You sure looked like an idiot
insisting it was the "most important" race!



Now, Jeff...I'm sure you're not a liar and will post a link to where I
said it was the most important race. I simply said that I don't know
anyone who throws a race or takes it lightly. If they're at the start
they want to finish first. Always. I guess the racers I know are just
more competitive.

RB
35s5
NY

Capt. Rob wrote:

You sure looked like an idiot
insisting it was the "most important" race!



Now, Jeff...I'm sure you're not a liar and will post a link to where I
said it was the most important race.


You actually said: "Winning the last race seems to be important with
racers for some reason."

I simply said that I don't know
anyone who throws a race or takes it lightly. If they're at the start
they want to finish first. Always. I guess the racers I know are just
more competitive.


Right Bob. It looks like you really don't know any racers.

Serious racers want to win regattas. Individual races are not so
important. When there's a throw-away or the outcome is already
determined they often don't bother. In the case you presented, the
three leaders were fighting it out, ignoring the last place Bene, who
took a meaningless first place. The fact the you don't understand
this ranks you as a newbie, and a pretty stupid one at that.

Here's another regatta with the same 35s5 Mistral, with the same
skipper. Look in PHRF 8: Mistral had a few good races, but most were
in the bottom of the fleet. You'll notice that this time, they punted
on the final race. In fact, more than half of the fleet didn't bother
to start the last race. Even more wouldn't have bothered, except
that their divisions were contested. I guess that means the Key West
Race Week doesn't attract real racers.

http://www.premiere-racing.com/keywe...2003_RDiv4.htm


RB - who knows nothing about racing
35s5
NY

Jeff wrote:

Here's another regatta with the same 35s5 Mistral, with the same
skipper. Look in PHRF 8: Mistral had a few good races, but most were
in the bottom of the fleet. You'll notice that this time, they punted
on the final race. In fact, more than half of the fleet didn't bother
to start the last race. Even more wouldn't have bothered, except that
their divisions were contested. I guess that means the Key West Race
Week doesn't attract real racers.

http://www.premiere-racing.com/keywe...2003_RDiv4.htm


RB - who knows nothing about racing
35s5
NY

That is kind of a leap in logic. There may be many reasons why many
boats didn't compete. Maybe they had farther to go home? Maybe they
had no wind so they left early. Maybe it was a ****ty regatta. Matbe
they were hung over.
When we organize regattas at our club, there normally are less folks in
the last race not because they throw it out but because they hit the
road and go home etc. The local guys who keep their boats at the club
race every race. The visitors party the last night and head home the day
after, normally when the last race is scheduled.

Gaz

Gary wrote:
Jeff wrote:

Here's another regatta with the same 35s5 Mistral, with the same
skipper. Look in PHRF 8: Mistral had a few good races, but most were
in the bottom of the fleet. You'll notice that this time, they punted
on the final race. In fact, more than half of the fleet didn't bother
to start the last race. Even more wouldn't have bothered, except
that their divisions were contested. I guess that means the Key West
Race Week doesn't attract real racers.

http://www.premiere-racing.com/keywe...2003_RDiv4.htm


RB - who knows nothing about racing
35s5
NY


That is kind of a leap in logic. There may be many reasons why many
boats didn't compete.

Sure there are many reasons, I only listed a few. In fact, the page I
posted listed 7 divisions, and in all there were many DNC's for the
last race. However, when the division was contested, the front
runners stayed around. Obviously, the final race has diminished
importance for many racers.

This post relates to one a month ago, where booby hi-lited a 35s5 win,
when in fact the boat had been trailing the fleet for the entire
regatta. That it won the last race was meaningless, because the real
race was between the frontrunners who wouldn't bother to cover the
last place boat. Booby tried to claim that winning each race was
important, implying that it was more important than winning the regatta.

Maybe they had farther to go home? Maybe they
had no wind so they left early. Maybe it was a ****ty regatta. Matbe
they were hung over.

Actually, this last race was 30+ knots and rather cold for Key West.

When we organize regattas at our club, there normally are less folks in
the last race not because they throw it out but because they hit the
road and go home etc. The local guys who keep their boats at the club
race every race. The visitors party the last night and head home the day
after, normally when the last race is scheduled.

Then booby would claim they're not real racers.


Gaz