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Frank Boettcher wrote:
Nothing is out of the question, however, still leaning toward a Precision 23 or 21. And I'm not trying to talk you out of that, just pointing out other options. They're certainly among the best built boats in that size/type category. ... Like the idea of encased lead ballast (however, not the idea of towing it around). Me too. The thought of buying a bigger tow vehicle & paying for the gas to drive it around really made me think about ways around the problem. Spent a lot of time on the trailer sailor forums (lot of helpful people there) asking questions and getting opinions and ideas. Yep. I was a regular there for years, IMHO it's changed a bit for the worse since it became a for-profit site. Still one of the best laces to check in to find out about specific boats. ... Came to the conclusion that a P-23 or anything in its class is more of a "launch, arrange for some temp dockage and leave it in an area that you can come back to for a number of weeks at a time or the good part of a season" Or launch, sail for a week or so then pull it but leave it in the area, dry. It is not a drive to the lake, go through the trouble of launching and retrieving for a couple of hours sailing. Agreed... and this can be a nice way to use the boat, particularly if you already have the locations. OTOH it leaves you with more of the worst of both worlds... you still have to do trailer maintenance, the boat is far from home much of the time instead of in the driveway, it needs anitfoulding & zincs etc etc. I've also looked with interest at Seaward 26RK (interesting keel config, but a might too heavy to be hauling around. Also somewhat pricey) IMHO the Seaward line is not as well built as they like to pretend, and they employ the most mendacious salespeople I have seen outside a used car lot. I tend to not like the cutesy faux-Cape Cod styling melded to modern (sort-of) hulls & rigs; they cut a lot of corners. Do yourself a favor and spend an hour or so looking over (and/or sailing) a Seaward and then the same on a comparable model Precision. .... and several used Starwinds. Bsically the same boat as the Precision line. P-23 with a 231 (210 with spinaker) PHRF is a fair performer, for its size, relatively speaking. Relatively... my only aspersion on the Precisions is that they look fast but are only slightly above average performance... and that only when compared to the mass-market boats. There are a lot of boats in the size range that will sail rings around them, and not give up much (if anything) in the way of comfort or structure. Might be harder to find though. Have you checked out a Beneteau 235 or 211? I happen to like the flush-deck 21 footer and it's surprisingly roomy inside. ... It is also the most stable, and probably the best built of those that I've researched. Walking on the cabin trunk roof and foredeck had the same solid feel as my Columbia 8.7 and far less deflection than my Columbia 24 challenger. Right on- they are quite well built & solid. Been on the back burner lately, been drawing up plans to double the size of my wood shop. I'm afraid if I buy a boat now, I'll fall all over it fitting it out and lose focus on the shop. And what would be bad about that? ... And I need the shop to support some part time work. Oh Is this the "semi" part of semi-retirement? I find it much more lucrative to keep punching the clock for the same people I worked for before, only less often for more money. I got an offer to work on somebody's boat (a similar project to one I completed on ours) and ended up agreeing with the owner that he really couldn't afford me. ... But if the right deal came along...... The "deal of a lifetime" comes around about once a week. I'm keeping my eyes peeled! DSK |
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