Bottom line: I've been offered more than you paid for your boat. Nuf
said.


C'mon, Maxi. If some whacko offers you 15-25K above market it's rare
and you know it. You're not going to be able to get 60K for the
Seasprite based on some previous offer. True values are usually well
below 45K for ANY Seasprite and no one pays much for 2nd hand
electronics these days.
Now get over yourself!

Maxi...if you ever get down this way come for a sail. The 35s5 is a
blast and there's good company (I mean Suzanne and Thomas of course.)

RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
Bottom line: I've been offered more than you paid for your boat. Nuf
said.



Dude, if someone offered anywhere near 60K for your boat and you didn't
take it, that is a sad sad story. You must know that such a price would
be far above average even for a S34 in show condition. You can have a
lot of nicer boats than yours for that kind of money.

I've rejected over $70k for it--twice. I paid more than you paid for yours
for it. BUC prices and your value formulas are irrelavant when pricing such
boats. The market controls the price paid for such boats, and around here
there is high demand for traditional, good-looking boats, and a virtually
non-existent supply. The fact that mine is a pristine factory boat with
every conceivable upgrade and addition only makes it more desirable. The
survey we commissioned when we bought it specifies a new-boat replacement
cost in excess of $200K.

-your boat won't win any beauty contests

In most aspects of more classical boat design, you're mostly right. But
we do get a lot of compliments. I myself prefer the looks of most older
boats, so the 35s5 is a compromise in that respect. On the other hand
her hull is nicely shaped and her cabin trunk tapered and unique.
Compared to most other "modern" designs she has an interesting look
that most find attractive.

Is that what people tell you: "my that's an . . . interesting-looking
boat"?

Even more striking perhaps were the later
versions with UFO ports and I don't find that unatractive either. My
idea of a beautiful boat currently in production....Robin Hood
(formerly the Cape Dory 36), Alerion 37 Yawl (maybe these aren't built
now) and some of those Marshall cats....but as for modern boats most
prefer my 35s5 over any modern Catalina, Pearson, Beneteau Oceanus,
Hunter, Express, J Boat and so on.
But no matter. The great thing about boats is that they need only be
beautiful in the eyes of their masters. The boat who is beautiful to
everyone is the most generic.

The people who compliment our boat are generally those with better, more
attractive boats of their own, such as similar CCA-type boats, Grand Banks
trawlers, or high-end boats such as Swans and Aldens. Most Hunter and
Catalina owners just stare at it, clueless, wondering what it is.

Max

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...

Bottom line: I've been offered more than you paid for your boat. Nuf
said.


C'mon, Maxi. If some whacko offers you 15-25K above market it's rare
and you know it.

Open your eyes, Bubbles. "Market" varies from locale to locale. As you
pointed out, there are lots of such boats where you are. Here there are
almost none, and the demand for them is high. Brokers leave their cards
under my dodger, with a note stating that they have buyers for my boat.

You're not going to be able to get 60K for the
Seasprite based on some previous offer. True values are usually well
below 45K for ANY Seasprite and no one pays much for 2nd hand
electronics these days.
Now get over yourself!

We have another SS34 in our port, an owner-finished one, albeit a beautiful
job inside and out, at the marina next door. The guy paid $66K for it in
Maine, and I think he got a bargain. So does he. His is a masthead cutter
rig with a bowsprit that really doesn't look right on a CCA-type boat, but
it is functional and sails well. His equipment is minimal, but in good
condition.

Max

Open your eyes, Bubbles. "Market" varies from locale to locale. As
you
pointed out, there are lots of such boats where you are. Here there
are
almost none, and the demand for them is high.


Maxi, you can tell all the stories you want, but your boat does not
cost more than mine and is unlikely to fetch more on the used market.
This is the first time anyone ever talked to me about a sailboat being
worth considerably more in one area near another. Any smart buyer
simply goes to where the better prices are and pays a bit more to ship
or sail home if he has time. I bought my 35s5 in Florida. My friend
bought his Tartan 37 in Maryland. Someone paid 77K for a 35s5 in Texas
last year. Does that mean 35s5's are worth that?
C'mon, Dude. No one is paying 60K for your boat. They can have a Cape
Dory 36 for that.


RB
35s5
NY

The people who compliment our boat are generally those with better,
more
attractive boats of their own, such as similar CCA-type boats, Grand
Banks
trawlers, or high-end boats such as Swans and Aldens. Most Hunter and
Catalina owners just stare at it, clueless, wondering what it is.


That's a sad statement for the sailors in your area. Most Catalin and
Hunter owners here already owned a boat like yours. In fact we have a
new Hunter 35 owner here who came out of a Alberg 35 Yawl (One of my
favorites). The young lady we sail with out of HYC restored a Pearson
Wanderer before buying a Catalina 32. Like me she has a new family and
wanted a superior platform to keep sailing. City Island and the whole
area is loaded with boats like yours and most people know what they
are.


RB
35s5
NY

I've rejected over $70k for it--twice.


Wow, dude. Now it's twice? You don't think that, days after you said
you had one offer, it sounds a bit suspect to change it to two?
The first season I had my C&C 32 a fellow stopped over. He loved C&C
boats and really liked Alien. He said he'd pay 35K for her in a
heartbeat. After my second season I let him know she was for sale..and
for less than 35K. Guess what? He didn't buy her.
You be sure to let us know when your boat sells for 70K plus...or
whatever, dude. Rock on.



RB
35s5
NY

It's the hottest selling
color ever. Just go to any boat show and start counting the green
hulls. It's
astounding! EVERYBODY wants green.


LOL! But in all seriousness, I'm not attempting to denegrate Maxi's
boat. It's a classic hull and I love that people continue to sail and
maintain them. Green is no longer as popular, but it works for that
boat.
Maxi says he paid more than 57K for his boat. Lordy! I hope not. Maybe
HE is the second offer!



RB
35s5
NY

"Maxprop" wrote in message
k.net...


-your boat won't win any beauty contests

In most aspects of more classical boat design, you're
mostly right. But
we do get a lot of compliments. I myself prefer the
looks of most older
boats, so the 35s5 is a compromise in that respect. On
the other hand
her hull is nicely shaped and her cabin trunk tapered
and unique.
Compared to most other "modern" designs she has an
interesting look
that most find attractive.

Is that what people tell you: "my that's an . . .
interesting-looking
boat"?



They say the same thing about a Mac26X.



--
Scotty
''One who never gets out of the Sound cannot, with
any degree of credibility, comment on the courage
of fellow sailors'' ....F.B.
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...

The people who compliment our boat are generally those with better,
more
attractive boats of their own, such as similar CCA-type boats, Grand
Banks
trawlers, or high-end boats such as Swans and Aldens. Most Hunter and
Catalina owners just stare at it, clueless, wondering what it is.


That's a sad statement for the sailors in your area. Most Catalin and
Hunter owners here already owned a boat like yours. In fact we have a
new Hunter 35 owner here who came out of a Alberg 35 Yawl (One of my
favorites). The young lady we sail with out of HYC restored a Pearson
Wanderer before buying a Catalina 32. Like me she has a new family and
wanted a superior platform to keep sailing. City Island and the whole
area is loaded with boats like yours and most people know what they
are.

What ever gave you the impression that your area was anything like mine?

Max

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...

I've rejected over $70k for it--twice.


Wow, dude. Now it's twice? You don't think that, days after you said
you had one offer, it sounds a bit suspect to change it to two?
The first season I had my C&C 32 a fellow stopped over. He loved C&C
boats and really liked Alien. He said he'd pay 35K for her in a
heartbeat. After my second season I let him know she was for sale..and
for less than 35K. Guess what? He didn't buy her.
You be sure to let us know when your boat sells for 70K plus...or
whatever, dude. Rock on.

I'll be sure to do that for ya, Bubbles. Not that you'll believe it. Not
that I care.

Max