Capt. JG wrote:
Thom,

A legal PFD is required to be worn by children by state law whenever the
child is above-decks. Adults are not required to wear them, although it's a
good idea. Obviously, there are circumstances when wearing a PFD is a
greater hazard than not wearing them, but I would guess this is pretty rare
for a child, and I seriously doubt anyone would be cited in such a
circumstance. Obviously, climbing a mast it would be a hazard, but this is
not something a four-year old would be doing. I'm hard-pressed to think of a
situation where it would be more of a hazard than not for a small child,
however. There are several models of jacket which are legal for both
children and adults that work well in hot weather. It isn't up to the child
to determine when or when not to wear a PFD.


Robert is just making excuses. The kids rule on Roberts watch, they
scream it's hot, and un-confortable, that spongebob sucks and they
throw a fit and toss the PFD's on deck.

Hot...Bull****. We grew up on the waters from as early as I can
remember, and it's a hell of a lot hotter here, and we had to wear
lifejackets (those bright orange mae west types) As we became better
swimmers we were allowed to use ski belts while sking. You just did it,
and you did not dare to take them off.

Seems Robert knows nothing about being a real Capt, or Father.

Joe




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"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
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Bob,

An approved, legal Life Jacket on every child under 13 should do it. A
life jacket Coast Guard approved on a kid under 13, in 90 degree heat
should make sailing a PITA for Kids. Should make them hate any kind of
boating. Less boaters===easy life for the Coasties.

Go watch the "Weekly Beer Can" races and count the crews with and
without Life Jackets. Check American Cup Crews, how many wear Life
Jackets? Even Coast Guard Crews in plus 90 degrees weather.

Hell, a man going up a mast to make repairs is a hazard wearing a LJ.

I'm not damning Life jackets; I am damning stupid Laws that are written
without making good sense. Written without any real thought of being
enforced.


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Also, they make small auto-inflatables, which would negate any
"heat-related" concerns.

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...allpartial/0/0


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"Joe" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:
Thom,

A legal PFD is required to be worn by children by state law whenever the
child is above-decks. Adults are not required to wear them, although it's
a
good idea. Obviously, there are circumstances when wearing a PFD is a
greater hazard than not wearing them, but I would guess this is pretty
rare
for a child, and I seriously doubt anyone would be cited in such a
circumstance. Obviously, climbing a mast it would be a hazard, but this
is
not something a four-year old would be doing. I'm hard-pressed to think
of a
situation where it would be more of a hazard than not for a small child,
however. There are several models of jacket which are legal for both
children and adults that work well in hot weather. It isn't up to the
child
to determine when or when not to wear a PFD.


Robert is just making excuses. The kids rule on Roberts watch, they
scream it's hot, and un-confortable, that spongebob sucks and they
throw a fit and toss the PFD's on deck.

Hot...Bull****. We grew up on the waters from as early as I can
remember, and it's a hell of a lot hotter here, and we had to wear
lifejackets (those bright orange mae west types) As we became better
swimmers we were allowed to use ski belts while sking. You just did it,
and you did not dare to take them off.

Seems Robert knows nothing about being a real Capt, or Father.

Joe




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"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Bob,

An approved, legal Life Jacket on every child under 13 should do it. A
life jacket Coast Guard approved on a kid under 13, in 90 degree heat
should make sailing a PITA for Kids. Should make them hate any kind of
boating. Less boaters===easy life for the Coasties.

Go watch the "Weekly Beer Can" races and count the crews with and
without Life Jackets. Check American Cup Crews, how many wear Life
Jackets? Even Coast Guard Crews in plus 90 degrees weather.

Hell, a man going up a mast to make repairs is a hazard wearing a LJ.

I'm not damning Life jackets; I am damning stupid Laws that are written
without making good sense. Written without any real thought of being
enforced.


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Also, they make small auto-inflatables, which would negate any
"heat-related" concerns.

But it doesn't have "Sponge Bob" on it.

Funny isn't it?

Bob sponging off his and Suzettes family.

Sponge Bob, sponge.

Also, they make small auto-inflatables, which would negate any
"heat-related" concerns.

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1...



We have one of these for Thomas. So?



RB
35s5
NY

Capt. Rob wrote:
Also, they make small auto-inflatables, which would negate any
"heat-related" concerns.

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1...



We have one of these for Thomas. So?



So.....maybe you should use it, instead of letting it rott in the
locker below.

Capt. Joe




RB
35s5
NY

Also, they make small auto-inflatables, which would negate any
"heat-related" concerns.


Wrong, Jonathan.
This is a regular vest with an extra section for inflation that makes
it behave like a type 2. It's damn hot to wear of course.



RB
35s5
NY

Joe,

Seems Robert knows nothing about being a real Capt, or Father.

I'm not sure I'd even want to agree with that statement; Picture be
damned!

There is a sailing oriented Mother for each kid in that picture. That
picture shows that. Safety gear, Mob pole, Tied life Ring, Horse Bouy.
All that **** creates a hazzard in its own right.

Joe; I'm making the statement, here and now, that I consider those kids
with a mother in attendence for each in that picture, is safer than any
cockpit loaded with safety gear, life vests. Period!

NO CG REG. Is worth a Damn without human evaluation. A kid wearing a LJ
is never a safe as a Kid with a mother looking after it.

I'm not taking sides between you & Nutsy.
CG Reg at times do reach the Highs in Stupidity. Much to often!

OT



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"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Joe,

Seems Robert knows nothing about being a real Capt, or Father.

I'm not sure I'd even want to agree with that statement; Picture be
damned!

There is a sailing oriented Mother for each kid in that picture. That
picture shows that. Safety gear, Mob pole, Tied life Ring, Horse Bouy.
All that **** creates a hazzard in its own right.

Joe; I'm making the statement, here and now, that I consider those kids
with a mother in attendence for each in that picture, is safer than any
cockpit loaded with safety gear, life vests. Period!

NO CG REG. Is worth a Damn without human evaluation. A kid wearing a LJ
is never a safe as a Kid with a mother looking after it.

I'm not taking sides between you & Nutsy.
CG Reg at times do reach the Highs in Stupidity. Much to often!

OT



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Mom makes them safe in the cockpit. What makes them safe while in the water?