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wrote in message
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I never heard anybody call the 8.5 M S2 slow. Interesting, is the 8.6
that different?


Talk to a racer with vast experience like bubbles, you'll learn a lot!

Bwahahahhahhahhahhahahhahhahahhahahhahahahahahha

John Cairns

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don't think Bubbles can make any observations at all,
outside the Matrix.

"Capt." Rob wrote:
I can make two very valid observations!

1) Your last cruising boat was a Hunter 19!!!!

Which sailed more miles than you ever will, often in weather
that would have you calling for a new diaper


2) Your current cruising boat is a powerboat!!!!


And it actually cruises, too. In fact, with it's light draft
and low bridge clearance it goes many places that a sailboat
cannot... which was part of our intentions.

Okie dokie!!! Sorry, Doug.


Are you trying to pretend to be a human being, apologizing
and all? Don't bother, you don't fool anybody. Go back to
playing with your sock puppets.

DSK

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Why on Yachtworld are the Oceanus generally more money than similarly
sized and aged Firsts?


Are you seriously asking this question??? Good lord. It's becasue
cruisers outsell racers by a wide margine. Cost is effected by demand
as much as quality. The cruising Beneteau's are the company's bread and
butter both to private buyers and charter companies. 90% of sailors
just want a comfy boat and the first series puts performance 1st.
Racers also date faster and have less market value in most cases. Look
at the price of a C&C 34R vs and XL version.
Hope you're getting a clue, but I doubt it.

RB
35s5
NY

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You are not comparing Mercedes and Lincolns, your comparing K cars and
Reliants.

Not even an intelligent comparison there. Did you know that the K car
platform was used for the ahead of it's time Mitsubishi Starion? Of
course you didn't. Another area where you know zilch.
The question about cruisers outselling races was a doozy.

RB
35s5
NY

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Capt. Rob wrote:
Why on Yachtworld are the Oceanus generally more money than similarly
sized and aged Firsts?


Are you seriously asking this question??? Good lord. It's becasue
cruisers outsell racers by a wide margine. Cost is effected by demand
as much as quality. The cruising Beneteau's are the company's bread and
butter both to private buyers and charter companies. 90% of sailors
just want a comfy boat and the first series puts performance 1st.
Racers also date faster and have less market value in most cases. Look
at the price of a C&C 34R vs and XL version.
Hope you're getting a clue, but I doubt it.

RB
35s5
NY

Why do you persist with the insults? It can't be good for your
business. Anyone googles you and these all come up. The "troll" excuse
doesn't work.

My question was based on your claim that your boat is better and worth
more than the Oceanus series which you said were poorly built yada,
yada, yada.

I guess that wasn't right?

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Why do you persist with the insults?


Gary, do you not read? Look at this forum. It's mostly insults. Beyond
that you're obviously a person of limited intelligence. Sadly this has
not obstructed you from forming opinions, all quite laughable.
My business is just fine. I own, among other things, a nice sailboat
and it's paid for.

RB
35s5
NY

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My question was based on your claim that your boat is better and worth
more than the Oceanus series which you said were poorly built yada,
yada, yada.


It is worth more, though that concept only means money to your sort.
It's certainly built better. The Oceanus are built okay, but suffer
from pretty poor fit and finish. Sadly this has extended to the current
First series boats in recent years. Why don't you ask a Beneteau dealer
about the efforts to make improvements in US boats or better still,
find a nice 345 or 35s5 and compare for yourself. Nothing beats having
a clue, Gary. Try it and then get back to me.

RB
35s5
NY

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Capt. Rob wrote:
Why do you persist with the insults?


Gary, do you not read? Look at this forum. It's mostly insults. Beyond
that you're obviously a person of limited intelligence. Sadly this has
not obstructed you from forming opinions, all quite laughable.
My business is just fine. I own, among other things, a nice sailboat
and it's paid for.

RB
35s5
NY

You are the only one being that way so consistently. The others don't
seem to be playing your game. Odd.

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"Capt. Rob" wrote:



Look at this forum. It's mostly insults. Beyond
that you're obviously a person of limited intelligence.

Why you worthless piece of a pale pigs ear! I resent that remark, I
NEVER insult anyone!

Cheers
Marty

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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
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Bob is actually a good guy.

yeah, a good guy who wrote;

''Go have sex with your mother again.
Your father can hold her down while your
sister watches!
Is that what you wanted, dickless? ''


RB