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Bob Crantz March 16th 06 02:54 AM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 
Lots of batting practice:

http://tinyurl.com/o9owv


Amen!



Maxprop March 16th 06 04:56 AM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
. ..
Lots of batting practice:

http://tinyurl.com/o9owv


The brutal murder of harp seal pups still evokes a visceral reaction after
all these years. Think how much better the US baseball team would be if we
could bash the skulls of those Canadian hunters. I'm betting Dusty Baker
could probably raise the Cubs' team average by .200.

Max



Martin Baxter March 17th 06 02:57 PM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 
Maxprop wrote:

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
. ..
Lots of batting practice:

http://tinyurl.com/o9owv


The brutal murder of harp seal pups still evokes a visceral reaction after
all these years. Think how much better the US baseball team would be if we
could bash the skulls of those Canadian hunters. I'm betting Dusty Baker
could probably raise the Cubs' team average by .200.

Max


Brutal murder? My ass! It's no worse than what we do to millions of
pigs and cows every year.

You do realize that nobody has taken a white coat in over twenty years?

Cheers
Marty

Joe March 17th 06 03:28 PM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 
Whats the difference if it's a white coat or not? Just a few weeks
time.

But culling the heard may be the best way to preserve and strengthen
the species.And the hunters may be doing more to preserve and protect
the seals than any others.

I would rather see laws restricting the age to one yr + before the
seals can be killed, but the russians women do not like scars on thier
pelts, they prefer soft as a babies bottom furs.

I would imagine Max might cut down on his big macs and steaks if he
spent a day at a slaughter house. Not much difference in a club and a
hydralic ram.

Joe


Martin Baxter March 17th 06 04:11 PM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 
Joe wrote:


I would imagine Max might cut down on his big macs and steaks if he
spent a day at a slaughter house. Not much difference in a club and a
hydralic ram.


Indeed! My wife's father used to do it with a sledge, but he was Irish
and likely drunk at the time!

For sure most people wouldn't touch anything that said "Mechanically
separated", means they used pressure washer to scour the flesh of the
bones and then strained the bigger pieces out of the slurry to make into
hot-dogs.

Cheers
Marty

Maxprop March 18th 06 12:37 AM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
. ..
Lots of batting practice:

http://tinyurl.com/o9owv


The brutal murder of harp seal pups still evokes a visceral reaction
after
all these years. Think how much better the US baseball team would be if
we
could bash the skulls of those Canadian hunters. I'm betting Dusty Baker
could probably raise the Cubs' team average by .200.

Max


Brutal murder? My ass! It's no worse than what we do to millions of
pigs and cows every year.


Hardly. Most domesticated farm animals slaughtered for food and hides are
sacrificed with a device termed a "humane killer," which is little more than
a gun that blows the brains to mush instantly, obviating pain on the part of
the animal. The animal is generally dead before it hits the ground. The
harp seal thugs club the poor things until they are immobile, but often not
dead. The pups lie there, some for hours, dying in agony, having been
live-scalped. And they leave the fur-stripped carcasses to rot on the snow.

You do realize that nobody has taken a white coat in over twenty years?


Your point? They are still clubbing the pups to death in an inhumane way.
The problem is only partly the Canadian seal "hunters." The European market
for such furs is the other part.

Max



Maxprop March 18th 06 12:42 AM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Whats the difference if it's a white coat or not? Just a few weeks
time.

But culling the heard may be the best way to preserve and strengthen
the species.And the hunters may be doing more to preserve and protect
the seals than any others.

I would rather see laws restricting the age to one yr + before the
seals can be killed, but the russians women do not like scars on thier
pelts, they prefer soft as a babies bottom furs.

I would imagine Max might cut down on his big macs and steaks if he
spent a day at a slaughter house. Not much difference in a club and a
hydralic ram.


The whole of North America could get by on three or four steers a year if
everyone ate as little beef as I do. But there is a huge difference between
a club and your hydraulic ram (not sure where those are used, but the
slaughterhouses I've seen use guns with light explosive-charge bullets).
The clubbed seals die a lingering, painful death, while the sacrificed
steers die instantly.

Max



Maxprop March 18th 06 03:49 AM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 

"Mys Terry" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:42:51 GMT, "Maxprop" wrote:


"Joe" wrote in message
groups.com...
Whats the difference if it's a white coat or not? Just a few weeks
time.

But culling the heard may be the best way to preserve and strengthen
the species.And the hunters may be doing more to preserve and protect
the seals than any others.

I would rather see laws restricting the age to one yr + before the
seals can be killed, but the russians women do not like scars on thier
pelts, they prefer soft as a babies bottom furs.

I would imagine Max might cut down on his big macs and steaks if he
spent a day at a slaughter house. Not much difference in a club and a
hydralic ram.


The whole of North America could get by on three or four steers a year if
everyone ate as little beef as I do.


So, you either don't know how much beef is on an average steer, you don't
know
the population of North America, or you are REALLY bad at math.

Is this another one of your "theories"?


My current theory is that you are reading-impaired. Re-read my sentence and
figure it out for yourself. Hint: I haven't eaten any beef in over a year.
My estimate of three or four steers was a little high based on that.

Max



Capt. JG March 18th 06 08:30 AM

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It's a fact, not a theory. :-)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Mys Terry" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:42:51 GMT, "Maxprop"
wrote:


"Joe" wrote in message
egroups.com...
Whats the difference if it's a white coat or not? Just a few weeks
time.

But culling the heard may be the best way to preserve and strengthen
the species.And the hunters may be doing more to preserve and protect
the seals than any others.

I would rather see laws restricting the age to one yr + before the
seals can be killed, but the russians women do not like scars on thier
pelts, they prefer soft as a babies bottom furs.

I would imagine Max might cut down on his big macs and steaks if he
spent a day at a slaughter house. Not much difference in a club and a
hydralic ram.

The whole of North America could get by on three or four steers a year if
everyone ate as little beef as I do.


So, you either don't know how much beef is on an average steer, you don't
know
the population of North America, or you are REALLY bad at math.

Is this another one of your "theories"?


My current theory is that you are reading-impaired. Re-read my sentence
and figure it out for yourself. Hint: I haven't eaten any beef in over a
year. My estimate of three or four steers was a little high based on that.

Max




Joe March 18th 06 01:36 PM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 
You're wasting your time responding to the coward Max.

Joe


Maxprop March 18th 06 10:55 PM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
You're wasting your time responding to the coward Max.


Exactamento. You notice I didn't respond to his last idiotic remark. I
normally ignore him.

Max



Joe March 19th 06 04:37 AM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 
the little Faggot boy said:

"Oh! I'm just DEVASTATED"

Yes you are... You crave attention queer boy, that why you're using my
wifes name now. It's clear as glass for everyone to see... you little
depraved cock sucking ass rimming **** drinking child molesting ****
eating loser.

And yes you are devastated, in losing mamma... huh boy? Still mad at
God are you? No skirt to run and hide behind anymore...... huh mommas
boy? You're flopping around here like a amberjack on a hot steel
deck...with that big chip on your shoulder is the biggest laugh
everyone gets here. Face it fat boy...you have lost it. You are
nothing but a queer little pansie.

Go ahead ask anyone here Mr Can Swallow......everyone here will tell
you what a loser you are.

Joe
Your Owner


Capt. Rob March 19th 06 04:58 AM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 
Indeed, My mom is a rotting corpse now, and I'm OK with it.

This God thing is just way to much for you to handle. I know I'm
superior to that fake Jesus guy.

If people want to pray, then they should pray to me.

RB
35s5
NY


Peter Wiley March 20th 06 11:50 PM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 
In article et,
Maxprop wrote:

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
. ..
Lots of batting practice:

http://tinyurl.com/o9owv

The brutal murder of harp seal pups still evokes a visceral reaction
after
all these years. Think how much better the US baseball team would be if
we
could bash the skulls of those Canadian hunters. I'm betting Dusty Baker
could probably raise the Cubs' team average by .200.

Max


Brutal murder? My ass! It's no worse than what we do to millions of
pigs and cows every year.


Hardly. Most domesticated farm animals slaughtered for food and hides are
sacrificed with a device termed a "humane killer," which is little more than
a gun that blows the brains to mush instantly, obviating pain on the part of
the animal. The animal is generally dead before it hits the ground.


Pretty true, Max, except - have you ever been in an abbatoir? Seen the
slaughter line? Seen how the beasts are handled *before* they even get
there?

I have. I wrote software for a research project dealing with feedlots
and spent a lot of time close up & personal with all of this stuff.
That was 10 years ago and I haven't forgotten it. You haven't a clue of
just how much suffering and fear those beasts go through prior to their
quick and painless death.

You're making a really, really bad comparison between
institutionalised, factory slaughter and clubbing cute little seals to
death.

Both are abhorrent.

PDW

Maxprop March 21st 06 02:54 AM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article et,
Maxprop wrote:

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...


Brutal murder? My ass! It's no worse than what we do to millions of
pigs and cows every year.


Hardly. Most domesticated farm animals slaughtered for food and hides
are
sacrificed with a device termed a "humane killer," which is little more
than
a gun that blows the brains to mush instantly, obviating pain on the part
of
the animal. The animal is generally dead before it hits the ground.


Pretty true, Max, except - have you ever been in an abbatoir? Seen the
slaughter line? Seen how the beasts are handled *before* they even get
there?

I have. I wrote software for a research project dealing with feedlots
and spent a lot of time close up & personal with all of this stuff.
That was 10 years ago and I haven't forgotten it. You haven't a clue of
just how much suffering and fear those beasts go through prior to their
quick and painless death.


Actually I have. I've watched the process at three separate slaughter
houses, and yes it ain't pretty. But it's hardly clubbing the animals,
skinning them while still alive, and allowing them to die in agony. What is
even more disgusting is that the infant harp seals have no reason to
mistrust the hunters, so they eagerly approach them. After the pups are
clubbed and skinned, they bay pitifully for up to an hour as they slowly
bleed out. The mothers typically hover over their dying pups, trying in
vain to comfort them. It's cruel and inhumane.

You're making a really, really bad comparison between
institutionalised, factory slaughter and clubbing cute little seals to
death.


S'cuse me? I didn't make that comparison--Martin B. did.

Both are abhorrent.


Perhaps, but the differences are profound. Perhaps you should view a harp
seal harvest before making such ridiculous claims.

Max



Bob Crantz March 21st 06 02:41 PM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article et,
Maxprop wrote:

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
. ..
Lots of batting practice:

http://tinyurl.com/o9owv

The brutal murder of harp seal pups still evokes a visceral reaction
after
all these years. Think how much better the US baseball team would be
if
we
could bash the skulls of those Canadian hunters. I'm betting Dusty
Baker
could probably raise the Cubs' team average by .200.

Max

Brutal murder? My ass! It's no worse than what we do to millions of
pigs and cows every year.


Hardly. Most domesticated farm animals slaughtered for food and hides
are
sacrificed with a device termed a "humane killer," which is little more
than
a gun that blows the brains to mush instantly, obviating pain on the part
of
the animal. The animal is generally dead before it hits the ground.


Pretty true, Max, except - have you ever been in an abbatoir? Seen the
slaughter line? Seen how the beasts are handled *before* they even get
there?

I have. I wrote software for a research project dealing with feedlots
and spent a lot of time close up & personal with all of this stuff.
That was 10 years ago and I haven't forgotten it. You haven't a clue of
just how much suffering and fear those beasts go through prior to their
quick and painless death.

You're making a really, really bad comparison between
institutionalised, factory slaughter and clubbing cute little seals to
death.

Both are abhorrent.

PDW


Great point!

That's why hunting is more humane than a slaughterhouse.

The anti-hunters haven't a clue!

Glory!



Capt.Mooron March 21st 06 03:04 PM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 

"Maxprop" wrote in message

Actually I have. I've watched the process at three separate slaughter
houses, and yes it ain't pretty. But it's hardly clubbing the animals,
skinning them while still alive, and allowing them to die in agony. What
is even more disgusting is that the infant harp seals have no reason to
mistrust the hunters, so they eagerly approach them. After the pups are
clubbed and skinned, they bay pitifully for up to an hour as they slowly
bleed out. The mothers typically hover over their dying pups, trying in
vain to comfort them. It's cruel and inhumane.


Although I am against any commercial harvesting endeavours... including
commercial fishing... your arguement seems based on second hand information
selectively quoted from animal rights groups. The clubbing of "white coats"
ended in 1987. If fish were cute and cuddly... would you protest the
indiscriminate slaughter of entire schools numbering in the tens of
thousands... subjecting them to massive decompression and slow axphyxiation
or live skinning and gutting?

You have obviously never been to a slaughter house since to the best of my
knowledge they do not provide "tours" nor allow the public access to the
area. Next thing you'll be telling me they gave you a tour of a Chicken Farm
producing eggs..... see if you can even get access to the building. My
roomate was working at a slaughterhouse in Edmonton as supervisor. I
actually saw what the operations were. In my opinion your comments are at
best naieve and obtained second hand.

Max... you have never viewed a harp seal harvest.... nor have you been in a
slaughter house... maybe you thought the packing plant was where the did the
killing?

There is no major difference between a commercial slaughter house and a seal
harvest or the indiscriminate netting by commercial fishing Max.... large
scale commercial harvest of any animal is prone to adhere to the bottom
line... expediency, efficency, profit!

So lay off the skinned pups baying woefully on an ice flow in minus 35c for
hours as their mothers attempted to comfort them ****! Try logic for a spell
instaed of your emotionally based second hand propoganda that you have never
actually witnessed. Think Flash Freeze.... Seriously... engage your brain
before your mouth.

Now I'll repeat this since you "Save the Seals" people are subject to
selective hearing problems.... If you want to stop sounding like an
Hysterical 18 year old PETA activist... try some common sense in your
arguments next time.

Ban the Seal Harvest.... Ban Large Scale Commercial Farming.... Ban All
Whaling of any species.... and All Commercial Fishing in North American
Waters... but most important... Ban Whiney Ill-Informed Suburban Dwelling
Green Activists who depend on all of the above. That's what I'm in favour
of.

Let the small family owned inshore fishermen ply their trade in peace but
take out the mega corps raping the ocean. Let the small scale farmer provide
for the packing plants.

Seals... "cute"... Bwahahahahahahaa... you've never been near a seal Max.
[Okay maybe at the zoo]. I've killed several and eaten the flesh raw.

BTW- This year the ice conditions will contribute to the drowning deaths of
more white coats than the last 5 year quota combined.

CM


You're making a really, really bad comparison between
institutionalised, factory slaughter and clubbing cute little seals to
death.


S'cuse me? I didn't make that comparison--Martin B. did.

Both are abhorrent.


Perhaps, but the differences are profound. Perhaps you should view a harp
seal harvest before making such ridiculous claims.

Max




Joe March 21st 06 03:18 PM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 
BTW- This year the ice conditions will contribute to the drowning
deaths of more white coats than the last 5 year quota combined.

CM

Can you collect the dead ones that drowned and sell the pelts? Or do
the killer whales eat em raw like you do?

Joe


Bob Crantz March 21st 06 03:50 PM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:CBUTf.7374$_Q.6355@edtnps89...

.. but most important... Ban Whiney Ill-Informed Suburban Dwelling
Green Activists who depend on all of the above. That's what I'm in favour
of.


Brilliant!

Seals... "cute"... Bwahahahahahahaa... you've never been near a seal Max.
[Okay maybe at the zoo]. I've killed several and eaten the flesh raw.



Manly! Did you eat the liver?


BTW- This year the ice conditions will contribute to the drowning deaths
of more white coats than the last 5 year quota combined.



Don't let facts get in the way of emotion!


CM




DSK March 21st 06 03:57 PM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 
Martin Baxter wrote:
Huh? If it's global warming, Green Peace is full of ****, if it's seals
then Green Peaces' line is Gospel?


Right.

One of the funniest things about neoconservatives is that
they live in a constant state of self-contradiction.


Would you deny the noble Red Man his traditional way of living?


Yes.

After all, I'm not being allowed to continue my traditional
and culurally hallowed way of life. Why should anybody else,
dammit?

DSK


Capt.Mooron March 21st 06 04:31 PM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message

Manly! Did you eat the liver?


Matter of fact.. No.... but I ate raw caribou kidney! I also drank the blood
from the heart of a freshly killed Caribou as a ruse to get my Inhuit
friends to try... once they did..... I confessed that Kablunaks didn't
really do that and I was just getting them back for the raw kidney! :-)

CM



What you don't want to eat is Polar Bear Liver... apparently the Vitamin E
content can be toxic to humans.



katy March 21st 06 05:07 PM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 
DSK wrote:
Martin Baxter wrote:
Huh? If it's global warming, Green Peace is full of ****, if it's seals
then Green Peaces' line is Gospel?


Right.

One of the funniest things about neoconservatives is that they live in a
constant state of self-contradiction.


Would you deny the noble Red Man his traditional way of living?


Yes.

After all, I'm not being allowed to continue my traditional and
culurally hallowed way of life. Why should anybody else, dammit?

DSK


I concur....if the noble Red Man can do what he wants, then I should
be able to partake in certain Druidic sacrificial rituals....

Vito March 21st 06 06:08 PM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 
"Capt.Mooron" wrote
....... I've killed several and eaten the flesh raw.

I heard it tastes alot like bald eagle or california condor ....



Martin Baxter March 21st 06 06:10 PM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 
DSK wrote:

Martin Baxter wrote:
Huh? If it's global warming, Green Peace is full of ****, if it's seals
then Green Peaces' line is Gospel?


Right.

One of the funniest things about neoconservatives is that
they live in a constant state of self-contradiction.

Would you deny the noble Red Man his traditional way of living?


Yes.

After all, I'm not being allowed to continue my traditional
and culurally hallowed way of life. Why should anybody else,
dammit?


Sorry Doug, guess you couldn't see my tongue stuck in my cheek. My
brother was once geo-surveying for Eldorado Nuclear in northern Alberta,
they had a crew of local Indians to cut line for them. One of the
Indians dogs got into a porcupine, or rather the other way around, the
Indians kicked the dog out of their camp and refused to feed it. My
brother took the dog into his camp, took two days to remove all the
quills and another two weeks of TLC to get the dog healthy, de-flead,
de-ticked, well fed. One of the Indians came along and demanded his dog
back! I could go on with other stories of senseless slaughter of
caribou and elk, "Noble Red Man" indeed!

Cheers
Marty

DSK


DSK March 21st 06 06:11 PM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 
Manly! Did you eat the liver?


Capt.Mooron wrote:
Matter of fact.. No.... but I ate raw caribou kidney!


Gee that sounds lovely.
And you wonder why people turn down your dinner invitations!

... I also drank the blood
from the heart of a freshly killed Caribou as a ruse to get my Inhuit
friends to try... once they did..... I confessed that Kablunaks didn't
really do that and I was just getting them back for the raw kidney! :-)


Now *that* was funny.

Did you eat the eyeballs?
Excellent source of food revenge, I talked a buddy of mine
into eating raccoon eyeballs once. Then I made fun of him
for years, in fact in our circle his nickname is still 'Bandit.'

There are a lot of rednecks around who brag about having
sampled the meat of various weird & unlikely critters. It's
a strange thing to brag about.



What you don't want to eat is Polar Bear Liver... apparently the Vitamin E
content can be toxic to humans.


Believe me, if I meet a polar bear, the last thing I am
likely to do is dig out his liver. I just hope the polar
bear realizes exactly how toxic *I* am.

DSK


DSK March 21st 06 06:50 PM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 
After all, I'm not being allowed to continue my traditional
and culurally hallowed way of life. Why should anybody else,
dammit?



Martin Baxter wrote:
Sorry Doug, guess you couldn't see my tongue stuck in my cheek.


Actually, I'm pleased to see that you & katysails took my
statement seriously!

... My
brother was once geo-surveying for Eldorado Nuclear in northern Alberta,
they had a crew of local Indians to cut line for them. One of the
Indians dogs got into a porcupine, or rather the other way around, the
Indians kicked the dog out of their camp and refused to feed it. My
brother took the dog into his camp, took two days to remove all the
quills and another two weeks of TLC to get the dog healthy, de-flead,
de-ticked, well fed.


Yeah but look at all the toxic chemicals he probably used on
the poor dog (that was sarcasm).

... One of the Indians came along and demanded his dog
back!


Yeah right... been there too.
"This ain't your dog no more" is about the best answer I
could come up with.

In truth, a few times I have offered to let people reclaim
their dog, if the dog would walk away from me & toward them
when they called it. Didn't happen, not even once.

It is possible to bully a dog, but is impossible to lie to them.


... I could go on with other stories of senseless slaughter of
caribou and elk, "Noble Red Man" indeed!



Well, they lived under different ecological (and economic)
imperatives. It worked for them... the attempt to continue
that way of life is a disaster on almost every front.

DSK


katy March 21st 06 07:28 PM

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Vito wrote:
"Capt.Mooron" wrote
....... I've killed several and eaten the flesh raw.

I heard it tastes alot like bald eagle or california condor ....


Oh? You mean like chicken?

katy March 21st 06 07:32 PM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 
Mys Terry wrote:
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:10:08 -0500, Martin Baxter
wrote:

DSK wrote:
Martin Baxter wrote:
Huh? If it's global warming, Green Peace is full of ****, if it's seals
then Green Peaces' line is Gospel?

Right.

One of the funniest things about neoconservatives is that
they live in a constant state of self-contradiction.

Would you deny the noble Red Man his traditional way of living?

Yes.

After all, I'm not being allowed to continue my traditional
and culurally hallowed way of life. Why should anybody else,
dammit?

Sorry Doug, guess you couldn't see my tongue stuck in my cheek. My
brother was once geo-surveying for Eldorado Nuclear in northern Alberta,
they had a crew of local Indians to cut line for them. One of the
Indians dogs got into a porcupine, or rather the other way around, the
Indians kicked the dog out of their camp and refused to feed it. My
brother took the dog into his camp, took two days to remove all the
quills and another two weeks of TLC to get the dog healthy, de-flead,
de-ticked, well fed. One of the Indians came along and demanded his dog
back! I could go on with other stories of senseless slaughter of
caribou and elk, "Noble Red Man" indeed!

Cheers
Marty
DSK


Not to mention the tired old lie about "The Indians used every part of
the buffalo". Yes, they probably could find a use for every part of
the buffalo, but mostly they killed herds enmasse by stampeding them
off of cliffs Then they carved up whatever small amount they could
carry from the pile, and left the rest. Kill 100 buffalo to get the
meat from one or two. They didn't use every part of every buffalo they
killed. Not even remotely close.


Sort of like WIld Bill Hickok, Teddy Roosevelt and other "hunters"
of the time who slaughtered the last of the buffalo herds for "sport"?

Capt.Mooron March 21st 06 11:20 PM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 

"Vito" wrote in message
...
"Capt.Mooron" wrote
....... I've killed several and eaten the flesh raw.

I heard it tastes alot like bald eagle or california condor ....


I haven't eaten either eagle nor condor flesh so I can't comment. It
certainly has a taste of it's own. I have also eaten Muktuk... [Beluga Whale
Blubber].... raw of course and freshly killed.

CM



Scotty March 22nd 06 12:39 AM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 
Next thing ya know, they'll want to ban boiling lobsters.

Scotty

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
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"Maxprop" wrote in message

Actually I have. I've watched the process at three

separate slaughter
houses, and yes it ain't pretty. But it's hardly

clubbing the animals,
skinning them while still alive, and allowing them to

die in agony. What
is even more disgusting is that the infant harp seals

have no reason to
mistrust the hunters, so they eagerly approach them.

After the pups are
clubbed and skinned, they bay pitifully for up to an

hour as they slowly
bleed out. The mothers typically hover over their dying

pups, trying in
vain to comfort them. It's cruel and inhumane.


Although I am against any commercial harvesting

endeavours... including
commercial fishing... your arguement seems based on second

hand information
selectively quoted from animal rights groups. The clubbing

of "white coats"
ended in 1987. If fish were cute and cuddly... would you

protest the
indiscriminate slaughter of entire schools numbering in

the tens of
thousands... subjecting them to massive decompression and

slow axphyxiation
or live skinning and gutting?

You have obviously never been to a slaughter house since

to the best of my
knowledge they do not provide "tours" nor allow the public

access to the
area. Next thing you'll be telling me they gave you a tour

of a Chicken Farm
producing eggs..... see if you can even get access to the

building. My
roomate was working at a slaughterhouse in Edmonton as

supervisor. I
actually saw what the operations were. In my opinion your

comments are at
best naieve and obtained second hand.

Max... you have never viewed a harp seal harvest.... nor

have you been in a
slaughter house... maybe you thought the packing plant was

where the did the
killing?

There is no major difference between a commercial

slaughter house and a seal
harvest or the indiscriminate netting by commercial

fishing Max.... large
scale commercial harvest of any animal is prone to adhere

to the bottom
line... expediency, efficency, profit!

So lay off the skinned pups baying woefully on an ice flow

in minus 35c for
hours as their mothers attempted to comfort them ****! Try

logic for a spell
instaed of your emotionally based second hand propoganda

that you have never
actually witnessed. Think Flash Freeze.... Seriously...

engage your brain
before your mouth.

Now I'll repeat this since you "Save the Seals" people are

subject to
selective hearing problems.... If you want to stop

sounding like an
Hysterical 18 year old PETA activist... try some common

sense in your
arguments next time.

Ban the Seal Harvest.... Ban Large Scale Commercial

Farming.... Ban All
Whaling of any species.... and All Commercial Fishing in

North American
Waters... but most important... Ban Whiney Ill-Informed

Suburban Dwelling
Green Activists who depend on all of the above. That's

what I'm in favour
of.

Let the small family owned inshore fishermen ply their

trade in peace but
take out the mega corps raping the ocean. Let the small

scale farmer provide
for the packing plants.

Seals... "cute"... Bwahahahahahahaa... you've never been

near a seal Max.
[Okay maybe at the zoo]. I've killed several and eaten the

flesh raw.

BTW- This year the ice conditions will contribute to the

drowning deaths of
more white coats than the last 5 year quota combined.

CM


You're making a really, really bad comparison between
institutionalised, factory slaughter and clubbing cute

little seals to
death.


S'cuse me? I didn't make that comparison--Martin B.

did.

Both are abhorrent.


Perhaps, but the differences are profound. Perhaps you

should view a harp
seal harvest before making such ridiculous claims.

Max






Scotty March 22nd 06 12:40 AM

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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
...

Great point!

That's why hunting is more humane than a slaughterhouse.



*If* you're a good shot.

Scotty












The anti-hunters haven't a clue!

Glory!





Scotty March 22nd 06 01:00 AM

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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
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"Vito" wrote in message
...
"Capt.Mooron" wrote
....... I've killed several and eaten the flesh raw.

I heard it tastes alot like bald eagle or california

condor ....


I haven't eaten either eagle nor condor flesh so I can't

comment. It
certainly has a taste of it's own. I have also eaten

Muktuk... [Beluga Whale
Blubber].... raw of course and freshly killed.



Ever tried chipmunk testicles? They're great for dipping in
cocktail sauce .

SBV





Capt.Mooron March 22nd 06 01:02 AM

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"Scotty" wrote in message

Ever tried chipmunk testicles? They're great for dipping in
cocktail sauce .


I can't say as I have..... but it might produce another use for porcupine
quills... as a skewer... and I have eaten Porcupine... but not raw.

CM



Maxprop March 22nd 06 01:30 AM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:CBUTf.7374$_Q.6355@edtnps89...

You have obviously never been to a slaughter house since to the best of my
knowledge they do not provide "tours" nor allow the public access to the
area.


When you *assume* such things, you make an *ass* of "*u*. Nuf said. Last
time you contended that I had no knowledge of sword fighting, which was of
course incorrect. Now you're making another such assumption, which is
equally ignorant on your part. One of my closer friends is a retired
veterinarian who part-times as a meat inspector to keep himself out of the
house. I've accompanied him to three slaughterhouses. Now, don't you feel
stupid? You should.

Next thing you'll be telling me they gave you a tour of a Chicken Farm
producing eggs..... see if you can even get access to the building. My
roomate was working at a slaughterhouse in Edmonton as supervisor. I
actually saw what the operations were. In my opinion your comments are at
best naieve and obtained second hand.


In my opinion your opinion is based on little more than ignorant bias.


Max... you have never viewed a harp seal harvest....


Not personally, but the films I've seen of it were more than sufficient.
And I really don't give a rat's ass if they take white coats or not. The
process is inhumane and should be ended or modified. Shoot the animals, or
use humane killers, but to club them, skin them alive, and allow them to
suffer a lingering death is by any reasonable definition inhumane. If you
can't see that, you're morally bankrupt.

nor have you been in a slaughter house... maybe you thought the packing
plant was where the did the killing?


Assumptions, Mooron, really will be your undoing.

There is no major difference between a commercial slaughter house and a
seal harvest or the indiscriminate netting by commercial fishing Max....
large scale commercial harvest of any animal is prone to adhere to the
bottom line... expediency, efficency, profit!


Hogwash. Slaughterhouses kill the animals before they skin and butcher
them. And I can't say I'm fond of butchering fish while they are still
alive. But fish are food, not strictly pelts for wealthy Europeans. The
oceans feed the masses. I'd have no problem with the seal harvests, were
they done humanely.

So lay off the skinned pups baying woefully on an ice flow in minus 35c
for hours as their mothers attempted to comfort them ****! Try logic for a
spell instaed of your emotionally based second hand propoganda that you
have never actually witnessed. Think Flash Freeze.... Seriously... engage
your brain before your mouth.


So, you're saying the film of the harp seal pups, lying in red snow with
their mothers hovering, is a fabrication? Are you contending the filmmakers
dubbed-in the baying of the pups? I wonder how they got the skinned pups to
raise their heads and open their mouths to coincide with the baying sounds
they dubbed.

Now I'll repeat this since you "Save the Seals" people are subject to
selective hearing problems.... If you want to stop sounding like an
Hysterical 18 year old PETA activist... try some common sense in your
arguments next time.


I'm hardly a PETA anything. I oppose that organization at every
opportunity. But the seal harvest is inhumane. Perhaps it is the cute,
dog-like appearance of the pups that makes it so hard to swallow, but there
are other ways to harvest wild animals that insure they don't suffer
needlessly. Fact is, the seal harvesters are too ****ing lazy to employ
those methods. "We've done it that way for decades, and we're not about to
change."

Ban the Seal Harvest.... Ban Large Scale Commercial Farming.... Ban All
Whaling of any species.... and All Commercial Fishing in North American
Waters... but most important... Ban Whiney Ill-Informed Suburban Dwelling
Green Activists who depend on all of the above. That's what I'm in favour
of.


I'm generally in favor of nuking Nova Scotia. g

Let the small family owned inshore fishermen ply their trade in peace but
take out the mega corps raping the ocean. Let the small scale farmer
provide for the packing plants.

Seals... "cute"... Bwahahahahahahaa... you've never been near a seal Max.
[Okay maybe at the zoo]. I've killed several and eaten the flesh raw.


You be da man, Mooron.
Bwaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahah!!!!!!!!!!
What a macho-speaking putz.

BTW- This year the ice conditions will contribute to the drowning deaths
of more white coats than the last 5 year quota combined.


So you're saying that if nature kills off a number of them, it must be okay
to do so by inhumane methods, right? That's just brilliant.

Max



Maxprop March 22nd 06 01:32 AM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
BTW- This year the ice conditions will contribute to the drowning
deaths of more white coats than the last 5 year quota combined.

CM

Can you collect the dead ones that drowned and sell the pelts? Or do
the killer whales eat em raw like you do?


The killer whales are probably more civilized and cook them first.

Max



Maxprop March 22nd 06 01:33 AM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:CBUTf.7374$_Q.6355@edtnps89...

BTW- This year the ice conditions will contribute to the drowning deaths
of more white coats than the last 5 year quota combined.


Hmmm. I thought you said they didn't harvest white coats any longer?

Max



Maxprop March 22nd 06 01:41 AM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...

Huh? If it's global warming, Green Peace is full of ****, if it's seals
then Green Peaces' line is Gospel?


You read selectively, Martin. I admitted to Jon Ganz that I believe global
warming is real and, at least to some extent, caused by the activities of
humans. What I didn't buy was to what extent the enviro-extremists claim it
will affect our climate or way of life.

Would you deny the noble Red Man his traditional way of living?


Are you claiming the "noble Red Man" is incapable of learning humane methods
of seal harvesting? That's incredibly racist on your part, Martin.

Max



Maxprop March 22nd 06 01:42 AM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 

"DSK" wrote in message
...
Martin Baxter wrote:
Huh? If it's global warming, Green Peace is full of ****, if it's seals
then Green Peaces' line is Gospel?


Right.

One of the funniest things about neoconservatives is that they live in a
constant state of self-contradiction.


As opposed to left-wing wackos who are consistently in error.

Max



Maxprop March 22nd 06 01:50 AM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 

"katy" wrote in message
...
DSK wrote:
Martin Baxter wrote:
Huh? If it's global warming, Green Peace is full of ****, if it's seals
then Green Peaces' line is Gospel?


Right.

One of the funniest things about neoconservatives is that they live in a
constant state of self-contradiction.


Would you deny the noble Red Man his traditional way of living?


Yes.

After all, I'm not being allowed to continue my traditional and culurally
hallowed way of life. Why should anybody else, dammit?

DSK


I concur....if the noble Red Man can do what he wants, then I should be
able to partake in certain Druidic sacrificial rituals....


You already do, Katy. I once witnessed you performing such a Druidic ritual
on a swan on the end of a finger pier. g

Max



katy March 22nd 06 03:18 AM

Why Canada's Baseball Team is So Good
 
Maxprop wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
BTW- This year the ice conditions will contribute to the drowning
deaths of more white coats than the last 5 year quota combined.

CM

Can you collect the dead ones that drowned and sell the pelts? Or do
the killer whales eat em raw like you do?


The killer whales are probably more civilized and cook them first.

Max


There's a National Geographic show on orca and seals....orca's play
with their food....just like cats do....was chilling to watch....


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