You may only get into worse trouble. You might attract
heavyier caliber return fire, or you may become all that
much more attractive a target for theives who want your gun
& ammo.

Ringmaster wrote:
Not true. In New Orleans the only houses that were spared were the
ones with people and weapons inside. Home owners with weapons
protected themselves, their loveones and their STUFF!

Not true. There weren't enough looters to loot EVERY SINGLE
house in New Orleans. So you've already got odds in your
favor (provided you don't attract attention)

1- it's not a good idea to stay at home thru a disaster like
that... a lot of people died in their houses.

2- is your STUFF worth your life, caused either by disaster
or by armed confrontation with crooks? My family is, and I
plan to keep them safe by taking them elsewhere. My stuff
can sit & wait.





AR15s are also the prefered weapon when 200 zombies are coming down
your front street.


Zombies yeah, but real live people?

The .223 is too puny a round. Your best bet is to put a
bayonet on the muzzle so you can stab the looters after you
empty a magazine into them. IMHO a shotgun would be much
preferable.

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh25-e.htm

with a couple extra magazines handy

DSK

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article , Vito

Same logic for fishing. Why waste time with a hook when you can use a
gillnet and have a few drinks while waiting for the fish to commit
suicide?

PDW

Why wait at all Peter?
Chuck a grenade in the water and scoop them up immediately :-)

Did you get a Colt or a Bushmaster?
I bought a shortie cabine from Bushmaster because of the chrome lined
barrel.
What length barrel? Do you have a flash supressor? what stock? what
top?

Joe

"Ringmaster" wrote in message
oups.com...
one is better off with a different means of deterrent than a
gun.

Oh, I forgot to ask what better deterrent might be available under SHTF
conditions? SHTF conditions are no cops, no electricity, no
transportation, no nothing and roving bands of unafraid criminals are
coming. I'm not a gun nut so I'll truly listen.


Flamethrower.

What are you going to use to keep the cops at bay?

That .223 is good for pigs, coyotes and squirrels. Get a real gun that
shoots real bullets. H&K Model 91 is a good start:

http://www.hkpro.com/hk91.htm

Amen!

God, guts and guns made America!

Glory!

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
Did you get a Colt or a Bushmaster?
I bought a shortie cabine from Bushmaster because of the chrome lined
barrel.
What length barrel? Do you have a flash supressor? what stock? what
top?

Joe

HK has a chrome bore too.

AR-15 = toy.

"katy" wrote in


So...just what East Coast disaster are you waiting for? The mammoth
tsunami?

Even worse. Bobsprit: Escape from New York.

So...just what East Coast disaster are you waiting for? The mammoth
tsunami?


Bob Crantz wrote:
Even worse. Bobsprit: Escape from New York.


That's one a-them zombie movies iddn't it?

DSK

My first plan would also be to get out of town. But remember I said a
SHTF condition. Shotgun would be to unwieldy inside of a house. Cut
the barrel off and that's a problem with the law. AR15 packs plenty of
punch if you are using 65 or 75 gr ammo. Normal is 45 or 55 gr. Also
most AR15s shoot 5.56 which is harder hitting than 223. There's enough
dead Iraqs to prove the AR is a good enough weapon.

So...just what East Coast disaster are you waiting for? The mammoth
tsunami?

Earthquake, riots, massive power outs, zombies.

Did you get a Colt or a Bushmaster? I bought a shortie cabine from
Bushmaster because of the chrome lined
barrel. What length barrel? Do you have a flash supressor? what
stock? what top?

I bought a Bushmaster 16" carbine "Patrolman" model with the A3 top,
collapsible stock. Yes it has a flash supressor. I didn't like the
idea of a pinned and welded supressor on the 14" "shorty" model. I'm
looking at optics at the moment. I liked Bushmaster for the chrome
lined barrel, ability to shoot 5.56 and it's known quality
construction. I didn't like the fact Colt uses non standard pins which
would make swapping stuff impossible. I got a hellava deal from a
kitchen table FFL dealer in Virginia. $860. MSRP was $1230. I'll
drive an hour to save almost four hundred bucks. On top of that I
ordered it from a distributor (who shipped to the retail dealer) that
gives a lifetime warranty. If it ever breaks they send you a new one
after a phone call. You get the new one and then ship them the broken
one. http://www.galleryofguns.com/