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Thom Stewart June 6th 06 10:47 PM

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For those Bleeding Hearts, with the Big Mouths about Iraq Lose of Lives.

Today is a Time to remember what the Cost of Victory is and not just in
money. It was a very costly Battle in lives lost but people fought
knowing the risk of death was very high. They went willingly and Stopped
the Mad Men of the Nazi Germany.

God Bless You; "Gold Star Heroes!"

Ol Thom


Joe June 6th 06 11:08 PM

Bloody "D" Day Anniv.
 

Thom Stewart wrote:
For those Bleeding Hearts, with the Big Mouths about Iraq Lose of Lives.

Today is a Time to remember what the Cost of Victory is and not just in
money. It was a very costly Battle in lives lost but people fought
knowing the risk of death was very high. They went willingly and Stopped
the Mad Men of the Nazi Germany.

God Bless You; "Gold Star Heroes!"

Ol Thom


No doubt Ol Thom

Today ~ 1944 - In Operation Overlord, Allied invasion fleet (over 2700
ships and craft) land troops on Normandy beaches, the largest
amphibious landing in history.

The first use of floating tanks, Ducks, Mulberry harbors, and the
birth of the computor.
Can you imagine almost 3000 ships and boats in a 10 mile streach.

Have you ever been to Normandy Ol Thom? Seems you might have the cash
on hand to take a few nice vacations.

Joe


Ed Wood June 7th 06 03:11 AM

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America should have sided with the Nazis and crushed Russia.

Stalin was worse than Hitler.

Ed



Thom Stewart June 7th 06 03:50 AM

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Ed,

Sorry, a Rat Terrier just payed my Lap a visit and sent an incomplete
message.

Ed, at the deginning of the War Hitler & Stalin were on the same side.
It was Hitler that turn on Stalin. We had no choice. Hitler put Joe on
our side.

Message complete without "Jazz's" help.

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage


Jonathan Ganz June 7th 06 09:42 AM

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In article ,
Thom Stewart wrote:

For those Bleeding Hearts, with the Big Mouths about Iraq Lose of Lives.

Today is a Time to remember what the Cost of Victory is and not just in
money. It was a very costly Battle in lives lost but people fought
knowing the risk of death was very high. They went willingly and Stopped
the Mad Men of the Nazi Germany.

God Bless You; "Gold Star Heroes!"


Thom,

While I honor those who died in battle, I do not honor those who lied
to us about Iraq, which resulted in additional and needless deaths. If
that makes me a "bleeding hear," so be it.

--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com



Scotty June 7th 06 09:47 AM

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OzOne wrote in message news:

God Bless You; "Gold Star Heroes!"

Ol Thom


Yep, a war worth fighting....pity we don't have leaders

with brains
today.



And by 'we', you mean Australia, right?

Scotty



Scotty June 7th 06 09:51 AM

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article

,
Thom Stewart wrote:

For those Bleeding Hearts, with the Big Mouths about Iraq

Lose of Lives.

Today is a Time to remember what the Cost of Victory is

and not just in
money. It was a very costly Battle in lives lost but

people fought
knowing the risk of death was very high. They went

willingly and Stopped
the Mad Men of the Nazi Germany.

God Bless You; "Gold Star Heroes!"


Thom,

While I honor those who died in battle, I do not honor

those who lied
to us about Iraq, which resulted in additional and

needless deaths. If
that makes me a "bleeding hear," so be it.



a bleeding ear?



Capt. Rob June 7th 06 12:16 PM

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Thom Stewart wrote:
Sorry, a Rat just payed my Lap a visit




No, Scotty! Down, Scotty!!!




RB
35s5
NY


Maxprop June 7th 06 02:02 PM

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OzOne wrote in message ...
On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 14:47:46 -0700, (Thom Stewart)
scribbled thusly:


For those Bleeding Hearts, with the Big Mouths about Iraq Lose of Lives.

Today is a Time to remember what the Cost of Victory is and not just in
money. It was a very costly Battle in lives lost but people fought
knowing the risk of death was very high. They went willingly and Stopped
the Mad Men of the Nazi Germany.

God Bless You; "Gold Star Heroes!"

Ol Thom


Yep, a war worth fighting....pity we don't have leaders with brains
today.


We typically get the leaders we deserve.

Max



Ed Wood June 7th 06 02:23 PM

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"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Ed,

Sorry, a Rat Terrier just payed my Lap a visit and sent an incomplete
message.

Ed, at the deginning of the War Hitler & Stalin were on the same side.
It was Hitler that turn on Stalin. We had no choice. Hitler put Joe on
our side.

Message complete without "Jazz's" help.

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage


Thom, that says it all there. Hitler and Stalin were on the same side. They
were both our enemies. Why pick Stalin over Hitler?

Did you know France was the only country to lose twice in WWII?

We should have let Germany and Russia duke it out and then go in.

Ed



Bob Crantz June 7th 06 02:54 PM

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Just before Hitler killed himself he accepted Jesus into his heart and now
Hitler is in heaven.

Amen!



Thom Stewart June 7th 06 04:56 PM

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Max,

Oh, how true.

We typically get the leaders we deserve.
Max

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage


Scotty June 8th 06 12:19 AM

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OzOne wrote in message
...
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 04:47:06 -0400, "Scotty"


scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote in message news:

God Bless You; "Gold Star Heroes!"

Ol Thom

Yep, a war worth fighting....pity we don't have leaders

with brains
today.



And by 'we', you mean Australia, right?

Scotty


I mean we as in you guys and us.



And by ''us'', you mean Australia, right?

Scotty



Maxprop June 8th 06 01:55 AM

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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
. ..
Just before Hitler killed himself he accepted Jesus into his heart and now
Hitler is in heaven.


And I'm going to Hell.

What a fine kettle of fish . . .

Max



Scotty June 8th 06 02:28 AM

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OzOne wrote in message
...


And by 'we', you mean Australia, right?

Scotty


I mean we as in you guys and us.



And by ''us'', you mean Australia, right?

Scotty

Of course..we actually have a prime minister with brains,

unlike you,
but unfortunately he has failed to use them and got us

into the same
mess as yours has you.


Oh dear, Ozzy thinks we have a prime minister.

Scotty



Bob Crantz June 8th 06 04:00 AM

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Your Queen can and has removed your Prime Ministers.





katy June 8th 06 04:11 AM

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Bob Crantz wrote:
Your Queen can and has removed your Prime Ministers.




Very few people realize that the Queen actually has real power...they
think she is just a figurehead...I'm sure there are many in Britain who
would like her to be just a tourist attraction, but in reality, she is
empowered more so than most any other royal figure in Europe...

Capt.Mooron June 8th 06 11:32 AM

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OzOne wrote in message ...
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 21:00:24 -0600, "Bob Crantz"
scribbled thusly:

Your Queen can and has removed your Prime Ministers.



Nope, the Governor General has dismissed one government after that
govt lost the balance of power and was unable to govern yet refused to
resign.
Opposition had blocked supply so the govt was unable to do simple
things like pay the public service.


God Bless a Minority Government..... it's the closest thing to "safe"
governing you can get. Our GG has dismissed parliament on several occasions
based on non confidence votes.

CM



DSK June 8th 06 03:49 PM

Bloody "D" Day Anniv.
 
For those Bleeding Hearts, with the Big Mouths about Iraq Lose of Lives.

Today is a Time to remember what the Cost of Victory is and not just in
money. It was a very costly Battle in lives lost but people fought
knowing the risk of death was very high. They went willingly and Stopped
the Mad Men of the Nazi Germany.

God Bless You; "Gold Star Heroes!"


D-Day was an incredible undertaking and few people today
realize how much the outcome teetered on the brink. The men
who were on the spot at the time and tipped the balance
should be recognized & remembered as heroes.


Yep, a war worth fighting....pity we don't have leaders with brains
today.



Maxprop wrote:
We typically get the leaders we deserve.



Thom Stewart wrote:
Max,
Oh, how true.
We typically get the leaders we deserve.



I wouldn't mind that so much, but the problem now is that
we've got the leaders that Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, and
Maxprop deserve. The rest of us deserve at least slightly
better, but have been dragged down.

Regards
Doug King


Bob Crantz June 8th 06 08:32 PM

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:49:09 -0400, DSK said:

I wouldn't mind that so much, but the problem now is that
we've got the leaders that Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter,


Ann Coulter and Maureen Dowd are like book ends. If either were half as
smart as she thinks she is she'd be dangerous.


Ann Coulter is hot!



DSK June 9th 06 12:23 AM

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Ann Coulter is hot!


Dave wrote:
That's as may be, but it's a pity that neither she nor Maureen has a brain.


I like Molly Ivins better. Don't particularly agree with a
lot of her political statements, but she is funny.

DSK


Bob Crantz June 9th 06 12:46 AM

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"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Ann Coulter is hot!



Dave wrote:
That's as may be, but it's a pity that neither she nor Maureen has a
brain.


I like Molly Ivins better. Don't particularly agree with a lot of her
political statements, but she is funny.

DSK


I like Erma Bombeck.



katy June 9th 06 12:50 AM

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Bob Crantz wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Ann Coulter is hot!

Dave wrote:
That's as may be, but it's a pity that neither she nor Maureen has a
brain.

I like Molly Ivins better. Don't particularly agree with a lot of her
political statements, but she is funny.

DSK


I like Erma Bombeck.


She's dead....

DSK June 9th 06 12:53 AM

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Bob Crantz wrote:
I like Erma Bombeck.


Me too

DSK


Bob Crantz June 9th 06 02:04 AM

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My all time favorite is Florence King from National Review.



Jonathan Ganz June 9th 06 04:00 AM

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In article ,
DSK wrote:
Ann Coulter is hot!



Dave wrote:
That's as may be, but it's a pity that neither she nor Maureen has a brain.


I like Molly Ivins better. Don't particularly agree with a
lot of her political statements, but she is funny.

DSK


She's got wit that's for sure. Actually didn't even slam Bushboy too
much in Scrub.


--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com



Maxprop June 9th 06 04:43 AM

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OzOne wrote in message ...
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 19:19:47 -0400, "Scotty"


Of course..we actually have a prime minister with brains, unlike you,
but unfortunately he has failed to use them and got us into the same
mess as yours has you.


We don't have a prime minister with brains or otherwise.

And what leads you to believe that a PM with brains allows himself to be
drawn into the same chaos into which our illustrious idiot President
blundered? Bird of a feather . . .

Max



Maxprop June 9th 06 04:44 AM

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OzOne wrote in message ...
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 21:28:41 -0400, "Scotty"
scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote in message
. ..


And by 'we', you mean Australia, right?

Scotty


I mean we as in you guys and us.


And by ''us'', you mean Australia, right?

Scotty

Of course..we actually have a prime minister with brains,

unlike you,
but unfortunately he has failed to use them and got us

into the same
mess as yours has you.


Oh dear, Ozzy thinks we have a prime minister.

Scotty

Nope, you have a chimp...we have a chump.


What sort of man allows a chimp to lead him astray? Another chimp,
obviously. Dont elevate the idiot to a level beyond which he belongs.

Max



Maxprop June 9th 06 04:54 AM

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"DSK" wrote in message
...

I wouldn't mind that so much, but the problem now is that we've got the
leaders that Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, and Maxprop deserve. The rest of
us deserve at least slightly better, but have been dragged down.


No one gets "dragged down" that isn't willing to be. Bush is the leader
*you* deserve, as well. If your candidate didn't win, you have no one to
blame but the failure of your political constituency to be victorious.

And while you're being a jerk and lumping me in with Ann Coulter, perhaps
you'd care to be lumped in with George Soros, Al Franken, and Michael Moore?

Max



Maxprop June 9th 06 04:57 AM

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"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Ann Coulter is hot!



Dave wrote:
That's as may be, but it's a pity that neither she nor Maureen has a
brain.


I like Molly Ivins better. Don't particularly agree with a lot of her
political statements, but she is funny.


So is Ann Coulter, but that doesn't make her right or decent in her views.

Of course I'm confident you never see anything humorous coming from the
right wing. :-)

Max



DSK June 9th 06 12:39 PM

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Maxprop wrote:
And while you're being a jerk and lumping me in with Ann Coulter


You put yourself there with your behavior. If you don't like
it, then change the way you act.

DSK


DSK June 9th 06 12:40 PM

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We thought Bush was pretty funny until he was "elected".


OzOne wrote:
Maybe Robin Williams should run next time?


He's too smart to want to be President.

DSK


Bob Crantz June 9th 06 03:49 PM

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Ann Coulter is to babe as Rush Limbaugh is to manly!

Yowza!!!!!



DSK June 9th 06 08:02 PM

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Bob Crantz wrote:
Ann Coulter is to babe as Rush Limbaugh is to manly!


Absolutely true.

And Maxprop accuses me of not finding anything funny about
the far-right wing.

DSK


Bob Crantz June 9th 06 09:57 PM

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Perhaps Maxipad fails to see that these people are entertainers first. That
is what gets them their paycheck and power.

The right wing is much more hysterical than the loonie left. The loonie left
take themselves too seriously. The right preaches morals and look so funny
when caught with their hand down a boy's pants or lose their hearing to
painkiller addictions. With the right it is the hypocrisy. With the left it
is the stoopidity. Both provide good theater.

Amen!



Bob Crantz June 9th 06 11:30 PM

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"Mys Terry" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 14:57:52 -0600, "Bob Crantz"
wrote:



Bob, I'm hoping you can explain this to me... Why is there a "Religious
Right",
and no "Religious Left"?

Seems unbalanced somehow. Are Leftys really so much more grounded that
they
simply don't need that "Wizard of Oz" pretend stuff to cushion their
dealings
with life and reality?



There is a religious left, it's not very big. If you consider
environmentalism a religion then it gets bigger. The left have their own
forms of delusion too. I'm beginning to believe the right's delusions are
more dangerous. Some say the world will end by fire, some say by ice...

In the words of the Great Barry Goldwater:

"Those who seek absolute power, even though they seek it to do what they
regard as good, are simply demanding the right to enforce their own version
of heaven on earth. And let me remind you, they are the very ones who always
create the most hellish tyrannies. Absolute power does corrupt, and those
who seek it must be suspect and must be opposed. Their mistaken course stems
from false notions of equality, ladies and gentlemen. Equality, rightly
understood, as our founding fathers understood it, leads to liberty and to
the emancipation of creative differences. Wrongly understood, as it has been
so tragically in our time, it leads first to conformity and then to
despotism."

"I cherish a day when our children once again will restore as heroes the
sort of men and women who - unafraid and undaunted - pursue the truth,
strive to cure disease, subdue and make fruitful our natural environment and
produce the inventive engines of production, science, and technology."

"We see, in private property and in economy based upon and fostering private
property, the one way to make government a durable ally of the whole man,
rather than his determined enemy. We see in the sanctity of private property
the only durable foundation for constitutional government in a free society.
And beyond that, we see, in cherished diversity of ways, diversity of
thoughts, of motives and accomplishments. We do not seek to lead anyone's
life for him - we seek only to secure his rights and to guarantee him
opportunity to strive, with government performing only those needed and
constitutionally sanctioned tasks which cannot otherwise be performed. "

"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And
let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no
virtue."



AMEN!





Maxprop June 13th 06 02:15 AM

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"DSK" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:
And while you're being a jerk and lumping me in with Ann Coulter


You put yourself there with your behavior. If you don't like it, then
change the way you act.


Are you so blind to your own behavior that you believe yourself to be any
different, albeit at the opposite end of the political spectrum?

Max



DSK June 13th 06 02:19 AM

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You put yourself there with your behavior. If you don't like it, then
change the way you act.



Maxprop wrote:
Are you so blind to your own behavior that you believe yourself to be any
different, albeit at the opposite end of the political spectrum?


1- I am not at the "opposite end of the political spectrum"
except possibly with regard to principle

2- My behavior is very considerably different. You and Dave
are the only ones who think I insult others for disagreeing,
and then only some of the time. Everybody knows that you do
it all the time.

So it isn't really a question of "belief" now is it?

DSK


Maxprop June 13th 06 02:30 AM

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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
. ..
Perhaps Maxipad fails to see that these people are entertainers first.
That is what gets them their paycheck and power.


What Max believes is that Doug has nothing resembling a sense of humor.
Doug is an angry, strident whiner, and while he claims to interject humor
into his political diatribes he tends to allow his angry side too much
latitude. He's the sort we all tend to back away from when he's ****ed.

Further I am well aware that Rush and Ann are entertainers first, last, and
in between. I've never taken any political pundits seriously, nor do I take
our Congressmen and Senators seriously, at least not until they attempt to
run for higher office. What's amusing is that I can rip Ann Coulter a new
one and Doug will continue to blast me as a right-wing wacko nonetheless.

The right wing is much more hysterical than the loonie left. The loonie
left take themselves too seriously. The right preaches morals and look so
funny when caught with their hand down a boy's pants or lose their hearing
to painkiller addictions. With the right it is the hypocrisy. With the
left it is the stoopidity. Both provide good theater.


I couldn't agree more. Doug doesn't listen to me--he assumes that I'm a
right-wing fanatic, when all along I've been either playing devil's advocate
or blasting the extremes equally. His mind is made up--don't confuse him
with humor or satire.

Politics is a sordid business. The players are usually some of the most
flawed individuals that occupy space on the planet, and that applies to
politicians everywhere, not just here. They are easy targets. Good theater
aside, they are certainly yanking a lot of citizens' chains collectively.
The chain around Doug's neck is getting elongated from being yanked so
frequently and firmly.

Max



Maxprop June 13th 06 02:33 AM

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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
. ..

There is a religious left, it's not very big. If you consider
environmentalism a religion then it gets bigger. The left have their own
forms of delusion too. I'm beginning to believe the right's delusions are
more dangerous. Some say the world will end by fire, some say by ice...


Say, that's pretty good. Mind if I use that? Or did you plagiarize that?

In the words of the Great Barry Goldwater:

"Those who seek absolute power, even though they seek it to do what they
regard as good, are simply demanding the right to enforce their own
version of heaven on earth. And let me remind you, they are the very ones
who always create the most hellish tyrannies. Absolute power does corrupt,
and those who seek it must be suspect and must be opposed. Their mistaken
course stems from false notions of equality, ladies and gentlemen.
Equality, rightly understood, as our founding fathers understood it, leads
to liberty and to the emancipation of creative differences. Wrongly
understood, as it has been so tragically in our time, it leads first to
conformity and then to despotism."

"I cherish a day when our children once again will restore as heroes the
sort of men and women who - unafraid and undaunted - pursue the truth,
strive to cure disease, subdue and make fruitful our natural environment
and produce the inventive engines of production, science, and technology."

"We see, in private property and in economy based upon and fostering
private property, the one way to make government a durable ally of the
whole man, rather than his determined enemy. We see in the sanctity of
private property the only durable foundation for constitutional government
in a free society. And beyond that, we see, in cherished diversity of
ways, diversity of thoughts, of motives and accomplishments. We do not
seek to lead anyone's life for him - we seek only to secure his rights and
to guarantee him opportunity to strive, with government performing only
those needed and constitutionally sanctioned tasks which cannot otherwise
be performed. "

"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.
And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no
virtue."


It's good Barry died when he did. He'd be disappointed with the
sociopolitical climate of today.

Max




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