Cell phones at sea
 

Hi all,

I am a final year undergraduate student, studying Marine Navigation
(BSc) at the University of Plymouth (UK), conducting a study of the use
of cell phones by recreational boaters. This includes an assessment of
the practices and views of a broad cross section of all recreational
boaters, and I would be very grateful if you would contribute to the
study by taking two minutes to complete a short and anonymous
questionnaire. Please follow the link below to access the
questionnai

http://facultyj.hs.plymouth.ac.uk/cellphone/

Many thanks,

Nick Loewendahl

If you would like a copy of the completed report please email me with
your contact details.

Cell phones at sea
 

I think even a local sailor should carry several types of communication
devices.

We carry:

Cell phone
Fixed VHF
Backup Fixed VHF
Handheld VHF
FRS Radios
Mobile and fixed emergency antennas


RB
35s5
NY

Cell phones at sea
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
I think even a local sailor should carry several types of
communication
devices.

We carry:

Cell phone
Fixed VHF
Backup Fixed VHF
Handheld VHF
FRS Radios
Mobile and fixed emergency antennas



Holy Crap!

Cell phones at sea
 

Scotty wrote:
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...

I think even a local sailor should carry several types of

communication

devices.

We carry:

Cell phone
Fixed VHF
Backup Fixed VHF
Handheld VHF
FRS Radios
Mobile and fixed emergency antennas




Holy Crap!


Hey, he needs that much help...

Cell phones at sea
 

I believe open flames can also be used for distress signals.

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"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
I think even a local sailor should carry several types of
communication
devices.

We carry:

Cell phone
Fixed VHF
Backup Fixed VHF
Handheld VHF
FRS Radios
Mobile and fixed emergency antennas



Holy Crap!

Cell phones at sea
 

"katy" wrote in message
...
Scotty wrote:
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...

I think even a local sailor should carry several types of

communication

devices.

We carry:

Cell phone
Fixed VHF
Backup Fixed VHF
Handheld VHF
FRS Radios
Mobile and fixed emergency antennas




Holy Crap!


Hey, he needs that much help...

Why? If his pizza shoppe doesn't get an order from him at least
every two hours they'll send out a search party.

Scotty

Cell phones at sea
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi all,

I am a final year undergraduate student, studying Marine Navigation
(BSc) at the University of Plymouth (UK), conducting a study of the use
of cell phones by recreational boaters. This includes an assessment of
the practices and views of a broad cross section of all recreational
boaters, and I would be very grateful if you would contribute to the
study by taking two minutes to complete a short and anonymous
questionnaire. Please follow the link below to access the
questionnai

http://facultyj.hs.plymouth.ac.uk/cellphone/


Any money in renting mast space as a mobile tower/repeater?
Scout

Cell phones at sea
 

I wonder why Scotty is so bothered by a boat carrying a toddler also
carrying 6 lbs of extra safety communications gear?


RB
35s5
NY

Cell phones at sea
 

Capt. Rob wrote:
I wonder why Scotty is so bothered by a boat carrying a toddler also
carrying 6 lbs of extra safety communications gear?


RB
35s5
NY

Because it's obsessive..if you're that aftaid something's going to
happen, then do don't him sailing....

Cell phones at sea
 

Because it's obsessive..if you're that aftaid something's going to
happen, then do don't him sailing....

Almost every boat I know of carries a cell phone (because everyone has
one these days), a handheld and a fixed radio. So all I carry that's
"extra" is the spare radio and emergency antennas. I've acquired a few
radios over the last few years, so keeping a spare on board with a
little rollup antenna is not exactly panic in the wings, Katy. The FRS
radios are for fun, in case you thought anyone was going to call for
help on them.


RB
35s5
NY

Cell phones at sea
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
I think even a local sailor should carry several types of
communication
devices.

We carry:

Cell phone
Fixed VHF
Backup Fixed VHF
Handheld VHF
FRS Radios
Mobile and fixed emergency antennas



Holy Crap!

Pretty amazing for a boat that never sees her docklines untied, eh?

Max

Cell phones at sea
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
Because it's obsessive..if you're that aftaid something's going to
happen, then do don't him sailing....

Almost every boat I know of carries a cell phone (because everyone has
one these days), a handheld and a fixed radio. So all I carry that's
"extra" is the spare radio and emergency antennas. I've acquired a few
radios over the last few years, so keeping a spare on board with a
little rollup antenna is not exactly panic in the wings, Katy. The FRS
radios are for fun, in case you thought anyone was going to call for
help on them.

How about SSB, Bubbles? You could contact someone in Kenya if the little
guy needs a diaper change.

Max

Cell phones at sea
 

"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...

"Swab Rob" wrote ...
I think even a local sailor should carry several types of
communication
devices.

We carry:

Cell phone
Fixed VHF
Backup Fixed VHF
Handheld VHF
FRS Radios
Mobile and fixed emergency antennas



Holy Crap!

Pretty amazing for a boat that never sees her docklines untied,
eh?


Yes. the funniest part of the post was the ''local sailor''
comment.
;))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Scotty

Cell phones at sea
 

"katy" wrote in message
...
Capt. Rob wrote:
I wonder why Scotty is so bothered by a boat carrying a
toddler also
carrying 6 lbs of extra safety communications gear?


RB
35s5
NY

Because it's obsessive..if you're that aftaid something's going
to
happen, then do don't him sailing....

He just doesn't get it.

SBV

Cell phones at sea
 

happen, then do don't him sailing....



He just doesn't get it.


And yet we have a nicer boat, sail more often and further, never had an
emergency or injury on board.
Scotty potty, it's you who hasn't got it. Not even a taste of it.


RB
35s5
NY

Cell phones at sea
 

How about SSB, Bubbles? You could contact someone in Kenya if the
little
guy needs a diaper change.


If our cruising range extends next year, and that's our plan, an SSB is
more cheap safety gear worth buying and fun as well.
Scotty is busy crying over this stuff because he can't afford it.

RB
35s5
NY

Cell phones at sea
 

If our cruising range extends next year..."

Yep... no doubt about it... "HF" capability would be most desirable
if cruising off shore any considerable distances.

Needless to say... a communication system linked to satellite would
also be nice... but very expensive for the average cruiser.

73

Bill aka N6TGC

Cell phones at sea
 

Bob, You said you carry the following. Here are my comments.

Cell phone - reasonable, since everyone has one now.
Fixed VHF - the boat VHF, again reasonable.
Backup Fixed VHF - why a backup *fixed* ? Doesn't make sense
Handheld VHF - reasonable, good idea.
FRS Radios - reasonable communication off the boat, but for a small boat
like yours seems overdone, but ok
Mobile and fixed emergency antennas - I could see one spare antenna. Why do
you need a spare mobile one?

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
Because it's obsessive..if you're that aftaid something's going to
happen, then do don't him sailing....

Almost every boat I know of carries a cell phone (because everyone has
one these days), a handheld and a fixed radio. So all I carry that's
"extra" is the spare radio and emergency antennas. I've acquired a few
radios over the last few years, so keeping a spare on board with a
little rollup antenna is not exactly panic in the wings, Katy. The FRS
radios are for fun, in case you thought anyone was going to call for
help on them.


RB
35s5
NY

Cell phones at sea
 

I'd suggest both an SSB (including transmit) and a sat phone if you go
offshore.

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www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
How about SSB, Bubbles? You could contact someone in Kenya if the
little
guy needs a diaper change.


If our cruising range extends next year, and that's our plan, an SSB is
more cheap safety gear worth buying and fun as well.
Scotty is busy crying over this stuff because he can't afford it.

RB
35s5
NY

Cell phones at sea
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
How about SSB, Bubbles? You could contact someone in Kenya if the
little
guy needs a diaper change.


If our cruising range extends next year, and that's our plan, an SSB is
more cheap safety gear worth buying and fun as well.
Scotty is busy crying over this stuff because he can't afford it.

Our boat came with an ICOM 601 ham radio, which includes the marine SSB
freqs. as well, plus an insulated backstay and an automatic electronic
antenna tuner. Works really well, once I got the counterpoise established.
The radio is also a 50W 2M rig, so I can bring up repeaters on either side
of Lake Michigan and chat with other hams on VHF, too. You should consider
a 601 and get your ham license. Then about the only thing you wouldn't have
is satphone, unless someone gave you one of those for Christmas, too. g

Max

Cell phones at sea
 

So, Jonathan, I'm carrying a spare fixed radio because I have it, and
the same goes for the antennas...one is a little rail mount and the
other is a rollup that goes right on the back of the radio. If they
were taking up any kind of space or were in the way, I guess I'd leave
them home. But we have more space than we know what to with. Maybe
we'll lose our rig and the handheld will fail...I don't see a reason
NOT to carry it any more than I see a reason not to carry a few extra
life jackets and flares. Doesn't hurt...might help.
In the world of Katy and Scotty this is crazy behavior. Fine by me!


RB
35s5
NY

Cell phones at sea
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
I'd suggest both an SSB (including transmit) and a sat phone if you go
offshore.

For Bubbles, I'd suggest tickets on the Princess Cruise Line.

Max

Cell phones at sea
 

Our boat came with an ICOM 601 ham radio, which includes the marine SSB

freqs. as well, plus an insulated backstay and an automatic electronic
antenna tuner.


That sounds like a lot of fun. I did look into that for a while, but
then we knew we'd be changing boats. I'll look into it again for the
2007 season. This season will be very local and light with Thomas, my
book project and Suzanne's new RN position.

RB
35s5
NY

Cell phones at sea
 

It's not excessive, certainly. I like to carry what I need, including a
backup, but we did have 5 gps' plus the boat gps last time we took a long
cruise.

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www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
So, Jonathan, I'm carrying a spare fixed radio because I have it, and
the same goes for the antennas...one is a little rail mount and the
other is a rollup that goes right on the back of the radio. If they
were taking up any kind of space or were in the way, I guess I'd leave
them home. But we have more space than we know what to with. Maybe
we'll lose our rig and the handheld will fail...I don't see a reason
NOT to carry it any more than I see a reason not to carry a few extra
life jackets and flares. Doesn't hurt...might help.
In the world of Katy and Scotty this is crazy behavior. Fine by me!


RB
35s5
NY

Cell phones at sea
 

It's not excessive, certainly. I like to carry what I need, including a

backup, but we did have 5 gps' plus the boat gps last time we took a
long
cruise.


We'll probably never need the extra radio. On the other hand on the C&C
the Raytheon died during a long weekend and it was nice to be able to
quickly install the backup. The Beneteau came with a Uniden with the
wireless WHAM mike. I consider Uniden stuff okay at best. If I don't
like it the Icom will take it's place and the Uniden will end up as
backup. I just gave away my Icom M1v handheld and will replace that in
a few weeks...not sure with what.

RB
35s5
NY

Cell phones at sea
 

Capt. Rob wrote:
So, Jonathan, I'm carrying a spare fixed radio because I have it, and
the same goes for the antennas...one is a little rail mount and the
other is a rollup that goes right on the back of the radio. If they
were taking up any kind of space or were in the way, I guess I'd leave
them home. But we have more space than we know what to with. Maybe
we'll lose our rig and the handheld will fail...I don't see a reason
NOT to carry it any more than I see a reason not to carry a few extra
life jackets and flares. Doesn't hurt...might help.
In the world of Katy and Scotty this is crazy behavior. Fine by me!


RB
35s5
NY

Defensive attitude there, Robbie...you can stuff your boat full of
as much stuff as you want...
for that matter, why not install a deep freeze and an automatic
washer and dryer? That way
you'll be prepared for every contingency.

Cell phones at sea
 

for that matter, why not install a deep freeze and an automatic
washer and dryer? That way



Sorry, Katy. You and Scotty simply sound foolish carrying on about an
extra radio and two antennas....as if that's a LOT of gear. My 35s5 has
a fairly modest electronics pack...tridata, ST400 AP, the stuff you
find on most boats. I have no microwave and the propane oven is
shutdown for good, until I decide it's worth coverting to CNG. I'm
adding a GPS. I probably won't install the Raytheon radar this season,
which was given to me. Oh...and I have a fireboy system for the engine
and a CM detector...I guess those are also not worth carrying, right
Katy?

RB
35s5
NY

Cell phones at sea
 

What?! No EPIRB?

I have two Epirbs in my closet. One is new in the box, an ACR 406 that
will probably go on ebay soon.


RB
35s5
NY

Cell phones at sea
 

What?! No EPIRB?



"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
So, Jonathan, I'm carrying a spare fixed radio because I have
it, and
the same goes for the antennas...one is a little rail mount and
the
other is a rollup that goes right on the back of the radio. If
they
were taking up any kind of space or were in the way, I guess
I'd leave
them home. But we have more space than we know what to with.
Maybe
we'll lose our rig and the handheld will fail...I don't see a
reason
NOT to carry it any more than I see a reason not to carry a few
extra
life jackets and flares. Doesn't hurt...might help.
In the world of Katy and Scotty this is crazy behavior. Fine by
me!


RB
35s5
NY

Cell phones at sea
 

name for your boat....''Paranoid".



"Swab Rob" wrote ...
for that matter, why not install a deep freeze and an automatic
washer and dryer? That way



Sorry, Katy. You and Scotty simply sound foolish carrying on
about an
extra radio and two antennas....as if that's a LOT of gear. My
35s5 has
a fairly modest electronics pack...tridata, ST400 AP, the stuff
you
find on most boats. I have no microwave and the propane oven is
shutdown for good, until I decide it's worth coverting to CNG.
I'm
adding a GPS. I probably won't install the Raytheon radar this
season,
which was given to me. Oh...and I have a fireboy system for the
engine
and a CM detector...I guess those are also not worth carrying,
right
Katy?

RB
35s5 the most paranoid boat on ASA
NY

Cell phones at sea
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote
. . . the propane oven is shutdown for good,
until I decide it's worth coverting to CNG.

Why no propane? It has 2.5 x more btu's than nat gas (per cu ft)!
Hank Hill

Cell phones at sea
 

Why no propane? It has 2.5 x more btu's than nat gas (per cu ft)!
Hank Hill

There's been a quiet and quick switch to CNG here in my area. Without
exception, everyone I know and many of the boats I see have abandoned
the less safe propane. We almost never cook below, so I may not even
bother either way. The oven and range on the 35s5 has never been used.
We really prefer cooking on the outdoor grills.


RB
35s5
NY

Cell phones at sea
 

Capt. Rob wrote:
for that matter, why not install a deep freeze and an automatic
washer and dryer? That way



Sorry, Katy. You and Scotty simply sound foolish carrying on about an
extra radio and two antennas....as if that's a LOT of gear. My 35s5 has
a fairly modest electronics pack...tridata, ST400 AP, the stuff you
find on most boats. I have no microwave and the propane oven is
shutdown for good, until I decide it's worth coverting to CNG. I'm
adding a GPS. I probably won't install the Raytheon radar this season,
which was given to me. Oh...and I have a fireboy system for the engine
and a CM detector...I guess those are also not worth carrying, right
Katy?

RB
35s5
NY

It's not just the radios, Robbie...it's the whole shebang...the
whole glut of existence you've jam packed on that boat...emphasizing
your materialism and then you turn around and claim it's for your
kid...well, we know different...using Thomas as an excuse for your
proclivity for accumulating acres of "stuff" in lieu of sailing is a
shallow attempt...you had this behavior well before Thomas...stop
using him as your excuse...he's too cute and should respect his
father for being well-grounded rather than so flighty...

Cell phones at sea
 

Capt. Rob wrote:
Why no propane? It has 2.5 x more btu's than nat gas (per cu ft)!
Hank Hill

There's been a quiet and quick switch to CNG here in my area. Without
exception, everyone I know and many of the boats I see have abandoned
the less safe propane. We almost never cook below, so I may not even
bother either way. The oven and range on the 35s5 has never been used.
We really prefer cooking on the outdoor grills.


RB
35s5
NY

....and he can always plug in the electric cord on his crock pot....

Cell phones at sea
 

....and he can always plug in the electric cord on his crock pot....


How right you are. Our stove has an electric option and we'll use that
when plugged in at the slip or other marinas.


RB
35s5
NY

Cell phones at sea
 

It's not just the radios, Robbie...it's the whole shebang...the
whole glut of existence you've jam packed on that boat...


Katie, I think you're making things up. Outside of a small 200 dollar
flat screen DVD player from Costco, what do you imagine we're carrying?
Our stereo is no larger (and probably lighter) than most. The speakers
are smaller than most (but better quality). And there's just nothing
else on board. No Playstations, no trainsets. We don't have radar
installed or a color fishfinder or even a coffee machine.
Do you have a stereo on board? You have this illusion that there's a
home theatre on my boats, but do you look at the pics? All we had on
Ghost and Alien were car based CD players and a portable TV with a 9
inch screen...pretty much what you'd find on most boats, Katy.
As for Thomas....he got a lot of toys for Xmas and almost all are
packedc away, opened slowly, one at a time over the weeks. And only a
few toys are out at a time as well. His TV time is very limited...his
music time is also limited. His social time is mostly unlimited.

RB
35s5
NY

Cell phones at sea
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
...and he can always plug in the electric cord on his crock pot....


How right you are. Our stove has an electric option and we'll use that
when plugged in at the slip or other marinas.

What exactly do you mean by "when?"

Max

Cell phones at sea
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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And there's just nothing
else on board. No Playstations, no trainsets.

WHAT??? No trainset?? Loco will be having words with you.

Max

Cell phones at sea
 

WHAT??? No trainset?? Loco will be having words with you.


Uh oh. Alright, I'll set up a pantagraph on deck using the boom.


RB
35s5
NY

Cell phones at sea
 

"katy" wrote in message
...
Capt. Rob wrote:
Why no propane? It has 2.5 x more btu's than nat gas (per cu
ft)!
Hank Hill

There's been a quiet and quick switch to CNG here in my area.
Without
exception, everyone I know and many of the boats I see have
abandoned
the less safe propane. We almost never cook below, so I may
not even
bother either way. The oven and range on the 35s5 has never
been used.
We really prefer cooking on the outdoor grills.


RB
35s5
NY

...and he can always plug in the electric cord on his crock
pot....

or call Pizza Hut on one of his many cell phones.....