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introduction, and rant...
I am a long term sailor with over 30 years of experience on the water in
various boats, that I've chartered, owned, rented, borrowed or stole. I'm also a long term member of this group and this is my very first posting. I was under the assumption that this group was for people interested in sailing, sailors, the ASA, training, piloting, safer boating, boats, rigging, sails, racing, cruising, and... holes in the water that you throw money into. Am I mistaken? according to the FAQ... "1.0 Newsgroup origin alt.sailing.asa was begun by the American Sailing Association in 1990 as a forum for the exchange of ideas by people who share an interest in the sport and lifestyle of sailing. At the time, the only other, similar newsgroup was rec.boats. alt.sailing.asa had a more specific focus." People, if I was a new boot that had a modicum of interest in sailing, and I trolled the newsgroups to expand my knowledge base, and found this group, I'd say to myself, "hmmm, this is the ASA group, must be they know what the big deal is about all of this sailing stuff." and what, pray tell would I see? snippy, obnoxious, pretentious, moody, self-centered, materialistic, "mine is better than yours" "yours is a POS" meglomaniac, narcissistic, holier than thou, whiners that seem to spend more time ****ing and moaning, or celebrating their last purchase of some trinket, car, house, camera, boat, pair of shoes... anything but putting your feet over the gunwale and enjoying the wind in your hair, the pure joy of you, the wind, and your journey. What would I think if I saw these posts? I would think... "You know, based on what I see here, I'm not too sure i'd like to belly up almost the price of a home for a boat to meet and greet these people. " I know that sailors are a unique breed. I am one. I'm a bit off center. ok, sometimes I don't know where center is! I also know that over these past 30 years, I have meet some of the most wondeful people on the face of the earth. People that will give you the shirt off of their backs if you've been in the sun too long, people that will without question, give you a tow, food, fuel, and a place to hang your hat if need be. People that catch a fish, side up next to you and say... "you got wine for this?" So, heres just a suggestion. Instead of looking for confirmation of your existance thru your latest Amex purchase, or touting what a wonderful consumer you must be, or deriding someone else for what they thought was a decent idea at the time, or, instead of lambasting some poor sap for their foilables, hows about we kinda, sorta, maybe, discuss what we all profess to love. Sailing, our boats, the water, our first mates (the keepers of the budget), our sailing friends and families, our trips, our journeys our adventures and our joys. hey, its just a thought. There are literally hundreds of thousands of people that are considering "going boating" this year... what do you say about helping further the cause? A bit about the poster: I have never circumnavigated the world. Don't plan to, don't need to. If you have, or are going to, I wish you well. Good for you. My hole in the water is celebrating her 30th birthday this year. She is only 27 ft long, but has all I and the boss need for a weekend, or a week on "our" 89,000 acre lake. She has a full sail locker with 100, 120, and 165 hanked jibs. we even fly a spinniker when we get a wild hair in our butt. Over the past 30 years I've run aground so many times I've considered putting wheels on her keel. If you haven't, good for you, I'm proud of you. Her Atomic 4 has never failed us. Last years fuel costs? 38.00. this year so far... 20.00. We don't have solar panels, wind generators, water maker, or forward looking sonar. We do have a 8D battery for the house, and a 4D back up and a 30 gallon fresh water tank. The princess 2 burner suits us just fine, thank you. The ice box goes thru about 20 lbs a day in August. we deal wih it. No flat panel here, a radio/cd works wonders for the ambiance. One thought... the full moon, a comfy cockpit and a good book. The forward V-berth demands that we snuggle. Thats not a bad thing. I like to say that she'll sleep six friends or 2 family members. My 15 year old son has caught the "bug" and We're looking to upgrade, so I can hand our faithful, reliable friend down to him. From early March to late November, She, the boss and I have a wonderful threesome on that lake almost every weekend, from friday afternoon to late sunday evening. In fact, in just two weeks, we are relocating to an abode within minutes from her so we can spend more time on her. "Boats are the nearest thing to dreams that man has ever made" "Wherever we want to go, we'll go. That's what a ship is, you know. It's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs... but what a ship is... what the Black Pearl really is... is freedom." rant over, returning you to your regularly scheduled program. |
introduction, and rant...
Well, assuming you're not a sockpuppet....Welcome. In spite of all of
the nonsense generated here (not a small amount from me) you'll find that quite a few people actually know something about sailing and don't mind talking about it on occasion. On the other hand, we have a few nasty humorless folks like Scott Vernon and Ringmaster who find the need to deride and spout harsh language on a regular basis. Again, welcome....and good luck. RB 35s5 NY |
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I am unfamiliar with what a sockpuppet is, but, this is what i'm talking
about... "it is much better than be thought a fool, than open your mouth and prove it" "Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... Well, assuming you're not a sockpuppet....Welcome. In spite of all of the nonsense generated here (not a small amount from me) you'll find that quite a few people actually know something about sailing and don't mind talking about it on occasion. On the other hand, we have a few nasty humorless folks like Scott Vernon and Ringmaster who find the need to deride and spout harsh language on a regular basis. Again, welcome....and good luck. RB 35s5 NY |
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I am unfamiliar with what a sockpuppet is, but, this is what i'm
talking about... A sockpuppet is someone who uses more than one email/re-mailer to pose as more than one person. We have quite a few in this group. "it is much better than be thought a fool, than open your mouth and prove it" That'[s fine, but I prefer: "The true fool only appears foolish in his own eyes." Again, best of luck to you. Oh, and what kind of boat do you sail? I did not catch the builder. I used to sail a Catalina 27 myself. RB 35s5 NY |
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a 1976 catalina 27 tall rig
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message ps.com... much snippage... Again, best of luck to you. Oh, and what kind of boat do you sail? I did not catch the builder. I used to sail a Catalina 27 myself. RB 35s5 NY |
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1976 catalina 27 tall rig
My first boat was a Catalina 27 standard rig with a shoal draft. She was a 1973 boat and pretty tired, but for 5 years we had a great time with her. I paid just 5K for her and couldn't believe I was sailing around for so little money. The 27 and 30 have certainly made a lot of people fall in love with sailing. This is my current boat...a Beneteau 35s5 named Heart of Gold which we are really enjoying here on the Long Island Sound... http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/index.html RB 35s5 NY |
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nunyadarnbidness wrote:
I am a long term sailor with over 30 years of experience on the water And you start up a "conversation" with Boobsprit? Congratulations. OTOH you can find a great deal of sailing/cruising expertise among this group if you don't get sidetracked playing retardo games. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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And you start up a "conversation" with Boobsprit?
Congratulations. If you ignore posts like DSK's you'll actually find some good content here. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com.. .. And you start up a "conversation" with Boobsprit? Congratulations. If you ignore posts from me, you'll actually find some good content here. true. |
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"nunyadarnbidness" wrote in message ... snippy, obnoxious, pretentious, moody, self-centered, materialistic, "mine is better than yours" "yours is a POS" meglomaniac, narcissistic, holier than thou, whiners that seem to spend more time ****ing and moaning, or celebrating their last purchase of some trinket, car, house, camera, boat, pair of shoes... anything but putting your feet over the gunwale and enjoying the wind in your hair, the pure joy of you, the wind, and your journey. Yup, that's Bob****, to a 't'. |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... And you start up a "conversation" with Boobsprit? Congratulations. If you ignore posts like DSK's you'll actually find some good content here. RB 35s5 I would think the original poster would have infinitely more satisfaction discussing sailing with a seasoned sailor like Doug than with a spoiled brat rich kid from NY..... NY |
I'd like to point out....
that this guy with all the sailing experience claims he doesn't know what a
sockpuppet is, yet he knows how to configure his ng program to shield his email identity....warning...warning...danger...danger... .. |
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"nunyadarnbidness" wrote in message ... There are literally hundreds of thousands of people that are considering "going boating" this year... what do you say about helping further the cause? I say, keep them off boats. There's too many idiots out on the water now! Over the past 30 years I've run aground so many times I've considered putting wheels on her keel. Have you considered taking a basic nav course? SBV |
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-- "Swab Rob" wrote Welcome. In spite of all the nonsense I generate here you'll find that other people actually know something about sailing and don't mind talking about it on occasion. BB KIA NY |
I'd like to point out....
Ah!
Things dead, long dead, see! how they rise again! --Why, why keep silence all these fourteen years, When, on this letter, which he never wrote, The tears were your tears? The bloodstains were his. Why, then, that noble silence,--kept so long-- Broken to-day for the first time--why? Why?. . . |
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Note that I'm the only person not to troll this thread. Take from that
what you will. Any pics of your Catalina 27 around? RB 35s5 NY |
I'd like to point out....
this is exactly what i was talking about
out of the 17 replies so far, only 2 have anything remotely to do with sailing. as far as my "identity", if you'd like my name and address, phone number, tcp-ip address, d/l number, ask, and I'll email it to you. I do this so the spiders & bots don't grab a vailid email addy and fill my mailbox with hundreds of spam emails... I was under the impression that a sockpuppet was something you made with your toddlers, sorry for my not being up to date on the vernacular. thanks for confirming my opinion. "katysails" wrote in message ... that this guy with all the sailing experience claims he doesn't know what a sockpuppet is, yet he knows how to configure his ng program to shield his email identity....warning...warning...danger...danger... .. |
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I'll discuss sailing with anyone that would like to discuss sailing.
I don't care if its a spoiled rich kid, or a dock bum (like me) if it floats, its all good. "katysails" wrote in message ... "Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... And you start up a "conversation" with Boobsprit? Congratulations. If you ignore posts like DSK's you'll actually find some good content here. RB 35s5 I would think the original poster would have infinitely more satisfaction discussing sailing with a seasoned sailor like Doug than with a spoiled brat rich kid from NY..... NY |
I'd like to point out....
Why? Why you ask?
simply put, I'm just frustrated enough with the volumes of off topic flotsam and jetsam, the "mines bigger than yours" the "yours is stupid, ytherefore, you're stupid" posts. I mean really people, do any of "yall" actually listen to yourselves? "Bob Crantz" wrote in message . .. Ah! Things dead, long dead, see! how they rise again! --Why, why keep silence all these fourteen years, When, on this letter, which he never wrote, The tears were your tears? The bloodstains were his. Why, then, that noble silence,--kept so long-- Broken to-day for the first time--why? Why?. . . |
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Scotty,
I was of course, speaking with tongue firmly in cheek. "Scotty" wrote in message ... "nunyadarnbidness" wrote in message ... There are literally hundreds of thousands of people that are considering "going boating" this year... what do you say about helping further the cause? I say, keep them off boats. There's too many idiots out on the water now! Over the past 30 years I've run aground so many times I've considered putting wheels on her keel. Have you considered taking a basic nav course? SBV |
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Hey Nunya,
were do you sail? Do you think you need a water maker, solar panel, forward looking sonar, wind gen, on a day sailor like your? Those things belong on a cruiser. Joe |
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again, tongue firmly in cheek.
Lake Texoma "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Hey Nunya, were do you sail? Do you think you need a water maker, solar panel, forward looking sonar, wind gen, on a day sailor like your? Those things belong on a cruiser. Joe |
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I mean really people, do any of "yall" actually listen to yourselves?
Wanna talk sailing...go right ahead. I assure you sailing related topics do break out here on occasion. This is a family, dysfunctional though it may be. If you want to join in on the fun....go right ahead. We're all waiting. RB 35s5 NY |
I'd like to point out....
"nunyadarnbidness" wrote in message ... Why? Why you ask? simply put, I'm just frustrated enough with the volumes of off topic flotsam and jetsam, the "mines bigger than yours" the "yours is stupid, ytherefore, you're stupid" posts. I mean really people, do any of "yall" actually listen to yourselves? "Bob Crantz" wrote in message . .. Ah! Things dead, long dead, see! how they rise again! --Why, why keep silence all these fourteen years, When, on this letter, which he never wrote, The tears were your tears? The bloodstains were his. Why, then, that noble silence,--kept so long-- Broken to-day for the first time--why? Why?. . . Mosy of us have been posting to this group for years and years...some of us sail on each other's boats...some of us live in the same communities...some of us have shared the same slip....we all know each other, in a downhome personal way....so you're going to come in here and criticize how we interact? |
I'd like to point out....
"nunyadarnbidness" wrote in message . .. this is exactly what i was talking about out of the 17 replies so far, only 2 have anything remotely to do with sailing. as far as my "identity", if you'd like my name and address, phone number, tcp-ip address, d/l number, ask, and I'll email it to you. I do this so the spiders & bots don't grab a vailid email addy and fill my mailbox with hundreds of spam emails... I was under the impression that a sockpuppet was something you made with your toddlers, sorry for my not being up to date on the vernacular. thanks for confirming my opinion. "katysails" wrote in message ... that this guy with all the sailing experience claims he doesn't know what a sockpuppet is, yet he knows how to configure his ng program to shield his email identity....warning...warning...danger...danger... .. So, you want to hear sailinjg? I'll be out on the Neuse River and Pamlico Sound area for the weekend on our sailboat down in NC ...we're originally Great Lakes sailors...we'll be sharung out experience with friends...oh, and I'm sure the hugh point of the weekend will be a stop at the pump out station....now, isn't that exciting? How many hotdogs and burgers you going to eat on Monday? I'd truly like to know.... |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message ups.com... Note that I'm the only person not to troll this thread. Take from that what you will. Any pics of your Catalina 27 around? RB 35s5 NY Jusst by making that statement you've given yourself the lie.... |
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"Dave" wrote in message ... On Fri, 26 May 2006 08:57:06 -0400, DSK said: OTOH you can find a great deal of sailing/cruising expertise among this group if you don't get sidetracked playing retardo games. Yes. For me the thing is to be selective. I probably don't bother downloading about 90% of the articles posted to the group. Well, that takes care of Bobspit.... |
I'd like to point out....
much better, thank you very much.
In about 2 hours we'll be stepping aboard. won't return until monday evening. We'll have plenty of provisions, thank you for asking. "katysails" wrote in message ... So, you want to hear sailinjg? I'll be out on the Neuse River and Pamlico Sound area for the weekend on our sailboat down in NC ...we're originally Great Lakes sailors...we'll be sharung out experience with friends...oh, and I'm sure the hugh point of the weekend will be a stop at the pump out station....now, isn't that exciting? How many hotdogs and burgers you going to eat on Monday? I'd truly like to know.... |
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that was directed to who(m)?
if you'd like pics, I'll email 'em. in fact, i am doing so now... I'd rather not have my email addy all over the net, thank you. "katysails" wrote in message ... "Capt. Rob" wrote in message ups.com... Note that I'm the only person not to troll this thread. Take from that what you will. Any pics of your Catalina 27 around? RB 35s5 NY Jusst by making that statement you've given yourself the lie.... |
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As stated elsewhere, in a couple of hours we'll be stepping off for the
weekend, well provisioned. We'll stay out till monday evening, we may go to pompanos on sat night, and anchor up in one of the small inlets for some quality quiet time. "Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... I mean really people, do any of "yall" actually listen to yourselves? Wanna talk sailing...go right ahead. I assure you sailing related topics do break out here on occasion. This is a family, dysfunctional though it may be. If you want to join in on the fun....go right ahead. We're all waiting. RB 35s5 NY |
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We'll stay out till monday evening, we may go to pompanos on sat night,
and anchor up in one of the small inlets for some quality quiet time. Well, that's great...I'm jealous! I'll only be sailing tomorrow and just for the day. When you get back give us a sailing report! Have a good weekend. RB 35s5 NY |
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Texoma is nice, the south side anyway.
You should trailer down for the weekend and sail the bay or gulf. Joe |
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"nunyadarnbidness" wrote in message ... that was directed to who(m)? if you'd like pics, I'll email 'em. in fact, i am doing so now... I'd rather not have my email addy all over the net, thank you. "katysails" wrote in message ... "Capt. Rob" wrote in message ups.com... Note that I'm the only person not to troll this thread. Take from that what you will. Any pics of your Catalina 27 around? RB 35s5 NY Jusst by making that statement you've given yourself the lie.... Twere bobspittle that wanted the pics...he's sof the opinion that if uyou don't publish a pic of every single event where your foot touches the deck that you don't sail....thanks, but I don't open attachements from people I don't know....most people here establish Webshots accounts to post their sailing pics on.... |
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And your point is... ? :-)
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "nunyadarnbidness" wrote in message ... I am a long term sailor with over 30 years of experience on the water in various boats, that I've chartered, owned, rented, borrowed or stole. I'm also a long term member of this group and this is my very first posting. I was under the assumption that this group was for people interested in sailing, sailors, the ASA, training, piloting, safer boating, boats, rigging, sails, racing, cruising, and... holes in the water that you throw money into. Am I mistaken? according to the FAQ... "1.0 Newsgroup origin alt.sailing.asa was begun by the American Sailing Association in 1990 as a forum for the exchange of ideas by people who share an interest in the sport and lifestyle of sailing. At the time, the only other, similar newsgroup was rec.boats. alt.sailing.asa had a more specific focus." People, if I was a new boot that had a modicum of interest in sailing, and I trolled the newsgroups to expand my knowledge base, and found this group, I'd say to myself, "hmmm, this is the ASA group, must be they know what the big deal is about all of this sailing stuff." and what, pray tell would I see? snippy, obnoxious, pretentious, moody, self-centered, materialistic, "mine is better than yours" "yours is a POS" meglomaniac, narcissistic, holier than thou, whiners that seem to spend more time ****ing and moaning, or celebrating their last purchase of some trinket, car, house, camera, boat, pair of shoes... anything but putting your feet over the gunwale and enjoying the wind in your hair, the pure joy of you, the wind, and your journey. What would I think if I saw these posts? I would think... "You know, based on what I see here, I'm not too sure i'd like to belly up almost the price of a home for a boat to meet and greet these people. " I know that sailors are a unique breed. I am one. I'm a bit off center. ok, sometimes I don't know where center is! I also know that over these past 30 years, I have meet some of the most wondeful people on the face of the earth. People that will give you the shirt off of their backs if you've been in the sun too long, people that will without question, give you a tow, food, fuel, and a place to hang your hat if need be. People that catch a fish, side up next to you and say... "you got wine for this?" So, heres just a suggestion. Instead of looking for confirmation of your existance thru your latest Amex purchase, or touting what a wonderful consumer you must be, or deriding someone else for what they thought was a decent idea at the time, or, instead of lambasting some poor sap for their foilables, hows about we kinda, sorta, maybe, discuss what we all profess to love. Sailing, our boats, the water, our first mates (the keepers of the budget), our sailing friends and families, our trips, our journeys our adventures and our joys. hey, its just a thought. There are literally hundreds of thousands of people that are considering "going boating" this year... what do you say about helping further the cause? A bit about the poster: I have never circumnavigated the world. Don't plan to, don't need to. If you have, or are going to, I wish you well. Good for you. My hole in the water is celebrating her 30th birthday this year. She is only 27 ft long, but has all I and the boss need for a weekend, or a week on "our" 89,000 acre lake. She has a full sail locker with 100, 120, and 165 hanked jibs. we even fly a spinniker when we get a wild hair in our butt. Over the past 30 years I've run aground so many times I've considered putting wheels on her keel. If you haven't, good for you, I'm proud of you. Her Atomic 4 has never failed us. Last years fuel costs? 38.00. this year so far... 20.00. We don't have solar panels, wind generators, water maker, or forward looking sonar. We do have a 8D battery for the house, and a 4D back up and a 30 gallon fresh water tank. The princess 2 burner suits us just fine, thank you. The ice box goes thru about 20 lbs a day in August. we deal wih it. No flat panel here, a radio/cd works wonders for the ambiance. One thought... the full moon, a comfy cockpit and a good book. The forward V-berth demands that we snuggle. Thats not a bad thing. I like to say that she'll sleep six friends or 2 family members. My 15 year old son has caught the "bug" and We're looking to upgrade, so I can hand our faithful, reliable friend down to him. From early March to late November, She, the boss and I have a wonderful threesome on that lake almost every weekend, from friday afternoon to late sunday evening. In fact, in just two weeks, we are relocating to an abode within minutes from her so we can spend more time on her. "Boats are the nearest thing to dreams that man has ever made" "Wherever we want to go, we'll go. That's what a ship is, you know. It's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs... but what a ship is... what the Black Pearl really is... is freedom." rant over, returning you to your regularly scheduled program. |
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Step one, don't feel the troll...
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "nunyadarnbidness" wrote in message ... I am unfamiliar with what a sockpuppet is, but, this is what i'm talking about... "it is much better than be thought a fool, than open your mouth and prove it" "Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... Well, assuming you're not a sockpuppet....Welcome. In spite of all of the nonsense generated here (not a small amount from me) you'll find that quite a few people actually know something about sailing and don't mind talking about it on occasion. On the other hand, we have a few nasty humorless folks like Scott Vernon and Ringmaster who find the need to deride and spout harsh language on a regular basis. Again, welcome....and good luck. RB 35s5 NY |
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Nice boat... sailed many miles in and around the SF area on one with an A-4.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "nunyadarnbidness" wrote in message ... a 1976 catalina 27 tall rig "Capt. Rob" wrote in message ps.com... much snippage... Again, best of luck to you. Oh, and what kind of boat do you sail? I did not catch the builder. I used to sail a Catalina 27 myself. RB 35s5 NY |
I'd like to point out....
He's not that good at it.. :-)
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "katysails" wrote in message ... that this guy with all the sailing experience claims he doesn't know what a sockpuppet is, yet he knows how to configure his ng program to shield his email identity....warning...warning...danger...danger... .. |
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"Joe" wrote:
Hey Nunya, were do you sail? "nunyadarnbidness" inspired me to write: again, tongue firmly in cheek. Lake Texoma Oh my thong underwear! ....I was going to spend this weekend at Texoma, but my client made the sale of his lakeside property with slip before the weekend. He pulled his huge 42' cigar boat to work to impress me (although I wasn't!), but has already been thinking about buying a cat like Jeff's just to impress me. He has 5 companies so far that I've been managing, one being an upscale liquor store. (Very convienient) LP He tried to impress me a couple days ago talking to someone on the phone to give him the interest rate and insurance on the cat. heh I was thinking about going to Eufala Lake (to a big party), but gave into staying home for a tall strawberry blonde lucious male friend of mine that works for a major airline (or two). A couple of funny coindences...his first name, birthdate, and occupation is the same as bertie's. Then he bought a BWM motorcycle and he has the exact same van as CN. Even more...but I digress. |
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"Mys Terry" wrote: On Fri, 26 May 2006 06:15:31 -0500, "nunyadarnbidness" wrote: I am a long term sailor with over 30 years of experience on the water in various boats, that I've chartered, owned, rented, borrowed or stole. I'm also a long term member of this group and this is my very first posting. It's always those who have contributed the least that complain the most. If you want better content here, PROVIDE IT. Lurkers who do not post are not members, they are freeloaders. Wow! Do you think that kind of arsenal is proper for a newbie? Or are you just fishing? :-) LP |
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"nunyadarnbidness" wrote: I'll discuss sailing with anyone that would like to discuss sailing. I don't care if its a spoiled rich kid, or a dock bum (like me) if it floats, its all good. What are you doing in Arlington, TX? LP (curious minds) |
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