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I purposely don't know much about the keelboat
training because I think it's kind of goofy. But, I'm 100% behind US SAILING's small boat training. As the director of a sailing center, I require all my instructors to have SBSI level I and all my coaches to have level II. I know every aspect of the training they've received. I also have a great deal of respect for Rich Jepsen. He has done well in leading the training committee in rewriting the level II training and they are almost done the rewrite of the level I and Start Sailing Right. No, US SAILING isn't perfect, but I think it does well with it's small staff and volunteers. S. "Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ... : : "Jean Pudl" wrote : : I do wonder how autonomous the "commercial" sail training committee is. : The impression I've had (based on little real evidence) was that it was : created by and for one group of schools because they didn't want to pay : ASA for an "official" piece of paper. : : Correct. It started with three school in the SF Bay area. The Training : Chairman owns one of these schools. He has several of the IT's on : his staff and in his back pocket. He pays there expenses and owns : their votes. One of them should be fired from his position as an IT : on ethics charges. : : I have some hope the Training Chair will implement some changes. : However, nearly everything I've discussed with him has been brushed : off. I am unwilling to travel to their event at my expense just to be : ignored after I'm gone. : : I dropped my membership and asked for my certification money back. : Which reminds me, I need to write them about that again. I'll have to : send it certified mail this time. They gave me a "screw you" on the : telephone when last I called them. : : Does this make any difference to the student? Does it make any difference : to the charter companies? : : Nope. : : Actually, it seems it only makes a difference to the instructors who have : to go through the process of being certified by one or the other, or both. : Just curious, when someone pays $400 for a basic keelboat course, how much : of that goes back to ASA or USSa? : : Schools pay a flat rate for membership. They have to join to be competitive : now that the "Certification" paper is what they are selling. Students feel : the paper means something and don't understand it is the skills that are : important and the paper is meaningless. : : Student fees include book costs, tests, and the log book. I'll can only : guess what the total is. : : Insurance is a muddy issue. Instructor are forced to pay for insurance. : This is a scam since the schools already have insurance. bogUS Sailing : both claims this fee is both insurance and not for insurance, but insists : instructors pay it anyway to be recertified. I lost my cool over this : last year. How can they say it is and that it isn't for insurance? What : hogwash! I want a written answer on this one. : : When I signed up the only requirement for recertification was up to date : First Aid and CPR certifications. Now a bogus insurance fee is attached. : Again, they say it is not for insurance, but that is what it pays for--so : that : is what it is. Try to get a straight answer out of them on that one. And : they won't put and answer down on paper either! : : : As to the "governing body" issue, this is a byproduct of the Olympic : Committee process, where one and only one group (and I assume it must be : non-profit) must be designated as the governing body for each sport, and : is responsible for the Olympic and Pan-American teams, plus certain other : functions. For better or worse, USSailing is the organization the fits : this role. : : I don't think it is perfect, but it works, and you get something for your : money--race committees. However, I refuse to take a Safety at Sea : seminar from someone who knows less about it than I, when I know : the reason they won't place people out of such things is because of : the profits they make on these courses. I'd prefer to race unofficially : and display a "Boycott USSailing.org" decal on my boat, and offer to : take only it off if they pay me. : : Did you know someone recently proposed raising the grievance fee : to raise more money at US Sailing? How could they even consider : such a thing. In the spirit of fairness there should not be any fee : associated with filing a grievance! Screw them. What a bunch of : asshole. It is clear US Sailing is all about money, not about improving : the sport. : : I agree with Doug that there is an appearance that they support : and recognize certain sailor that are "in". Those can do no wrong. : The more awards the heap on them, the more valuable they are to : the organization. It's like blowing up a balloon. There is little to : back it up but what was already there. : : All of the behind the scenes ego trips, back stabbing, conflicts of : interest, power plays, pseudo-scandals, etc. seem to be par for the course : with large (or small) non-profits. As opposed to for-profits which have : the same mishigas, but its called "business." : : I disagree. Such an organization should have a standard of excellence. : : I'd prefer to see US Sailing have delegates that actually represent : members. If I can sign up 1000 members I could then represent them : and fight their agendas. Does anyone want to be first to sign my list? : I'd love to battle US Sailing in their den. I'd love to fight to make them : change the ridiculous way they operate. They are so inept. : : |
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