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Today was one of those amazing sailing days! All day it was blistering
hot, too rough to mess about on board much. But a few friends wanted to
see the boat and so everyone showed up at 6:00. By then some wind had
kicked up and when we cleared the breakwater a cool breeze was on our
nose. 10-15 knots.....

http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/monday.jpg

We sailed under main for 2 hours, plenty of wind for it and then, at
the request of a 12 year old new sailor aboard, sailed under the Throgs
Neck and Whitestone bridges. It was a nice sail, but the cool air was
really unexpected. We had a pretty spectacular sunset and Thomas was
having a blast with everyone and showing off trying to pull lines. He's
really had a good time on board thus far and I think we're doing a
great job creating a positive association for him with sailing.
The boat is just amazing...we ran down every sailboat we saw, passing
everything from J24s, to a Pearson 39 and S2 of some type. No
matter....no hurry, but really enjoying sailing this boat which is so
quick and responsive. Suzanne LOVES it.

I see you all were online again while we sailed. Good work!

RB
35s5
NY

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Nutsy,

I envy you! Don't think the wind as high a you say, but no matter. You
had a breeze. Looks like a nice breeze for your Benny.

Nice to see a flat horizon and a honest gentle heel.

Ah yes; I remember well.




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

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In article , OzOne wrote:
On 31 Jul 2006 19:54:02 -0700, "Capt. Rob"
scribbled thusly:



Today was one of those amazing sailing days! All day it was blistering
hot, too rough to mess about on board much. But a few friends wanted to
see the boat and so everyone showed up at 6:00. By then some wind had
kicked up and when we cleared the breakwater a cool breeze was on our
nose. 10-15 knots.....

http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/monday.jpg



Bob, I do wish you'd remove those winch handles when they're not being
used.
I don't mind lines just tossed around a winch..it is the best way
IMHO.
I 'm not all that worried by a handle being left on a loaded winch
that may require adjusting, but a handle just sitting there on an
unused winch can be the cause of a serious injury.
Think about doing it a little differently.

Glad to see you're getting so much use from your boat...unfortunately
mine are gathering weed for a little longer.

The line around it is a mess... looks like there are two lines
actually. Not a good practice.

The line on the ring appears to be faked nicely, but has a knot that
shouldn't be on a safety line that needs to be deployed immediately.
It's not clear if it's actually attached to the boat.

Yet again the "responsible" adults are setting a bad example by not
wearing PFDs.
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Capt. JG @@
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The line around it is a mess... looks like there are two lines
actually. Not a good practice.

But does it matter?
The lines can be easilly tossed off the winch or overboard if needed
in a hurry.

Maybe, maybe knot. Depends on how they were wrapped, who wrapped them, and
how picks up which line first.


The line on the ring appears to be faked nicely, but has a knot that
shouldn't be on a safety line that needs to be deployed immediately.
It's not clear if it's actually attached to the boat.
The bowline you see is where it attaches from what I can see, and the
loops around the line will quickly drop off if need be.
Frankly, I don't attach ring lines to my yachts.
If the ring is needed, and it is evident that the MOB will get to it
before the line runs out, I'll take a turn around a winch or cleat.
However, if we're moving fast and the line will run out, I'd rather
just drop it and leave my MOB with the ring, then drag it around
behind me.
Of course another line may be require in that intance to circle the
MOB if pickup is going to be difficult.

Well, with the Lifesling, the bitter end is attached to the boat. It works
really well, and the ring and line rig isn't that much different from the
LS.


Yet again the "responsible" adults are setting a bad example by not
wearing PFDs.

Do you wear a PFD every time you sail on a 36' yacht in benign
conditions with plenty of able adults also onboard?
Way to anal for me I'm afraid.

In the SF bay, absolutely. It's the water temp that's the issue. Although
one can theoretically succumb to hypothermia in the Carib, it would take a
lot longer. Since I teach on the bay, we make it a requirement for a number
of reasons not the least of which is insurance. All the schools without
exception require students and charterers to wear PFDs while above deck.
Difficult to enforce if it's a charter, but if it becomes a habit, then it's
more likely to happen.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

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Comments on posts above:


Thom, winds reported at La Guardia were 11.5 at 5:51 and 15 at 6:51 pm.

The throw line has a couple of wraps around it and a twist, but it's
always possible for a passenger to panic and tangle a line. A bag for
the line might be safer.

Ozzy, you're right about the winch handles. As the sun set and I opened
the 110% we were cooking well enough and we had enough activity on deck
to make the handles a hazard. I haven't set up a place for the floating
handle to be stowed yet.

The genoa sheet and furling line are coiled around the winch. This is
common practice and they are a moment away from being ready to deploy
the headsail.


RB
35s5
NY

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Believe me, they tangle in bags too, particularly if just left and not
pulled and 'reloaded' regularly..easily forgotten, out of sight and
all that.


That's a good point as well. In any case, the 35s5 has a very secure
cockpit and wide decks all around. It's not easy to fall off the boat
in normal conditions and we don't go looking for trouble with Thomas
aboard.


RB
35s5
NY

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Nutsy,

You should be able to read the local winds by just looking at the water
surface. It is the Sailor's Way. The 15 knt is mid force 4 the 11.5 is
still force 3. Upper force 3 you should be seeing white caps starting to
show. Your picture doesn't show white caps but it does show wavelets. A
Sailor would know that you were sailing in Force3 at the present time
the picture was taken.

It really doesn't make a difference, just trying to help a little. Looks
like a Ball was being had by all.

Nutsy, when I was just dinking around and seen the wind building, I'd
roll the headsail to about 80% and add twist to the main to keep
"Pneuma" acting like a Lady.

My buddy with the 35.5 Benny would do the same with his main. He'd put
enough twist until the Main was just about luffing at the head. The
Racing Fraternity would ask why he didn't reef, He'd say if it get any
worst he would. He'd watch the heel meter.

Nutsy, my sailing information for today, take or ****can it. Up to you.

Happy sailing

OT




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My buddy with the 35.5 Benny would do the same with his main. He'd put

enough twist until the Main was just about luffing at the head. The
Racing Fraternity would ask why he didn't reef, He'd say if it get any

worst he would. He'd watch the heel meter.


Nutsy, my sailing information for today, take or ****can it. Up to you.



Good info, Thom. On a very close reach, twist the main to spill the top
3rd...pretty much what we were doing with just the main up as we made
our way towards the bridges. We stayed heeled to about 10 degrees and
made good progress at about 5.5-6 knots. It's really bad trim after a
fashion, but my racing buddies call any depowering bad trim!
Later on we popped the 110% which was close to a dead run home. I
didn't like it so I went for a series of broad reaches instead. Dead
downwind "feels" like the weekspot for this boat, especially without a
chute or poled out 150%. The wing just works against us at that point.


RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt" Rob wrote:
.... my racing buddies call any depowering bad trim!

1- very strongly doubt there is any truth to this statement

2- if there is, then Bubbles' "racing buddies" are almost as
stupid & incompetent as he is.

Any sailor who is awake during a race... or at least, a race
with good wind... realizes that overpowered is slow.

Depowering a boat while inducing as little drag as possible
is one of the key skills of racing... I'd say, of sailing
well at all, regardless of racing or daysailing or cruising.



..... Dead
downwind "feels" like the weekspot for this boat, especially without a
chute or poled out 150%.

Says the man who has never flown a spinnaker.

.... The wing just works against us at that point.


Could you explain what this means, technically?

Bubbles, you're nuts.

DSK

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.... my racing buddies call any depowering bad trim!


1- very strongly doubt there is any truth to this statement

2- if there is, then Bubbles' "racing buddies" are almost as
stupid & incompetent as he is.



Poor Doug. My racing buddies with their 1st Series Beneteau's,
Catalinas, J-Boats and C&Cs have something he'll never have.
A sense of humor. Anyone else would have known that a comment like that
is humorous, but NOT Doug!
Bravo...now kill the light, Hymie!



.... The wing just works against us at that point.


Could you explain what this means, technically?


Our wing has 19% more wetted surface than the standard 6 foot keel.
It's also less hydrodynamic dead downwind. Some 35s5's owners have
fared the wing to improve this weakness with good results. I can give
you a link to one owner who's done that and is winning some big races.
He's also listed on the North Sails website.
Why don't YOU explain to everyone why a wing can cause problems
downwind...there are 3 major reasons. Let's see you list them.


RB
35s5
NY