Extremism is no vice!
 

By JENNIFER TALHELM

WASHINGTON Jun 23, 2006 (AP)- A Republican gubernatorial candidate's call
for creation of a forced labor camp for illegal immigrants drew rebukes
Friday from two GOP lawmakers, who labeled it a low point in the immigration
debate.

Don Goldwater, nephew of the late Sen. Barry Goldwater, caused an
international stir this week when EFE, a Mexican news service, quoted him as
saying he wanted to hold undocumented immigrants in camps to use them "as
labor in the construction of a wall and to clean the areas of the Arizona
desert that they're polluting."

The article described Goldwater's plan as a "concentration camp" for
migrants.

Goldwater, a candidate for governor in Arizona, said in a statement Friday
that his comments were taken out of context. He said he was calling for a
work program for convicted nonviolent felons, similar to "tried and tested,
effective and accepted practices" used by state and local jails.

But two Republicans, Arizona Sen. John McCain and Rep. Jim Kolbe, called
Goldwater's comments "deeply offensive" and asked state Republicans to
reject his candidacy in the Sept. 12 primary.

"That Mr. Goldwater is either unaware of or indifferent to the loaded
symbolism, injustice and un-Americanism of his 'plan' to address the many
serious issues caused by illegal immigration reveals his flaws as a
candidate and a stunning lack of respect for the basic values of a generous
and decent society," McCain said in a statement.

Kolbe said that if the comments are true, Goldwater "has demonstrated his
complete unworthiness for public office, and I am confident he will be
soundly rejected by Republicans from the party of Barry Goldwater, who
consistently demonstrated his compassion and respect for all people. This is
a sad day in the national debate on immigration policy."

McCain and Kolbe favor a guest-worker program for illegal immigrants.

Goldwater made a similar comment at an April anti-immigration rally.

"Build us that wall now!" Goldwater said, referring to a proposal to add 700
miles of fences along the U.S.-Mexico border. He promised then that if
elected, he would put illegal immigrants in a tent city on the border and
use their labor to build the wall.

AMEN!!!!

Extremism is no vice!
 

Bob Crantz wrote:
By JENNIFER TALHELM

WASHINGTON Jun 23, 2006 (AP)- A Republican gubernatorial candidate's call
for creation of a forced labor camp for illegal immigrants drew rebukes
Friday from two GOP lawmakers, who labeled it a low point in the immigration
debate.

Don Goldwater, nephew of the late Sen. Barry Goldwater, caused an
international stir this week when EFE, a Mexican news service, quoted him as
saying he wanted to hold undocumented immigrants in camps to use them "as
labor in the construction of a wall and to clean the areas of the Arizona
desert that they're polluting."

The article described Goldwater's plan as a "concentration camp" for
migrants.

Goldwater, a candidate for governor in Arizona, said in a statement Friday
that his comments were taken out of context. He said he was calling for a
work program for convicted nonviolent felons, similar to "tried and tested,
effective and accepted practices" used by state and local jails.

But two Republicans, Arizona Sen. John McCain and Rep. Jim Kolbe, called
Goldwater's comments "deeply offensive" and asked state Republicans to
reject his candidacy in the Sept. 12 primary.

"That Mr. Goldwater is either unaware of or indifferent to the loaded
symbolism, injustice and un-Americanism of his 'plan' to address the many
serious issues caused by illegal immigration reveals his flaws as a
candidate and a stunning lack of respect for the basic values of a generous
and decent society," McCain said in a statement.

Kolbe said that if the comments are true, Goldwater "has demonstrated his
complete unworthiness for public office, and I am confident he will be
soundly rejected by Republicans from the party of Barry Goldwater, who
consistently demonstrated his compassion and respect for all people. This is
a sad day in the national debate on immigration policy."

McCain and Kolbe favor a guest-worker program for illegal immigrants.

Goldwater made a similar comment at an April anti-immigration rally.

"Build us that wall now!" Goldwater said, referring to a proposal to add 700
miles of fences along the U.S.-Mexico border. He promised then that if
elected, he would put illegal immigrants in a tent city on the border and
use their labor to build the wall.

AMEN!!!!




I know what we can do with all these illegal immigrants! We can putt
hem to work on our farms for very low wages and fill an employ,ment gap
that exists because unemployed Americans won't do that kind of work....

Extremism is no vice!
 

OzOne wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 08:11:43 -0400, katy
scribbled thusly:

I know what we can do with all these illegal immigrants! We can putt
hem to work on our farms for very low wages and fill an employ,ment gap
that exists because unemployed Americans won't do that kind of work....

Isn't that what they're already doing?
Hell, in California, 90% of menial work appears to be done by
illegals.



Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

well, duh, OZ...it's a reply to a Crantz blurb...

Extremism is no vice!
 

OzOne wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 08:35:14 -0400, katy
scribbled thusly:
well, duh, OZ...it's a reply to a Crantz blurb...

Sorry, I only read 10% of what's here these days.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

I suppose I should have doen the emoticon thing, but I've never got into
that...

Extremism is no vice!
 

OzOne wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 08:11:43 -0400, katy
scribbled thusly:

I know what we can do with all these illegal immigrants! We can putt
hem to work on our farms for very low wages and fill an employ,ment gap
that exists because unemployed Americans won't do that kind of work....

Isn't that what they're already doing?
Hell, in California, 90% of menial work appears to be done by
illegals.


Oh...wan't the real numbers on illegal immigration

Info submitted to rebuke Sen. McCain's story about the Senate bill on
Amnesty and his statistics of how many American people are FOR this
bill. Feel free to forward this to as many friends and political
representatives as you wish.


2006 (First Quarter) INS/FBI Statistical Report on Undocumented
Immigration

62% of all "undocumented immigrants" in the United States are working
for cash and not paying taxes, predominantly illegal aliens, working
without a green card;

95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens;

83% of warrants for murder in Phoenix are for illegal aliens;

86% of warrants for murder in Albuquerque are for illegal aliens;

75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles, Phoenix, and
Albuquerque are illegal aliens;

More than 380,000 "anchor babies" were born in the United States in
2005 were to parents who are illegal aliens; making those 380,000
babies automatically U.S. Citizens. 97.2% of all costs incurred from
those births were paid by the American taxpayer;

More than 66% of all births in California are to illegal alien Mexicans
on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by taxpayers;

24.9% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican
nationals here illegally;

40.1% of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican nationals
here illegally;

48.2% of all inmates in New Mexico detention centers are Mexican
nationals here illegally;

29% (630,000) convicted illegal alien felons fill our state and federal
prisons at a cost of $1.6 billion annually;

More than 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in
garages;

More than 53% of all investigated burglaries reported in California,
New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and Texas are perpetrated by illegal
aliens;

More than half of all gang members in Los Angeles are illegal aliens
from south of the border;

More than 43% of all Food Stamps issued are to illegal aliens;

More than 41% of all unemployment checks issued in the United States
are to illegal aliens;

58% of all Welfare payments in the United States are issued to illegal
aliens;

Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties in the United States are
illegal aliens;

14 out of 31 TV stations in L. A. Are Spanish-only;

16 out of 28 TV stations in Phoenix are Spanish-only;

15 out of 24 TV stations in Albuquerque are Spanish-only;

21 radio stations in L. A. Are Spanish-only;

17 radio stations in Phoenix are Spanish-only;

17 radio stations in Albuquerque are Spanish-only;

More than 34% of Arizona students in grades 1-12 are illegal aliens;

More than 24% of Arizona students in grades 1-12 are
non-English-speaking;

More than 39% of California students in grades 1-12 are illegal aliens;


More than 42% of California students in grades 1-12 are
non-English-speaking;

In Los Angeles County, 5.1 million people speak English; 3.9 million
speak Spanish;

More than 71% of all apprehended cars stolen in 2005 in Texas, New
Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California were stolen by illegal aliens or
transport "coyotes";

47% of cited/stopped drivers in California have no license, no
insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 47%, 92% are
illegal aliens;

63% of cited/stopped drivers in Arizona have no license, no insurance
and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 63%, 97% are illegal
aliens;

66% of cited/stopped drivers in New Mexico have no license, no
insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 66%, 98% are
illegal aliens;

Less than 2% of illegal aliens in the United States are picking crops,
but 41% are on welfare;

Over 70% of the United States annual population growth (and over 90% of
California, Florida, and New York) results from immigration;

The cost of immigration to the American taxpayer in 1997 was a NET
(after subtracting taxes immigrants pay) $70 BILLION a year, [Professor
Donald Huddle, Rice University];

The estimated profit to U.S. Corporations and businesses employing
illegal aliens in 2005 was more than $2.36 TRILLION dollars;

The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the
average adult Mexican illegal alien is $55,000.00 cost to the American
taxpayer in a 5-year span.


Thats said..... I'm all for legal immigration.

Joe




Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Extremism is no vice!
 

Joe wrote:


Info submitted to rebuke Sen. McCain's story about the Senate bill on
Amnesty and his statistics of how many American people are FOR this
bill. Feel free to forward this to as many friends and political
representatives as you wish. I know most of these "facts" were actually
made up, but who cares?




So Joe, are you claiming that you found these on the Internet, so they
must be true? Didn't you even bother to read them? You're lucky we
don't have an gullibility test to maintain citizenship - you wouldn't
last 2 seconds.

Extremism is no vice!
 

Jeff wrote:
Joe wrote:


Info submitted to rebuke Sen. McCain's story about the Senate bill on
Amnesty and his statistics of how many American people are FOR this
bill. Feel free to forward this to as many friends and political
representatives as you wish. I know most of these "facts" were actually
made up, but who cares?




So Joe, are you claiming that you found these on the Internet, so they
must be true? Didn't you even bother to read them? You're lucky we
don't have an gullibility test to maintain citizenship - you wouldn't
last 2 seconds.

Guess it is bunk that in Texas, the $3.9 billion spent annually
educating the children of illegal immigrants could:

Cover more than the $2.3 billion shortfall identified by the Texas
Federation for Teachers for such things as textbooks and pension
contributions.
Make Texas' salaries for teachers more competitive by national
standards, thereby reducing costly attrition, and recruit the 5,000 new
teachers needed each year.

And thats just Texas...

Joe

Extremism is no vice!
 

Maybe we shouldn't let relatives run for public office
either...

Seahag
(I liked Ike)

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
. ..
By JENNIFER TALHELM

WASHINGTON Jun 23, 2006 (AP)- A Republican gubernatorial
candidate's call for creation of a forced labor camp for
illegal immigrants drew rebukes Friday from two GOP
lawmakers, who labeled it a low point in the immigration
debate.

Don Goldwater, nephew of the late Sen. Barry Goldwater,
caused an international stir this week when EFE, a Mexican
news service, quoted him as saying he wanted to hold
undocumented immigrants in camps to use them "as labor in
the construction of a wall and to clean the areas of the
Arizona desert that they're polluting."

The article described Goldwater's plan as a "concentration
camp" for migrants.

Goldwater, a candidate for governor in Arizona, said in a
statement Friday that his comments were taken out of
context. He said he was calling for a work program for
convicted nonviolent felons, similar to "tried and tested,
effective and accepted practices" used by state and local
jails.

But two Republicans, Arizona Sen. John McCain and Rep. Jim
Kolbe, called Goldwater's comments "deeply offensive" and
asked state Republicans to reject his candidacy in the
Sept. 12 primary.

"That Mr. Goldwater is either unaware of or indifferent to
the loaded symbolism, injustice and un-Americanism of his
'plan' to address the many serious issues caused by
illegal immigration reveals his flaws as a candidate and a
stunning lack of respect for the basic values of a
generous and decent society," McCain said in a statement.

Kolbe said that if the comments are true, Goldwater "has
demonstrated his complete unworthiness for public office,
and I am confident he will be soundly rejected by
Republicans from the party of Barry Goldwater, who
consistently demonstrated his compassion and respect for
all people. This is a sad day in the national debate on
immigration policy."

McCain and Kolbe favor a guest-worker program for illegal
immigrants.

Goldwater made a similar comment at an April
anti-immigration rally.

"Build us that wall now!" Goldwater said, referring to a
proposal to add 700 miles of fences along the U.S.-Mexico
border. He promised then that if elected, he would put
illegal immigrants in a tent city on the border and use
their labor to build the wall.

AMEN!!!!

Extremism is no vice!
 

"katy" wrote:
OzOne wrote:
katy scribbled thusly:
well, duh, OZ...it's a reply to a Crantz blurb...

Sorry, I only read 10% of what's here these days.


I suppose I should have doen the emoticon thing, but I've
never got into that...

Look what you have to look forward to!8^p~~~~

Extremism is no vice!
 

Seahag wrote:
"katy" wrote:
OzOne wrote:
katy scribbled thusly:
well, duh, OZ...it's a reply to a Crantz blurb...
Sorry, I only read 10% of what's here these days.

I suppose I should have doen the emoticon thing, but I've
never got into that...

Look what you have to look forward to!8^p~~~~


:P