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"Dave" wrote
That's one of those expressions that truly highlights cultural differences.
Most Jews I know, including my wife, think it most odd that haggling over
price offends Wasp sensibilities. Conversely, a lot of the folks using the
term "Jewing him down" likely never met a Jew in their lives.

It's biblical and at the root of both faiths, as well as a fine joke.

Abraham is lazying in his tent in the noon heat when who should come hiking
across the desert but God himself. Abie quickly invites him in for a veal
sandwich and inquires his destination. "To Sodom and Gomarrah to check out
rumors that the people there are disobeying me, and it that's true to smite
them!" "Oy!" thinks Abie "My slums" and asks God if he would spare his slums
for 50 good souls. God agrees, but Abie knows he can't find 50 so he proceeds to
"jew" God down from 50 to 5 IIRC. But then he can't even produce the 5!

God tells Abie that he really likes him and plans to give him and his
descendents all the land between the two great rivers (most of what's now Iraq)
..... but Abie needs a badge or mark to show that he is God's favorite. Then God
has Abie cut off the end of his penis - and all his sons penises, and so on.
And to this day .....

Thus the perchance for God's chosen People to bargain. It's an integral part of
their beliefs.

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The British may or may not have invented the concentration
camp, but they invented the term.


wrote:
No, they didn't. Two British journalists translated the Spanish
term 'reconcentrado' into English. A reconcentrado was a Spanish
concentration camp used in Cuba in 1896-1898.


OK, thanks for the info.



They also invented the blitzkrieg.


But we never had the sense to use it.

I'd put it somewhat differently: "had the sense not to use
it where inappropriate, and the good fortune not to need it."

DSK

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"Vito" wrote in message

I'm a dyed in the wool Goldwater Conservative

I would like to shake your hand. Goldwater was a great man!

"I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more
efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote
welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to
repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones
that do violence to the Constitution, or that have failed in their purpose,
or that impose on the people an unwarranted financial burden. I will not
attempt to discover whether legislation is 'needed' before I have first
determined whether it is constitutionally permissible. And if I should later
be attacked for neglecting my constituents' interests, I shall reply that I
was informed their main interest is liberty and that in that cause I am
doing the very best I can."

AMEN!!!!

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In article ,
Vito wrote:
"Dave" wrote
That's one of those expressions that truly highlights cultural differences.
Most Jews I know, including my wife, think it most odd that haggling over
price offends Wasp sensibilities. Conversely, a lot of the folks using the
term "Jewing him down" likely never met a Jew in their lives.

It's biblical and at the root of both faiths, as well as a fine joke.

Abraham is lazying in his tent in the noon heat when who should come hiking
across the desert but God himself. Abie quickly invites him in for a veal
sandwich and inquires his destination. "To Sodom and Gomarrah to check out
rumors that the people there are disobeying me, and it that's true to smite
them!" "Oy!" thinks Abie "My slums" and asks God if he would spare his slums
for 50 good souls. God agrees, but Abie knows he can't find 50 so he proceeds to
"jew" God down from 50 to 5 IIRC. But then he can't even produce the 5!

God tells Abie that he really likes him and plans to give him and his
descendents all the land between the two great rivers (most of what's now Iraq)
.... but Abie needs a badge or mark to show that he is God's favorite. Then God
has Abie cut off the end of his penis - and all his sons penises, and so on.
And to this day .....

Thus the perchance for God's chosen People to bargain. It's an integral part of
their beliefs.

Thus, you have no idea what you're talking about. Ever been to Mexico?
They bargin like crazy and expect it. Are they Jews?

It's a racist comment... jewing down. Disgusting.



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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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In article ,
Vito wrote:
"Dave" wrote
That's one of those expressions that truly highlights cultural
differences.
Most Jews I know, including my wife, think it most odd that haggling
over
price offends Wasp sensibilities. Conversely, a lot of the folks using
the
term "Jewing him down" likely never met a Jew in their lives.

It's biblical and at the root of both faiths, as well as a fine joke.

Abraham is lazying in his tent in the noon heat when who should come
hiking
across the desert but God himself. Abie quickly invites him in for a veal
sandwich and inquires his destination. "To Sodom and Gomarrah to check
out
rumors that the people there are disobeying me, and it that's true to
smite
them!" "Oy!" thinks Abie "My slums" and asks God if he would spare his
slums
for 50 good souls. God agrees, but Abie knows he can't find 50 so he
proceeds to
"jew" God down from 50 to 5 IIRC. But then he can't even produce the 5!

God tells Abie that he really likes him and plans to give him and his
descendents all the land between the two great rivers (most of what's now
Iraq)
.... but Abie needs a badge or mark to show that he is God's favorite.
Then God
has Abie cut off the end of his penis - and all his sons penises, and so
on.
And to this day .....

Thus the perchance for God's chosen People to bargain. It's an integral
part of
their beliefs.

Thus, you have no idea what you're talking about. Ever been to Mexico?
They bargin like crazy and expect it. Are they Jews?

It's a racist comment... jewing down. Disgusting.

It's not a racist comment. Jews aren't a race. Mexico has a barter economy,
so haggling is prevelant. So does the Middle East, where Jews originated. I
believe the propensity for some Jews to haggle comes from tradition, passed
down from their ancestry in the Middle East.

Think of the Jewish tailor robots in the Woody Allen movie "Sleeper". "You
want velvet? We got velvet. We got simple, we got complicated. What are you
worried? Drop dead, can't you see I got a customer!"

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Bob Crantz wrote:
It's a racist comment... jewing down. Disgusting.

It's not a racist comment. Jews aren't a race. Mexico has a barter economy,
so haggling is prevelant. So does the Middle East, where Jews originated. I
believe the propensity for some Jews to haggle comes from tradition, passed
down from their ancestry in the Middle East.

By most standards of definition in use today, Jews are a race. In any
case, it's a disgusting comment not worthy of additional discussion.
Anyone who uses such a phrase denegrates an entire people.





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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
Bob Crantz wrote:
It's a racist comment... jewing down. Disgusting.

It's not a racist comment. Jews aren't a race. Mexico has a barter
economy,
so haggling is prevelant. So does the Middle East, where Jews originated.
I
believe the propensity for some Jews to haggle comes from tradition,
passed
down from their ancestry in the Middle East.

By most standards of definition in use today, Jews are a race. In any
case, it's a disgusting comment not worthy of additional discussion.
Anyone who uses such a phrase denegrates an entire people.

A person can be denigrated only by their own choice.

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In article . net,
Bob Crantz wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
Bob Crantz wrote:
It's a racist comment... jewing down. Disgusting.

It's not a racist comment. Jews aren't a race. Mexico has a barter
economy,
so haggling is prevelant. So does the Middle East, where Jews originated.
I
believe the propensity for some Jews to haggle comes from tradition,
passed
down from their ancestry in the Middle East.

By most standards of definition in use today, Jews are a race. In any
case, it's a disgusting comment not worthy of additional discussion.
Anyone who uses such a phrase denegrates an entire people.

A person can be denigrated only by their own choice.

That's very philosphical, but has no basis in reality. Try that with
the wrong crowd, and you're likely to get stomped.



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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote
Thus, you have no idea what you're talking about. Ever been to Mexico?
They bargin like crazy and expect it. Are they Jews?

As do Arabs and many other cultures. I didn't say that Jews were the only
bargainers in the world or even the best or most fervent. I merely pointed out
that bargaining is implicite in their religion.

It's a racist comment... jewing down. Disgusting.

No, it is not, because Jews do not comprise a "race". Nor is it derogatory (you
must have a streak of antisemetism in you that you're ashamed of to think it
is). I know may non-Jews who proudly brag about 'Jewing' others down. Some of
them wisely keep a 'Jew Book' - a record of their income & expenditures.

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote

By most standards of definition in use today, Jews are a race. In any
case, it's a disgusting comment not worthy of additional discussion.
Anyone who uses such a phrase denegrates an entire people.

Most? Maybe in NYC but not in the real world. Judaism is a culture and
religion. Most Jews today are of European stock having lost their semetism by
intermarriage over the millenia.

Denegrates? How about honors?? In a culture that values one's ability to
bargain, having that ability called by the name of your culture would seem a
compliment to me. It is only perjorative in the mind of somebody who thinks
that bargaining is dishonorable .... somebody like you????