Ringmaster wrote:
Anybody who does not own a weapon after seeing what happened in New
Orleans when cops are not available is a fool. I purchased an AR15 for
my "when the **** hits the fan" weapon. I also bought enough magazines
and ammo to hold off the criminal element for days until law
enforcement gets back on line. They will move on to easier pickins
after only a minute of trying to get into my house.

So...just what East Coast disaster are you waiting for? The mammoth
tsunami?

"katy" wrote in


So...just what East Coast disaster are you waiting for? The mammoth
tsunami?

Even worse. Bobsprit: Escape from New York.

So...just what East Coast disaster are you waiting for? The mammoth
tsunami?


Bob Crantz wrote:
Even worse. Bobsprit: Escape from New York.


That's one a-them zombie movies iddn't it?

DSK

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"katy" wrote in


So...just what East Coast disaster are you waiting for?
The mammoth
tsunami?

Even worse. Bobsprit: Escape from New York.


He won't fit through the tunnel!

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"katy" wrote in


So...just what East Coast disaster are you waiting for? The mammoth
tsunami?

Even worse. Bobsprit: Escape from New York.

Lock and load.

Max

Read if you don't want your rifle to go KABOOM.

http://www.winchester.com/lawenforce...spx?storyid=11

"Ringmaster" wrote in message
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Read if you don't want your rifle to go KABOOM.

http://www.winchester.com/lawenforce...spx?storyid=11


It didn't mention that military chamber are also .010" oversize in diameter
to allow for better case extraction.

It also does not mention the bullet weight. The 45 grain bullet is much
shorter than a 65 grain bullet. If you were to seat the 45 gr bullet to the
specificed length given in the article it would not be a mil spec round.

That article is just an attempt to disclaim liability.

Glory!

"Ringmaster" wrote in message
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Read if you don't want your rifle to go KABOOM.

http://www.winchester.com/lawenforce...spx?storyid=11


Here's your difference in bullet length as a function of weight:

http://matrix.dumpshock.com/raygun/basics/pmrb.html

http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/i...56mm_ammo.html



You can test your ammo by chambering it and see if any rifling marks appear
on the bullet and see if the overall length of the round is reduced.

That Winchester warning only applies to heavier bullets because the ogive is
blunter and the bullet is longer.


Hosanna!

That Winchester warning only applies to heavier bullets because the
ogive is
blunter and the bullet is longer.

That's only the Winchester statement. They are not the only ones who
speak on the topic. Read the SAAMI website. Anybody that tells you
there is no difference between a 223 and a 5.56 doesn't know what they
are talking about. Once again ...... SAAMI states that it is an unsafe
practice to shoot 5.56 in a gun that is only designes to shoot 223.
They are the experts.

In article . com,
Ringmaster wrote:

That Winchester warning only applies to heavier bullets because the
ogive is
blunter and the bullet is longer.

That's only the Winchester statement. They are not the only ones who
speak on the topic. Read the SAAMI website. Anybody that tells you
there is no difference between a 223 and a 5.56 doesn't know what they
are talking about.

External case dimensions are interchangeable.

Once again ...... SAAMI states that it is an unsafe
practice to shoot 5.56 in a gun that is only designes to shoot 223.
They are the experts.

Right, fer sure, uh huh, all them reloaders and reloading manuals speak
from pure ignorance, uh huh, ok........

How many rounds you fired thru that new toy of yours yet?

You're missing a couple points. First, IIRC your toy is chambered for
5.56, so firing 223 Rem is perfectly safe. Second, IIRC 5.56 NATO mil
spec ammo is exclusively FMJ to comply with the international
protocols. On that one I could be wrong, but all the specific 5.56 ammo
I've ever seen has been FMJ.

Flogged this one to death. You're clutching at one poor straw to avoid
looking like a complete ignoramus, whereas I'm happy to concede that
SAAMI recommend not firing 5.56 NATO in a 223 Rem chamber. Many do,
have & will, tho, and I doubt you can find a single example of a rifle
blowing up as a consequence. Frankly I don't care enough to x-post this
to rec.guns and ask, but be my guest.......

Meanwhile, go learn how to shoot your new toy and more importantly,
when *not* to shoot it. Everyone will be safer and happier.

PDW