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New 911 Video released
The tape of the plane hitting the Pentagon has finally been released.
There is only two frames at most showing a "plane" and it's far too small an image to be a airliner. The video is quite poor quality and vague, but this will only fuel the rising belief that some elements of 9/11 were lies. No comercial airliner struck the Pentagon. Every in various forums agrees that it's not a plane including airline pilots. If there's better footage showing a airliner hitting the Pentagon they had better release it fast. RB 35s5 NY |
New 911 Video released
Good Lord Robert....you are nuts.
What happened to all the people on that plane that died? You think 100+ famlies across the nation are "in on it" or what? You think they all got CIA cancer or something? You fall for every chunk of vomit bait the liberal blogging media tosses your way. Damn you're dumb! Post a link to the video BTW! Capt. Suzy 35s5 NY |
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Joe, get with the program. Hundreds of family members are demanding
answers and are hardly on board. Here's part of the reason why: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/pentagon121.swf There is NO wreckage at the Pentagon site. Furthermore, Boeing refuted the pics of engine parts as even being from any 757. Don't believe everything you've been told just because you don't have all of the facts. Even if you buy none of this, this is still interesting to watch: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...q=loose+change Capt RB 35s5 NY |
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Joe who?
My name is Suzy I do not have high speed internet here on my 35s5... so downloading that movie is not something I want to do on dial-up. The camera at the pentagon took pictures every 2 seconds, you can miss alot in 2 seconds. Are you saying our leaders launched a missle at the pentagon or what Robert? Guess you think the govt also had explosives planted in the WTC complex right? The people who spin these webs are crapping all over the real victims and supporting the terrorist. The suckers that take this crap bait are also helping the terrorist. Please....the 9mm is in the end table.......use it. Capt. Suzy 35s5 NY |
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call him a liar Robert
http://www.coping.org/911/survivor/pentagon.htm And him www.nationalreview.com/robbins/robbins040902.asp And this guy http://www.abqtrib.com/archives/news..._dcscene.shtml Him too! www.cincypost.com/2001/sep/11/wash091101.html And him www.roadstothefuture.com/VA_Sept21.txt I could go on and on. Would you like a passenger list? List of all who died in the Pentagon? Capt. Suzy 35s5 |
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The video released today and playing on AOL's newssite shows the
"plane." Only it's so small that it never even obscures anything. In fact it's so small that when it exploded against the Pentagon it barely burned the grass. Did you know that virtually ALL of the eyewitnesses said it looked like a missile or a small plane? Care to explain how a jet of that size makes just a 16 foot hole and leaves no wreckage? The "official" explanation is that the plane "vaporized." Did you know that? Does that sound reasonable to you? Number of planes in HISTORY that vaporized on impact = 0. No is saying they have the answers. But that doesn't mean we were fed the correct ones either. If our government lied about WMDs before and after the fact, why are you still so sure they're telling the truth about this? While we're at it, did you know that WTC fires were not hot enough to bring the buildings down. The 2000 degree melting tale is a lie. It's almost twice that. Are you aware that most demolition experts believe it's impossible for both towers to collapse in the same fashion within and hour of eachother? Are you aware that the PA crash site, when first investigated by the NTSB, was judged to be unlike any other crash site ever recorded and some team members claimed it looked "staged." The stories go on. Are they all true? I doubt it. Are they all lies. I also doubt that. Snap out of it, Joe. RB 35s5 NY |
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My name is Suzy. How do you do?
See you took all the liberal vomit bait, hook line and sinker. So you think a demo team wired the towers now, and none of the thousands of workers noticed, and all the experts needed for such a big demo job are all staying quiet. Someone launched a cruise missle at the pentagon, and all the eye witnesses are liars or mistaken. And let me guess, Bush did this to raise the price of oil. Good Lord you are dumber than a sack of rocks. Capt. Suzy 35s5 NY |
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It's pretty sad that Joe responds to my post with political nonsense.
Of course there's nothing liberal about the questions I asked. So far no one has been able to explain the crash of a 757 into the Pentagon that left such a small hole and no plane wreckage. Joe also chooses to ignore that witnesses saw a "small plane" or "missile." Not a jetliner. RB 35s5 NY |
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hallucinating is spelled with two L's Robert.
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Where is the plane?
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New 911 Video released
Robert a 1969 model from the factory was called a 400 by the BSA
factory. Everyone understands you a to ****ing stupid to ever get it... so it's OK. You should shift to supporting your latest dickhead move of questioning if an airliner even hit the pentagon. OH THATS WHAT YOU ARE DOING!!!! bwahahahahahahahahah Robert Brody the man who spits on 911 victims, by blaming our govt (or someone else?????) for what Osamma and his suicide boneheads did. You are a sad little man Robert. Capt Suzzanne Brody 35s5 NY |
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Robert Brody the man who spits on 911 victims, by blaming our govt (or
someone else?????) for what Osamma and his suicide boneheads did. That's right, Joe. Nobody's to blame. It all just happened. Nice answer to the questions posed. Just a lot of anger from you as usual. Spits on 9/11 victims? This isn't about the victims, Joe. It's about a 757 Boeing jetliner only making a 16 foot hole in a building with no sign of the plane afterwards. Where are the wings, Joe? The tail section? All the witnesses who said it was not a 757 lied? Oh, okay. RB 35s5 NY |
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In article . com,
Capt. Rob wrote: [snip] While we're at it, did you know that WTC fires were not hot enough to bring the buildings down. The 2000 degree melting tale is a lie. It's almost twice that. Suuuure it is, Bob. Got a source for that? Other than your typical conspiracy theory wackos, that is. Machinerys Handbook quotes 2500F as the melting point for carbon steel. The temperature at which it loses significant strength is a hell of a lot less. At 2000F, steel has gone an orange-red colour and is easily deformed, is non-magnetic as it has undergone a phase change to pretty much pure austenite. You *did* know that the WTC buildings had structural steel skeletons, didn't you? IOW, you're full of ****. As usual. Stick to fuzzy videos, every time you venture to present a fact on anything vaguely relating to tools or materials science, it's wrong. PDW |
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Peter Wiley wrote:
In article . com, Capt. Rob wrote: [snip] While we're at it, did you know that WTC fires were not hot enough to bring the buildings down. The 2000 degree melting tale is a lie. It's almost twice that. Suuuure it is, Bob. Got a source for that? Other than your typical conspiracy theory wackos, that is. Machinerys Handbook quotes 2500F as the melting point for carbon steel. The temperature at which it loses significant strength is a hell of a lot less. At 2000F, steel has gone an orange-red colour and is easily deformed, is non-magnetic as it has undergone a phase change to pretty much pure austenite. You *did* know that the WTC buildings had structural steel skeletons, didn't you? IOW, you're full of ****. As usual. Stick to fuzzy videos, every time you venture to present a fact on anything vaguely relating to tools or materials science, it's wrong. PDW He just posts this crap to get everyone going. When people jump at it, he has a vicarious moment in his home theater seating... |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message ups.com... The tape of the plane hitting the Pentagon has finally been released. There is only two frames at most showing a "plane" and it's far too small an image to be a airliner. The video is quite poor quality and vague, but this will only fuel the rising belief that some elements of 9/11 were lies. No comercial airliner struck the Pentagon. Every in various forums agrees that it's not a plane including airline pilots. If there's better footage showing a airliner hitting the Pentagon they had better release it fast. Bubbles, you're nuts. Max |
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In article , katy
wrote: Peter Wiley wrote: In article . com, Capt. Rob wrote: [snip] While we're at it, did you know that WTC fires were not hot enough to bring the buildings down. The 2000 degree melting tale is a lie. It's almost twice that. Suuuure it is, Bob. Got a source for that? Other than your typical conspiracy theory wackos, that is. Machinerys Handbook quotes 2500F as the melting point for carbon steel. The temperature at which it loses significant strength is a hell of a lot less. At 2000F, steel has gone an orange-red colour and is easily deformed, is non-magnetic as it has undergone a phase change to pretty much pure austenite. You *did* know that the WTC buildings had structural steel skeletons, didn't you? IOW, you're full of ****. As usual. Stick to fuzzy videos, every time you venture to present a fact on anything vaguely relating to tools or materials science, it's wrong. PDW He just posts this crap to get everyone going. When people jump at it, he has a vicarious moment in his home theater seating... Shrug. I skip most of it, not worth the bother. Occasionally he makes the mistake of posting something checkable in the real world. Then, it's time to shoot him down. Gotta haul the boat this w/end. Maintenance time. But never mind, I'll launch again right after winter solstice - the sun will be coming back my way soon :-) PDW |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com... I have to wonder if ANY of you actually checked anything. Perhaps such a thing is too horrible to consider. Yet a quick search shows that no one expert is quite sure of what happened.....yet Joe knows! http://www.serendipity.li/wot/bollyn2.htm Still worse, even experts admit that the WTC fires were not the hottest building fires. There have been many that burned hotter and longer. Amount of buildings that collapsed from sustained fires (some lasting 10 hours or more) = ZERO. Yet the WTC towers, sustaining two totally different hits manage to collapse within an hour of eachother??? Oh, sure, okay! Anyone care to explain how a 757 makes a 16 foot neat hole, leaves no wreckage and doesn't burn the grass in front of the Pentagon? Anyone care to explain the witnesses who said they saw NO 757? But Bob, our government would never lie to us. The president, for instance, has no latent agenda when he pushes the No Child Left Behind act to legislate mandatory high stakes testing. And just because he's invested his hard earned cash in test producing companies that are now running as "for profit" entities, is no reason to suspect he'd manipulate us so we'd be required by law to buy what his companies are producing. http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020128/metcalf/2 Give the man a break, after all, he's going to save us from Mexicans, those *******s! Scout |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... I have to wonder if ANY of you actually checked anything. Perhaps such a thing is too horrible to consider. Yet a quick search shows that no one expert is quite sure of what happened.....yet Joe knows! http://www.serendipity.li/wot/bollyn2.htm Still worse, even experts admit that the WTC fires were not the hottest building fires. There have been many that burned hotter and longer. Amount of buildings that collapsed from sustained fires (some lasting 10 hours or more) = ZERO. Yet the WTC towers, sustaining two totally different hits manage to collapse within an hour of eachother??? Oh, sure, okay! Anyone care to explain how a 757 makes a 16 foot neat hole, leaves no wreckage and doesn't burn the grass in front of the Pentagon? Anyone care to explain the witnesses who said they saw NO 757? Bubbles, you are completely nuts. Max |
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Hi Mys Terry,
You are wrong, it is about the victims and who killed them. You say it was someone else, and with the other terrorist supporter's are trying to shift the blame to some super secret massive conspircy. Do you really think someone, or a group could pull off murdering over 5000 people in the USA with missles and explosives and keep everyone involved quiet? Next you are going to be telling us the moon landing were faked. Like I said you are as dumb as a sack of rocks Robert. Capt Suzy 35s5 NY |
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Do you really think someone, or a group could pull off
murdering over 5000 people in the USA with missles and explosives and keep everyone involved quiet? Who's being quiet? The facts behind 9/11 proven or unproven are rappidly being examined, exposed and tested. Loose Change, the film about the lies we were fed, is among the most downloaded videos. Even mainstream media today said that the new video of the Pentagon will only fuel the doubts. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com.. .. wreckage and doesn't burn the grass in front of the Pentagon? Anyone care to explain the witnesses who said they saw NO 757? A ''witness'' who saw nothing? Bwahahahahahahahah! |
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care to explain the witnesses who said they saw NO 757?
A ''witness'' who saw nothing? Actually, most witnesses reported seeing something quite small, not a 757. You can google up the witness reports. RB 35s5 NY |
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You should move to France Robert.
To bad the douchbag who put together another M. Moore french propaganda style film ...had to give it away free to get anyone to watch. Did they film more American burning bodies for your viewing pleasure? Joe |
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We're going to send troops to protect the border from Mexico. I guess I'll
have do something about my gardener, the infiltrator. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scout" wrote in message ... "Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... I have to wonder if ANY of you actually checked anything. Perhaps such a thing is too horrible to consider. Yet a quick search shows that no one expert is quite sure of what happened.....yet Joe knows! http://www.serendipity.li/wot/bollyn2.htm Still worse, even experts admit that the WTC fires were not the hottest building fires. There have been many that burned hotter and longer. Amount of buildings that collapsed from sustained fires (some lasting 10 hours or more) = ZERO. Yet the WTC towers, sustaining two totally different hits manage to collapse within an hour of eachother??? Oh, sure, okay! Anyone care to explain how a 757 makes a 16 foot neat hole, leaves no wreckage and doesn't burn the grass in front of the Pentagon? Anyone care to explain the witnesses who said they saw NO 757? But Bob, our government would never lie to us. The president, for instance, has no latent agenda when he pushes the No Child Left Behind act to legislate mandatory high stakes testing. And just because he's invested his hard earned cash in test producing companies that are now running as "for profit" entities, is no reason to suspect he'd manipulate us so we'd be required by law to buy what his companies are producing. http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020128/metcalf/2 Give the man a break, after all, he's going to save us from Mexicans, those *******s! Scout |
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In article .com,
Capt. Rob wrote: I have to wonder if ANY of you actually checked anything. Perhaps such a thing is too horrible to consider. Yet a quick search shows that no one expert is quite sure of what happened.....yet Joe knows! Lessee - you're saying that your Govt is so sneaky & clever at faking stuff that they can destroy iconic buildings and basically leave no proof of any sort. This requires Machiavellian skill and meticulous planning. What was the point of it all? To invade Iraq..... yet there were NO links from 9/11 to Iraq, but plenty to other places like Afghanistan & Saudi Arabia. Bit of an oversight there. At the same time, you're saying your Govt is so incompetent that they can't properly manage the invasion of Iraq. At the same time as lying about WMD as a reason to invade. Now, this same Govt that doesn't hesitate to fake terrorist attacks and kill real people, at the same time can't manage to plant WMD in Iraq and then 'find' them, thereby justifying the invasion. Why not? Not like the USA is short of the things, after all, and you've already stated that they lack the moral integrity needed to refrain from such an action. Only whackos like you, Bob, can believe this crap. I prefer the Occam's Razor approach. PDW |
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Lessee - you're saying that your Govt is so sneaky
Nope. I drew no conclusions. I have no idea who would be behind such an act. Only you are making assumptions. Do you really think a 757 makes a 16 foot hole? RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... .. Do you really think a 757 makes a 16 foot hole? The fuselage is only 12.5 feet in diameter. http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question...s/q0110c.shtml Seems about right. Glory! |
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The fuselage is only 12.5 feet in diameter.
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question...s/q0110c.shtml Seems about right. Yeah, so long as it has a perfect angle of penetration and no wings or tail section and doesn't explode....16 feet is perfect. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... The fuselage is only 12.5 feet in diameter. http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question...s/q0110c.shtml Seems about right. Yeah, so long as it has a perfect angle of penetration and no wings or tail section and doesn't explode....16 feet is perfect. RB 35s5 NY The wings and tail sheer off pretty easily. In fact, wings falling off planes is a pretty common mid-air mishap. P-3 Orions had that problem. Wings are like a big lever. The fuselage head on is pretty stout, the whole structure would be in compression. If an airliner flew 150 mph greater than its top speed, the wings and tail would sheer off. |
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fuselage head on is pretty stout, the whole
structure would be in compression. If an airliner flew 150 mph greater than its top speed, the wings and tail would sheer off. All fine, except that the official report says the wings disintegrated on impact. No sections wings or tail section were found. So they didn't sheer off, yet there's no impact area for them. Oopsy. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message ups.com... fuselage head on is pretty stout, the whole structure would be in compression. If an airliner flew 150 mph greater than its top speed, the wings and tail would sheer off. All fine, except that the official report says the wings disintegrated on impact. No sections wings or tail section were found. So they didn't sheer off, yet there's no impact area for them. Oopsy. If they disintegrated then there would be nothing left. Isn't that the meaning of disintegration? Airplanes have lots of aluminum, magnesium and other metals that burn. Solid fuel rocket motors are made of powdered aluminum. Magnesium is used in flares. Look at other airplane crashes. There are several where there's nothing left of the plane. Forest fires melt aluminum structures and objects. An airplane crash is not a car crash. The Pentagon has thick walls. The jet penetrated at least 8 of them. What else could have the momentum (which includes mass) to penetrate that deep? Amen! |
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Bob,
Just about every plane crash that has been recorded leaves major evidence of engines. These engines are huge, but none were found. Something isn't right. The internals of the engines are not aluminum, magnesium, etc. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bob Crantz" wrote in message ... "Capt. Rob" wrote in message ups.com... fuselage head on is pretty stout, the whole structure would be in compression. If an airliner flew 150 mph greater than its top speed, the wings and tail would sheer off. All fine, except that the official report says the wings disintegrated on impact. No sections wings or tail section were found. So they didn't sheer off, yet there's no impact area for them. Oopsy. If they disintegrated then there would be nothing left. Isn't that the meaning of disintegration? Airplanes have lots of aluminum, magnesium and other metals that burn. Solid fuel rocket motors are made of powdered aluminum. Magnesium is used in flares. Look at other airplane crashes. There are several where there's nothing left of the plane. Forest fires melt aluminum structures and objects. An airplane crash is not a car crash. The Pentagon has thick walls. The jet penetrated at least 8 of them. What else could have the momentum (which includes mass) to penetrate that deep? Amen! |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Bob, Just about every plane crash that has been recorded leaves major evidence of engines. These engines are huge, but none were found. Something isn't right. The internals of the engines are not aluminum, magnesium, etc. I have seen the engine remains in photographs. Are the photographs faked? So then, the thing that hit the Pentagon obviously had no engines. Was it a UFO? |
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It was a Mexican gardner. We need to get Bush and Cheney down to the border.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bob Crantz" wrote in message . .. "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Bob, Just about every plane crash that has been recorded leaves major evidence of engines. These engines are huge, but none were found. Something isn't right. The internals of the engines are not aluminum, magnesium, etc. I have seen the engine remains in photographs. Are the photographs faked? So then, the thing that hit the Pentagon obviously had no engines. Was it a UFO? |
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I did see a rake in the photos. You're on to something!
"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... It was a Mexican gardner. We need to get Bush and Cheney down to the border. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bob Crantz" wrote in message . .. "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Bob, Just about every plane crash that has been recorded leaves major evidence of engines. These engines are huge, but none were found. Something isn't right. The internals of the engines are not aluminum, magnesium, etc. I have seen the engine remains in photographs. Are the photographs faked? So then, the thing that hit the Pentagon obviously had no engines. Was it a UFO? |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... The fuselage is only 12.5 feet in diameter. http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question...s/q0110c.shtml Seems about right. Yeah, so long as it has a perfect angle of penetration and no wings or tail section and doesn't explode....16 feet is perfect. The aircraft struck the ground immediately before hitting the Pentagon. It is speculated that the impact with the ground probably broke the wing spars and the wings folded back along the fuselage as the plane entered the building. The entrance hole was actually between the first and second floors, lending credence to the idea that the plane actually bounced slightly after striking the ground. Don't forget, these were not professional pilots, but all things considered they did a credible job of accomplishing their objectives, the flight over PA notwithstanding. Max |
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