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Rod rigging is more often used aboard racing boats than on cruising boats.
While an argument can be made for rod rigging lasting longer than wire
rigging, it won't take any kinks the way wire rigging will, which means one
ill-placed docking can mean the end of a shroud. And, there is no way to
inspect rod rigging short of x-ray, which presents the possibility of
surprise catastrophic failures. While rod rigging may last longer than wire,
it's somewhat of a moot point since the terminal ends will wear out before
the other components do.

Oh boy!

Amen!

Rod rigging is more often used aboard racing boats than on cruising
boats.
While an argument can be made for rod rigging lasting longer than wire
rigging


In my research for my book I interviewed 5 surveyors in NY, PA and FL
who specialized in sailboats. ALL prefered rod rigging over traditional
wire. ALL felt that it's virtually impervious to failure, so long as
the fittings were updated and NONE had seen a failure and only two had
even heard of rod rigging rigs failing and in both cases it was
actually the chainplate that had failed! ALL had inspected rod rigged
boats from the early 80's that were found to be in excellent condition.
Of course my boat is not very old and her rigging is like new with
terminals updated in 2004.
Bob, it's best to actually do some real research instead of posting
superficial info from Sailnet that you coppied and pasted.

RB
35s5
NY

Wouldn't it make sense to talk to a rigger about
rigging?
S.

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
:
:
: In my research for my book I interviewed 5
surveyors in NY, PA and FL
: who specialized in sailboats. ALL prefered rod
rigging over traditional
: wire. ALL felt that it's virtually impervious to
failure, so long as
: the fittings were updated and NONE had seen a
failure and only two had
: even heard of rod rigging rigs failing and in
both cases it was
: actually the chainplate that had failed! ALL had
inspected rod rigged
: boats from the early 80's that were found to be
in excellent condition.
: Of course my boat is not very old and her
rigging is like new with
: terminals updated in 2004.
: Bob, it's best to actually do some real research
instead of posting
: superficial info from Sailnet that you coppied
and pasted.
:
: RB
: 35s5
: NY
:

"NotPony" wrote in message
news:LrEuf.1732$Pe6.483@trnddc08...
Wouldn't it make sense to talk to a rigger about
rigging?
S.

In the martix, no.

John Cairns


"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
:
:
: In my research for my book I interviewed 5
surveyors in NY, PA and FL
: who specialized in sailboats. ALL prefered rod
rigging over traditional
: wire. ALL felt that it's virtually impervious to
failure, so long as
: the fittings were updated and NONE had seen a
failure and only two had
: even heard of rod rigging rigs failing and in
both cases it was
: actually the chainplate that had failed! ALL had
inspected rod rigged
: boats from the early 80's that were found to be
in excellent condition.
: Of course my boat is not very old and her
rigging is like new with
: terminals updated in 2004.
: Bob, it's best to actually do some real research
instead of posting
: superficial info from Sailnet that you coppied
and pasted.
:
: RB
: 35s5
: NY
:

Only 5?

How many were licensed, professional engineers in the area of structures?

hmmm?

The only place rod rigging is used in structures is where the end could be
threaded, or bent and set in concrete. If it's swaged it's wire rope.

Yes, your guys saw failures - exactly the type of failures from using rod
rigging in that fashion.

Still don't get it, do you?

Think a bit...

Amen!



"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Rod rigging is more often used aboard racing boats than on cruising
boats.
While an argument can be made for rod rigging lasting longer than wire
rigging


In my research for my book I interviewed 5 surveyors in NY, PA and FL
who specialized in sailboats. ALL prefered rod rigging over traditional
wire. ALL felt that it's virtually impervious to failure, so long as
the fittings were updated and NONE had seen a failure and only two had
even heard of rod rigging rigs failing and in both cases it was
actually the chainplate that had failed! ALL had inspected rod rigged
boats from the early 80's that were found to be in excellent condition.
Of course my boat is not very old and her rigging is like new with
terminals updated in 2004.
Bob, it's best to actually do some real research instead of posting
superficial info from Sailnet that you coppied and pasted.

RB
35s5
NY

I have a hard time believing that rod rigging fails less than wire.
Consider, if a crack in a wire happens, it affects only that wire and
nothing comes down. ANY crack in rod rigging will quickly propogate
through the entire rod. Considering this, something is wrong with the
comparison.

It fails immediately ...without warning ...and usually with catastrophic
results

CM.

wrote in message
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I have a hard time believing that rod rigging fails less than wire.
Consider, if a crack in a wire happens, it affects only that wire and
nothing comes down. ANY crack in rod rigging will quickly propogate
through the entire rod. Considering this, something is wrong with the
comparison.

have a hard time believing that rod rigging fails less than wire.


As Gary pointed out, rigging failure is rare compared to a fitting or
chainplate cracking. That said, rod rigging is stronger and virtually
impossible to break, where wire does and has parted under sail. I'll
take the rod rigging every time thank you, especially on a boat in the
fine condition that mine is in. I also had rod on the C&C 32 and it was
bullet proof...really.

RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message In my research for my book
I interviewed 5 surveyors in NY, PA and FL
who specialized in sailboats. ALL prefered rod rigging over traditional
wire.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!!!

Give it up Bob!

You own a Mac26X upgrade!

CM

Capt. Rob wrote:
Rod rigging is more often used aboard racing boats than on cruising
boats.
While an argument can be made for rod rigging lasting longer than wire
rigging


In my research for my book I interviewed 5 surveyors in NY, PA and FL
who specialized in sailboats. ALL prefered rod rigging over traditional
wire. ALL felt that it's virtually impervious to failure, so long as
the fittings were updated and NONE had seen a failure and only two had
even heard of rod rigging rigs failing and in both cases it was
actually the chainplate that had failed! ALL had inspected rod rigged
boats from the early 80's that were found to be in excellent condition.
Of course my boat is not very old and her rigging is like new with
terminals updated in 2004.
Bob, it's best to actually do some real research instead of posting
superficial info from Sailnet that you coppied and pasted.

RB
35s5
NY

In fact, regardless of whether you have rod or wire rope, there will be
failures but failures of either are rare. It is most often the rest of
the stuff that breaks. Inspections of rod rigging, by even the most
reputable of surveyors, is suspect because of the difficulty of finding
evidence of impending failure, unlike wire rope. While rod is stronger,
nicer looking and lighter, it is also more expensive, less user friendly
and spares are not normally kept onboard. It is therefore less
appealing to anyone but racers in pursuit of lighter faster boats and
prepared to accept the added cost, inconvenience and risk.

Gaz