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That's my good friend at the wheel. He used to own a Cape Dory Typhoon, but is boatless until he moves out of the city. His wife is on the left swapping lifejackets on the kids. Suzanne is on the right. We're only under main, just after a tack...and about an hour before the sail tossed a baton somehow! I now have pics of the 35s5 taken from my dinghy with Suzanne sailing and also shots of me at the wheel, but you'll have to wait until the 35s5 webpage is done! Should be in about a week. I need more shots to finish. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/imag...sundayweby.jpg That's my good friend at the wheel. He used to own a Cape Dory Typhoon, but is boatless until he moves out of the city. His wife is on the left swapping lifejackets on the kids. Suzanne is on the right. We're only under main, just after a tack...and about an hour before the sail tossed a baton somehow! I now have pics of the 35s5 taken from my dinghy with Suzanne sailing and also shots of me at the wheel, but you'll have to wait until the 35s5 webpage is done! Should be in about a week. I need more shots to finish. RB 35s5 NY Twirlers toss batons. Your sails toss battens. http://www.nsula.edu/demonband/_p/twirlers/Ashley.jpg |
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Bob Crantz wrote: "Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/imag...sundayweby.jpg That's my good friend at the wheel. He used to own a Cape Dory Typhoon, but is boatless until he moves out of the city. His wife is on the left swapping lifejackets on the kids. Suzanne is on the right. We're only under main, just after a tack...and about an hour before the sail tossed a baton somehow! I now have pics of the 35s5 taken from my dinghy with Suzanne sailing and also shots of me at the wheel, but you'll have to wait until the 35s5 webpage is done! Should be in about a week. I need more shots to finish. RB 35s5 NY Baton ******* are nice....... Joe Twirlers toss batons. Your sails toss battens. http://www.nsula.edu/demonband/_p/twirlers/Ashley.jpg |
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Looks like the law is being broken to me. The kids are not wearing PFDs,
which is required by state law in most states. "Swapping" lifejackets should have been done below decks. http://www.boatus.com/foundation/LJL...quirements.asp -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bob Crantz" wrote in message . .. "Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/imag...sundayweby.jpg That's my good friend at the wheel. He used to own a Cape Dory Typhoon, but is boatless until he moves out of the city. His wife is on the left swapping lifejackets on the kids. Suzanne is on the right. We're only under main, just after a tack...and about an hour before the sail tossed a baton somehow! I now have pics of the 35s5 taken from my dinghy with Suzanne sailing and also shots of me at the wheel, but you'll have to wait until the 35s5 webpage is done! Should be in about a week. I need more shots to finish. RB 35s5 NY Twirlers toss batons. Your sails toss battens. http://www.nsula.edu/demonband/_p/twirlers/Ashley.jpg |
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You are breaking the law!
Your photo is the evidence. Child services should be notified! State: New York What age must wear PFD: Under age 12. Vessel Length: See PFD Types. When PFD Must be Worn: Must be worn while vessel is underway. Approved PFD Styles: L.O.A UP TO 40 FEET: Type I or II when operating on Great Lakes and oceans; I, II, or III when operating on inland waters other than Lake Erie or Lake Ontario. LOA 40-65 FEET: All USCG Approved. Exceptions when PFD does not need to be worn: When in a fully enclosed cabin. A Coast Guard proposal that would require all youngsters under age 13 to wear a life jacket when on the deck of a boat underway -- except in those states that already have a children's life jacket law -- was the subject of a Congressional hearing in mid-May. Testifying before the House Coast Guard and Maritime Subcommittee, BoatU.S. Government Affairs Vice President, Michael Sciulla, pointed out that while boaters are encouraged to wear life jackets when appropriate, this proposed new requirement would not necessarily save many lives. "When you investigate and analyze the actual boating accident reports it turns out that of the 31 children under age 13 who drowned in a boating accident in 1999, 18 of the 31 were from states that already require children to wear a life jacket, eight were already wearing a life jacket but perished, two died while the boat was at anchor and three were swimming, not boating, accidents," he said. An average of 13 children died in each of the three years 1996-1998. "Without a concomitant increase in funding for law enforcement at the state level and a commitment by the Coast Guard to dedicate more manpower to its modest boating safety efforts on the navigable waters of the U.S., we are unconvinced that the federal government is in a position to dictate to the states on this issue," Sciulla said. Effective December 23, 2002, in states where no children's life jacket law is in place, a new U.S. Coast Guard interim rule will require children under 13 on moving boats to wear a U.S. Coast Guard approved life jacket that fits. Fifteen states will be affected by the rule. This new rule does not change or supercede the existing law in states which have life jacket laws, it only applies to states which had no laws. Please see the list below for the latest laws in your state. Please note that these laws provide boaters with the minimum age that a child is required to wear a life jacket. It is still a parent's responsibility to decide if a child should wear a life jacket, even in situations where the law does not require it. |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message How can I be breaking the law? I'm not the owner of a 35s5, remember... or a kia! ? I'm not in the pic either. Thomas does like to wear his Spongebob lifejacket now. It doesn't appear that way.... no child of that age should be allowed access to the cockpit without a life jacket on. Of course the parents are certainly setting a proper example by not wearing theirs either. Never mind there isn't a lifejacket in view!!! It amazes me that you dare lament the consumption of a beer while underway... but allow numerous toddlers access to a cockpit with no life jackets and no fishnet guard along the lifelines! Compound that with the very basic required by law... life saving gear.. no line attached to the ring buoy, no lifesling, no MOB pole. You shouldn't even be allowed to be on the water. Tell us how you would undertake an MOB recovery without the gear to do it? It takes no time at all for one of such a young age to scramble over the edge in an effort to regain a toy or hat knocked off the vessel by a breeze. You Sir... should be reported!!! CM |
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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message news:ba9qg.113115$S61.32680@edtnps90... "Capt. Rob" wrote in message How can I be breaking the law? I'm not the owner of a 35s5, remember... or a kia! ? I'm not in the pic either. Thomas does like to wear his Spongebob lifejacket now. It doesn't appear that way.... no child of that age should be allowed access to the cockpit without a life jacket on. Of course the parents are certainly setting a proper example by not wearing theirs either. Never mind there isn't a lifejacket in view!!! It amazes me that you dare lament the consumption of a beer while underway... but allow numerous toddlers access to a cockpit with no life jackets and no fishnet guard along the lifelines! Compound that with the very basic required by law... life saving gear.. no line attached to the ring buoy, no lifesling, no MOB pole. You shouldn't even be allowed to be on the water. Tell us how you would undertake an MOB recovery without the gear to do it? It takes no time at all for one of such a young age to scramble over the edge in an effort to regain a toy or hat knocked off the vessel by a breeze. You Sir... should be reported!!! CM I'm sure a copy of that photo and all the relevant information are on there way to the USCG, child protective services and the management of the yacht club. Pictures don't lie! Why does he have a stinking life ring when a horseshoe is far superior and will fit members of his large girth social enclave? Pictures don't lie! Toddlers + open transom sailboat + sudden storms + no life jacket = negligent homicide! Save the children! Pictures don't lie! |
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Capt. Rob wrote: You are breaking the law! Your photo is the evidence. Child services should be notified! How can I be breaking the law? I'm not the owner of a 35s5, remember... or a kia! ? I'm not in the pic either. Thomas does like to wear his Spongebob lifejacket now. RB 35s5 NY How come that one lady is wearing drapery ? Joe |
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Toddlers + open transom sailboat + sudden storms + no life jacket = negligent homicide! Wow, first I don't own a 35s5 and now it's an open transom sailboat!!!! Wowee zowee! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! RB 35s5 NY |
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The glaring truth is you've placed your child in danger and are totally
oblivious of basic, common sense safety protocols underway! The cockpit of that vessel is totally devoid of safety gear! The photo flies in the face of your claims to sailing safety and seamanship! The only "safety" item is an untethered, solid doughnut of plastic that would be useless in an emergency!! You are a dock-side diva of ignorance!! Shame on You!! CM- "Capt. Rob" wrote in message ups.com... Toddlers + open transom sailboat + sudden storms + no life jacket = negligent homicide! Wow, first I don't own a 35s5 and now it's an open transom sailboat!!!! Wowee zowee! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message news:xWfqg.130541$771.119617@edtnps89... The glaring truth is you've placed your child in danger and are totally oblivious of basic, common sense safety protocols underway! Sailing, ... like life itself, is about having fun!! The cockpit of that vessel is totally devoid of safety gear! So what? The photo flies in the face of your claims to sailing safety and seamanship! Safety and seamanship are two completely different things. The only "safety" item is an untethered, solid doughnut of plastic that would be useless in an emergency!! What emergency???? He's only 500 yards from the marina entrance! Regards Donal -- |
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What emergency???? He's only 500 yards from the marina entrance! Yup...in fact Hart Island is to starboard. I could almost throw Thomas to dry land! Poor Mooron, even pics frighten him! RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... What emergency???? He's only 500 yards from the marina entrance! Yup...in fact Hart Island is to starboard. I could almost throw Thomas to dry land! Poor Mooron, even pics frighten him! Mooron should become traffic warden. I.m sure that he would draw great satisfaction from the fact that he was earning commission whilst saving the rest of us from the dangers of traffic congestion. Regards Donal -- |
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Donal wrote: "Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... What emergency???? He's only 500 yards from the marina entrance! Yup...in fact Hart Island is to starboard. I could almost throw Thomas to dry land! Poor Mooron, even pics frighten him! Mooron should become traffic warden. I.m sure that he would draw great satisfaction from the fact that he was earning commission whilst saving the rest of us from the dangers of traffic congestion. Regards Donal -- Let be the first to wish you a happy 4th of July Donal. You get off for the day? Joe |
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"Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Donal wrote: "Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... What emergency???? He's only 500 yards from the marina entrance! Yup...in fact Hart Island is to starboard. I could almost throw Thomas to dry land! Poor Mooron, even pics frighten him! Mooron should become traffic warden. I.m sure that he would draw great satisfaction from the fact that he was earning commission whilst saving the rest of us from the dangers of traffic congestion. Regards Donal -- Let be the first to wish you a happy 4th of July Donal. You get off for the day? What's so special about the 4th of July? Is that the day that you celebrate your recent military victories?? Regards Donal -- |
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Bob,
An approved, legal Life Jacket on every child under 13 should do it. A life jacket Coast Guard approved on a kid under 13, in 90 degree heat should make sailing a PITA for Kids. Should make them hate any kind of boating. Less boaters===easy life for the Coasties. Go watch the "Weekly Beer Can" races and count the crews with and without Life Jackets. Check American Cup Crews, how many wear Life Jackets? Even Coast Guard Crews in plus 90 degrees weather. Hell, a man going up a mast to make repairs is a hazard wearing a LJ. I'm not damning Life jackets; I am damning stupid Laws that are written without making good sense. Written without any real thought of being enforced. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage http://community.webtv.net/tassail/Pneuma http://community.webtv.net/tassail/HTMLTutoralPractise |
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I'm not damning Life jackets; I am damning stupid Laws that are written without making good sense. Written without any real thought of being enforced. Of course, Thom, and the heat is a real factor just as important as any other. Thomas will wear his harness in quiet conditions and NO LIFEJACKET if Suzanne or I are with him on very hot days. He can't fall off the boat with the harness and he could be hurt by the heat with a jacket on, no doubt. We know someone that this happened to and Suzanne says children are at a very high risk for heat stroke. For Mooron and Bob to suggest a child needs to wear a PFD at all times...it's not only ignorant, we've never observed anyone who does that. It's just not possible, let alone smart. But even on a hot day, if the boat is moving and has us working, he'll need to wear the PFD. I have spoken to a LOT of parents about this and in severe heat the PFD presents it's own dangers, which we'll limit with good hydration for starters. The other thing we're being careful with is sun exposure. We're trying to sail early in the day or in the early evening. Until Thomas is older, we're making sailing the most positive experience possible for him. So far, so good! RB 35s5 NY |
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A legal PFD is required to be worn by children by state law whenever the child is above-decks. Adults are not required to wear them, although it's a good idea. Obviously, there are circumstances when wearing a PFD is a greater hazard than not wearing them, but I would guess this is pretty rare for a child, and I seriously doubt anyone would be cited in such a circumstance. Obviously, climbing a mast it would be a hazard, but this is not something a four-year old would be doing. I'm hard-pressed to think of a situation where it would be more of a hazard than not for a small child, however. There are several models of jacket which are legal for both children and adults that work well in hot weather. It isn't up to the child to determine when or when not to wear a PFD. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Bob, An approved, legal Life Jacket on every child under 13 should do it. A life jacket Coast Guard approved on a kid under 13, in 90 degree heat should make sailing a PITA for Kids. Should make them hate any kind of boating. Less boaters===easy life for the Coasties. Go watch the "Weekly Beer Can" races and count the crews with and without Life Jackets. Check American Cup Crews, how many wear Life Jackets? Even Coast Guard Crews in plus 90 degrees weather. Hell, a man going up a mast to make repairs is a hazard wearing a LJ. I'm not damning Life jackets; I am damning stupid Laws that are written without making good sense. Written without any real thought of being enforced. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage http://community.webtv.net/tassail/Pneuma http://community.webtv.net/tassail/HTMLTutoralPractise |
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Capt. JG wrote: Thom, A legal PFD is required to be worn by children by state law whenever the child is above-decks. Adults are not required to wear them, although it's a good idea. Obviously, there are circumstances when wearing a PFD is a greater hazard than not wearing them, but I would guess this is pretty rare for a child, and I seriously doubt anyone would be cited in such a circumstance. Obviously, climbing a mast it would be a hazard, but this is not something a four-year old would be doing. I'm hard-pressed to think of a situation where it would be more of a hazard than not for a small child, however. There are several models of jacket which are legal for both children and adults that work well in hot weather. It isn't up to the child to determine when or when not to wear a PFD. Robert is just making excuses. The kids rule on Roberts watch, they scream it's hot, and un-confortable, that spongebob sucks and they throw a fit and toss the PFD's on deck. Hot...Bull****. We grew up on the waters from as early as I can remember, and it's a hell of a lot hotter here, and we had to wear lifejackets (those bright orange mae west types) As we became better swimmers we were allowed to use ski belts while sking. You just did it, and you did not dare to take them off. Seems Robert knows nothing about being a real Capt, or Father. Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Bob, An approved, legal Life Jacket on every child under 13 should do it. A life jacket Coast Guard approved on a kid under 13, in 90 degree heat should make sailing a PITA for Kids. Should make them hate any kind of boating. Less boaters===easy life for the Coasties. Go watch the "Weekly Beer Can" races and count the crews with and without Life Jackets. Check American Cup Crews, how many wear Life Jackets? Even Coast Guard Crews in plus 90 degrees weather. Hell, a man going up a mast to make repairs is a hazard wearing a LJ. I'm not damning Life jackets; I am damning stupid Laws that are written without making good sense. Written without any real thought of being enforced. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage http://community.webtv.net/tassail/Pneuma http://community.webtv.net/tassail/HTMLTutoralPractise |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message ps.com... says children are at a very high risk for heat stroke. For Mooron and Bob to suggest a child needs to wear a PFD at all times...it's not only ignorant, we've never observed anyone who does that. It's just not possible, let alone smart. Next you'll be saying child seats and seatbelts are optional. So now you have admitted several times that it is your practice for your kid not to wear a lifevest. If kids are at risk for heat stroke for wearing a safety device then don't take them sailing. You always have the option of leaving them home. Or below deck. You are a monster for putting your kid at risk. If anything did happen would you be able to live with the guilt? Don't force the kid into dangerous situations. Leave him ashore. |
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If kids are at risk for heat stroke for wearing a safety device then
don't take them sailing. You always have the option of leaving them home. Or below deck. Utter nonsense. Taking even a short cruise means weather presents certain risks ALWAYS. A wise parent doesn't mindlessly follow rules that could prove to be dangerous in certain situations. You are not only not a boater, but clearly not an educated parent. You are a monster for putting your kid at risk. YOU are the monster for suggesting a child should be put at risk for heat stroke and even death by wearing a lifejacket at times when it's not needed. A wise parent looks at ALL the conditions and makes a judgement. Your advice is both robotic and mindless. If anything did happen would you be able to live with the guilt? Anytime you step into a car, boat or even outside your door there is a risk...and few as great as putting a child in car. Unlike you Thomas will grow up to be a man. We'll protect him as we see fit, not based on some mantra chanted by followers. Bob, me thinks it's a good thing you never procreated. Don't force the kid into dangerous situations. Leave him ashore. Yep, I know a few people like you. They have no problem putting their children into a car and yet wonder if Thomas is in serious danger aboard a sailboat. What awful cowards such as Bob exist in our time...and they only wish to make more cowards of the youth around them. In it's own way it's an inate jealousy, though not one that I can understand. The worst kind of coward is the type who wants everyone to share his fears. I'm glad Thomas is not exposed to anyone like you. Even for a troll, your post exposes a lot about you...and I'm surprised you made such a post. RB 35s5 NY |
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Also, they make small auto-inflatables, which would negate any
"heat-related" concerns. http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...allpartial/0/0 -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Capt. JG wrote: Thom, A legal PFD is required to be worn by children by state law whenever the child is above-decks. Adults are not required to wear them, although it's a good idea. Obviously, there are circumstances when wearing a PFD is a greater hazard than not wearing them, but I would guess this is pretty rare for a child, and I seriously doubt anyone would be cited in such a circumstance. Obviously, climbing a mast it would be a hazard, but this is not something a four-year old would be doing. I'm hard-pressed to think of a situation where it would be more of a hazard than not for a small child, however. There are several models of jacket which are legal for both children and adults that work well in hot weather. It isn't up to the child to determine when or when not to wear a PFD. Robert is just making excuses. The kids rule on Roberts watch, they scream it's hot, and un-confortable, that spongebob sucks and they throw a fit and toss the PFD's on deck. Hot...Bull****. We grew up on the waters from as early as I can remember, and it's a hell of a lot hotter here, and we had to wear lifejackets (those bright orange mae west types) As we became better swimmers we were allowed to use ski belts while sking. You just did it, and you did not dare to take them off. Seems Robert knows nothing about being a real Capt, or Father. Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Bob, An approved, legal Life Jacket on every child under 13 should do it. A life jacket Coast Guard approved on a kid under 13, in 90 degree heat should make sailing a PITA for Kids. Should make them hate any kind of boating. Less boaters===easy life for the Coasties. Go watch the "Weekly Beer Can" races and count the crews with and without Life Jackets. Check American Cup Crews, how many wear Life Jackets? Even Coast Guard Crews in plus 90 degrees weather. Hell, a man going up a mast to make repairs is a hazard wearing a LJ. I'm not damning Life jackets; I am damning stupid Laws that are written without making good sense. Written without any real thought of being enforced. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage http://community.webtv.net/tassail/Pneuma http://community.webtv.net/tassail/HTMLTutoralPractise |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message ups.com... If kids are at risk for heat stroke for wearing a safety device then don't take them sailing. You always have the option of leaving them home. Or below deck. Utter nonsense. Taking even a short cruise means weather presents certain risks ALWAYS. A wise parent doesn't mindlessly follow rules that could prove to be dangerous in certain situations. You are not only not a boater, but clearly not an educated parent. You are a monster for putting your kid at risk. YOU are the monster for suggesting a child should be put at risk for heat stroke and even death by wearing a lifejacket at times when it's not needed. A wise parent looks at ALL the conditions and makes a judgement. Your advice is both robotic and mindless. If anything did happen would you be able to live with the guilt? Anytime you step into a car, boat or even outside your door there is a risk...and few as great as putting a child in car. Unlike you Thomas will grow up to be a man. We'll protect him as we see fit, not based on some mantra chanted by followers. Bob, me thinks it's a good thing you never procreated. Don't force the kid into dangerous situations. Leave him ashore. Yep, I know a few people like you. They have no problem putting their children into a car and yet wonder if Thomas is in serious danger aboard a sailboat. What awful cowards such as Bob exist in our time...and they only wish to make more cowards of the youth around them. In it's own way it's an inate jealousy, though not one that I can understand. The worst kind of coward is the type who wants everyone to share his fears. I'm glad Thomas is not exposed to anyone like you. Even for a troll, your post exposes a lot about you...and I'm surprised you made such a post. I don't own a boat. I don't have kids. You let Thomas dictate what is right or wrong. What cars do you drive? hmmm? The highest crash rated tanks around - KIA and Tribeca. You, sir, are not only a hypocrite, but a coward of unequalled magnitude. Once again, you steam rolled yourself! Bwahahahahahaha!!!! |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Also, they make small auto-inflatables, which would negate any "heat-related" concerns. But it doesn't have "Sponge Bob" on it. Funny isn't it? Bob sponging off his and Suzettes family. Sponge Bob, sponge. |
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Once again, you steam rolled yourself! Uh, Bob. That was really sad. You failed to make any points. RB 35s5 NY |
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Also, they make small auto-inflatables, which would negate any
"heat-related" concerns. http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1... We have one of these for Thomas. So? RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Thom, A legal PFD is required to be worn by children by state law whenever the child is above-decks. Yeah, it's a shame that we need such laws because of a few neglectful parents such as boobspit. SBV |
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"Scotty" wrote in message Yeah, it's a shame that we need such laws because of a few homicidal parents such as boobspit. SBV |
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"Bob Crantz" wrote Yeah, it's a shame that we need such laws because of a few homosexual parents such as boobspit. |
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Capt. Rob wrote: Also, they make small auto-inflatables, which would negate any "heat-related" concerns. http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1... We have one of these for Thomas. So? So.....maybe you should use it, instead of letting it rott in the locker below. Capt. Joe RB 35s5 NY |
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Why even my dogs wear a PFD aboard.... Bobsprit is merely an unfit parent!
He can't swim and claims flippers as a recovery system!! I have MOB poles, two properly equipped MOB devices plus a .12 gauge line launcher, drogue, sea anchor, all PFDs have immersion activated strobes. My life Sling alone is better than what Bobsprit doesn't have. MOB drills are ongoing and practised. Safety on a vessel isn't by chance... it's by design. It's more than obvious that RB hasn't a clue about sailing or safety. ...and Thom... you should be ashamed of yourself... taking up sides with RB's descion.... an adult making a decsion regarding a PFD is one thing... but backing an adult who can't control his own child and insist that basic safety protocols are followed is quite another. I could swim at 13 months of age.... little Thomas cannot swim a stroke. You once described cold water as "it should be treated like acid"... yet you condone Bobsprit to allow his son who can't swim to elect weather he wears a PFD?? Last time I checked.... children followed the direction of their parents... and in Bosprit's case ... Thomas is imitating the total disregard for safety exemplified by his parents!! Yet he's doing so without the benefit of parents that are experienced and capable of handling an MOB situation. That alone qualifies what RB is doing as totally WRONG!!! In one way you are right Thom.... but times have changed... while we learned from Masters... RB learns from books and has little experience... please do not feed his need for gratification... since he has not earned it like we have. CM "Bob Crantz" wrote in message . .. "Scotty" wrote in message Yeah, it's a shame that we need such laws because of a few homicidal parents such as boobspit. SBV |
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"Bob Crantz" wrote: Twirlers toss batons. Your sails toss battens. http://www.nsula.edu/demonband/_p/twirlers/Ashley.jpg Ah, reminds me of my abusive past. ;-) My mother made me take private lessons when I was young. LP |
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"Joe" wrote: How come that one lady is wearing drapery ? Breastfeeding her child, Joe. Something I'm sure you wouldn't know anything about, since you don't have children or didn't raise them. LP |
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"Capt.Mooron" wrote: Why even my dogs wear a PFD aboard.... Good thing your dog doesn't have to worry about tan lines! LP (likes to sail naked) |
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"Martin Baxter" wrote: "Capt.Mooron" wrote: In one way you are right Thom.... but times have changed... while we learned from Masters... RB learns from books No! No! No! Bob learns from films! You don't see Johnny Depp or any of his crew in a PFD do you? Brilliant observation, Marty! You don't need no stenkin' PDF in the Matrix. LP |
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Also, they make small auto-inflatables, which would negate any "heat-related" concerns. Wrong, Jonathan. This is a regular vest with an extra section for inflation that makes it behave like a type 2. It's damn hot to wear of course. RB 35s5 NY |
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Joe,
Seems Robert knows nothing about being a real Capt, or Father. I'm not sure I'd even want to agree with that statement; Picture be damned! There is a sailing oriented Mother for each kid in that picture. That picture shows that. Safety gear, Mob pole, Tied life Ring, Horse Bouy. All that **** creates a hazzard in its own right. Joe; I'm making the statement, here and now, that I consider those kids with a mother in attendence for each in that picture, is safer than any cockpit loaded with safety gear, life vests. Period! NO CG REG. Is worth a Damn without human evaluation. A kid wearing a LJ is never a safe as a Kid with a mother looking after it. I'm not taking sides between you & Nutsy. CG Reg at times do reach the Highs in Stupidity. Much to often! OT http://community.webtv.net/tassail/HTMLTutoralPractise |
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"Lady Pilot" wrote Ah, reminds me of my abusive past. ;-) My mother made me a hooker when I was young. LP |
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