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Hey Nutsy,

I see the Mazda made it into the top Six Least Safe Cars on the road for
2006. Right behind the two Korean; the Hyundai and KIA. They were
followed by Nissan, Suzuki and Toyota.

From the: Insurance Institute of Highway Safety and reported by Forbes

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I can't wait to hear the Boobs response to this huge news. I mean
that's just the opposite of what he's been saying. Jeezzee this is
huge. If the dorkmobile isn't safe then why be seen driving one. This
is huge.

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Wait a minute ............. what's Mazda got to do with the Boob?

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Wha? Jap cars less safe than Merican cars? What will comrade
Bubbles say?

Scotty


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...

Hey Nutsy,

I see the Mazda made it into the top Six Least Safe Cars on the
road for
2006. Right behind the two Korean; the Hyundai and KIA. They
were
followed by Nissan, Suzuki and Toyota.

From the: Insurance Institute of Highway Safety and reported by
Forbes

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Wha? Jap cars less safe than Merican cars? What will comrade
Bubbles say?


My Subaru is built in the USA. Outback sports are built in Japan. The
Sports are more reliable than the US built models. So we can't even
build a Japanese car in the USA and do it right.

RB
35s5
NY

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Right behind the two Korean; the Hyundai and KIA. They were
followed by Nissan, Suzuki and Toyota.


well I don't own any of those, but they're talking about tiny el-cheapo
cars, not a Nissan Maxima or Toyota Camry. I wouldn't suggest a Kia or
Hyundai to anyone I cared about, though Hyundai has improved well
beyond Kia...which is pretty odd!

RB
35s5
NY

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Must have people here like you on the line making them. Do us all a
favor, make America a better place.... move to Tokyo.

Joe

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Must have people here like you on the line making them.


Don't get mad at me, Joe. When this country is able to make a good car
I'll buy one. Toyota is about to surpass GM. I wonder why my old Subaru
with 110K on it had practically no rattles while the new G6 and Hummer
H3 sounded like they were falling apart. Why is my Tribeca so much more
solid feeling than a Jeep? No go drive a silly Harley. We can't even
build a good bike here.
Of course the rest of the world is laughing.

RB
35s5
NY

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Putz, It's the cost that keep Americans from buying new American made
cars.

Did you know GM spends more on employee pensions then they do on steel?

Just think if we had a level playing field with the Japs. We could buy
a new corvette for 16K, and put 100's of millions more into R&D.

Not to mention that the japanese govt still refuses to even admit that
as a nation they committed mass murder and torture of American's
prisioners during WW11 and refuse to apoligise.

****...if Al-Quedia made a better car today, you would buy it from
them.

Funny thing is your still driving the biggest Vagina looking slushbox
unsafe Dork mobile on the road.

Joe

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It is truly American to buy the best product available for your money,
regardless of where it came from. That's capitalism and freedom!

Anything else is tribalistic jingoism.

Amen!

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Bob Crantz wrote:
It is truly American to buy the best product available for your money,
regardless of where it came from. That's capitalism and freedom!

Anything else is tribalistic jingoism.

Amen!


Here, here.

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Robert Broady said:
Note that the Corvette's "hull" is Fiberglass, not steel!

Commodore Joe Redcloud©

Thats right Robert Broady the Corvette is fiberglass.

The USS Midway was steel and did over 35 knots, whats your point?

Why do you need your sock to talk for you?

Joe

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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Why do you need your sock to talk for you?


Darn those socks!

Amen!

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"The people who consume the bulk of goods are the (same) people who
make them. That is a fact we must never forget - that is the secret of
our prosperity." -- Henry Ford

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I don't look at this from an economic point of view but the political
and social points of view. The question really is whether America can
remain a great power or a dominant power if it becomes a primarily
service economy, and I doubt that. A country has to have an industrial
base in order to play a significant role in the world. And I am
concerned from that point of view.

Joe

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
Must have people here like you on the line making them.


Don't get mad at me, Joe. When this country is able to make a good car
I'll buy one. Toyota is about to surpass GM. I wonder why my old Subaru
with 110K on it had practically no rattles while the new G6 and Hummer
H3 sounded like they were falling apart. Why is my Tribeca so much more
solid feeling than a Jeep? No go drive a silly Harley. We can't even
build a good bike here.
Of course the rest of the world is laughing.

RB
35s5
NY

My Mercury Grand Marquis has a LOT more than 110K on it, and it doesn't
rattle at all. There aren't many car models that can beat it's safety record
either.

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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Putz, It's the cost that keep Americans from buying new American made
cars.

Did you know GM spends more on employee pensions then they do on steel?

Who's fault is that?
$60.00 an hour pay and benefits per person for unskilled labor! What's
wrong with that picture.


Just think if we had a level playing field with the Japs. We could buy
a new corvette for 16K, and put 100's of millions more into R&D.

In the 70s and 80 after we showed them how to build cars they came back and
showed us they could do it better and still are.





Not to mention that the japanese govt still refuses to even admit that
as a nation they committed mass murder and torture of American's
prisioners during WW11 and refuse to apoligise.

We also rebuilt Japan for them after the war and they took the ball and ran
with it.

When was world war eleven?


****...if Al-Quedia made a better car today, you would buy it from
them.

Funny thing is your still driving the biggest Vagina looking slushbox
unsafe Dork mobile on the road.

Joe
BTW the auto business is now a world market. The heartbeat of America is
made in Canada.
Real Americans buy what they want!
JB
P.S. I have worked on every kind of car known to man ,the piece of junk is
one that you are working on at that particular point in time! Also find it
hard to believe there are no american manufacturers listed and that Toyota
is.

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Yeah real short sighted self centered Americans do so....Thats the
problem.


Clowns like Bobspirt think they help Americans when they buy a toyota
ect because they are put together here, citing the American workers who
benefit from the purchase of a Toyota ...you know the Teamsters, sales
personnel and service personnel.

These same people, however, would benefit from the purchase of a
U.S.-built vehicle. Additionally, the design, engineering, information
services, human resources, manufacturing and purchasing personnel, us
suppliers, the tier 1s 2s 3s etc., would also benefit from the purchase
of a U.S.-built car. Not so with the Jap crap.

Now that GM has announced its intentions to eliminate 30,000 U.S. jobs,
does Robert see how this could possibly affect him?

How bout you Beck?

There will potentially be 30,000 fewer Americans in the market for a
new or used home, to invest in the markets, to pay for college, to take
a vacation, to pay taxes, etc.

Unfortunately, too many people won't realize the flaw in their decision
not to buy American until it affects them personally, and then it will
be too late for all of us.

Joe

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buy german or sweedish if you want
safety.....

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"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
I don't look at this from an economic point of view but the political
and social points of view. The question really is whether America can
remain a great power or a dominant power if it becomes a primarily
service economy, and I doubt that. A country has to have an industrial
base in order to play a significant role in the world. And I am
concerned from that point of view.


America is the greatest world power.

America has a service based economy.

A service based economy can be the world power.


America does have a great industrial base. Cars are a commodity, labor costs
are a big factor for commodities.

America leads in aircraft manufacturing. Aircraft are using more and more
composites so traditional machinists are being displaced.
America leads the world in financial services.
America leads the world in investment potential.
America leads the world in paper production, electrical generation, rocket
production, aluminum production, arms manufacturing, medicine,
pharmaceticals, house building, oil refining etc.

Everything America leads the world requires the workforce be highly
education. Education drives unions and low skilled labor away. Send jobs for
the ignorant to China - keep the Commies stupid.

I'm not worried at all. America will always be first in the hardest, most
sophisticated industrial arenas. Leave the easy stuff for foriegners.

Amen!

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Just think if we had a level playing field with the Japs. We could buy
a new corvette for 16K, and put 100's of millions more into R&D.


If only a new Vette was any good and not a rattle-box after just 6
months. I'm not going to buy junk just because I feel bad that my
country doesn't have a level playing field. It's also a farce since the
the US has proven that poor design is at the heart of it's failure. Not
only can't we build a good car, we can't get one on paper either.
My Tribeca is a "new" car 1st year model and has not had a single
problem of any kind, has the highest crash rating EVER measured for
it's class and leads for handling and braking. A 10th generation
Chrysler Minivan can't touch it nor could any Ford Explorer.
I'm sorry. Spend YOUR money on USA junk. I'll use mine more wisely.


RB
35s5
NY

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It is truly American to buy the best product available for your money,
regardless of where it came from.


No, in Joe's world we should all buy US made garbage cars because they
don't have a level playing field!

RB
35s5
NY

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"The people who consume the bulk of goods are the (same) people who
make them. That is a fact we must never forget - that is the secret of
our prosperity." -- Henry Ford


Henry Ford would look at the hilarious red tape that exists between
today's design department and actual production and laugh his ass off.
American cars suck for one simple reason: Americans.

RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
Just think if we had a level playing field with the Japs. We could buy
a new corvette for 16K, and put 100's of millions more into R&D.


If only a new Vette was any good and not a rattle-box after just 6
months. I'm not going to buy junk just because I feel bad that my
country doesn't have a level playing field. It's also a farce since the
the US has proven that poor design is at the heart of it's failure. Not
only can't we build a good car, we can't get one on paper either.
My Tribeca is a "new" car 1st year model and has not had a single
problem of any kind, has the highest crash rating EVER measured for
it's class and leads for handling and braking. A 10th generation
Chrysler Minivan can't touch it nor could any Ford Explorer.
I'm sorry. Spend YOUR money on USA junk. I'll use mine more wisely.


RB
35s5
NY


If you buy junk, you subsidize incompetence.

Who would go to a surgeon that kills 25% of his patients just so that
surgeon has work?

Who would send their kid to a school, that after 12 years, the kid can't
read?

Who would buy a mini van knowing that the transmission will need to be
replaced in 60K miles and have to pay for it?

If buying American is so essential and good, why not ban all imports?

Buy the best and forget the rest.

Amen!

Jesus drives a Subaru Tribeca!

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Real Americans buy what they want!


Hear that, Joe? I guess that makes me a real American and
you....something quite un-American. Enjoy your American Junk!

RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
"The people who consume the bulk of goods are the (same) people who
make them. That is a fact we must never forget - that is the secret of
our prosperity." -- Henry Ford


Henry Ford would look at the hilarious red tape that exists between
today's design department and actual production and laugh his ass off.
American cars suck for one simple reason: Americans.

Americans are great workers. It's the narcissistic corporate management that
allows crap to be produced.

Remember what corporate chieftains get paid relative to the workforce, even
if the company fails. Think of Carly Fiorina of HP. She cut the stock value
of HP in half, laid off thousands and walked with $44 million.

It's not the guys at the bottom, it's the guys at the top.

Least safe cars!:
 

Americans are great workers. It's the narcissistic corporate management
that
allows crap to be produced.


Some years ago I read that the new Saturn was doomed to be obsolete on
introduction because it's design advantages were lost due to the time
it took to bring to market. When the Saturn was finally introduced it
was indeed already dated by several generations. Quite recently I read
that it still takes the US car makers 3 times longer to bring a design
off paper that Japanese builders. 3 times longer and with 6 times more
problems per car than the Japanese cars! It's actually very sad. Cars
like the Camry and Accord have come to represent the Japanese average,
while our most expensive premium brands can't touch them. Toyota is now
predicting a 10% sales gain in the US for the new year. Honda = 4%. GM
will only see those numbers relative to recalls!


RB
35s5
NY

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Clowns like Bobspirt think they help Americans when they buy a toyota
ect because they are put together here,


As I already stated non-US built Subaru's are known to be better cars.
The US workers can't even screw a screw right. The fact that my Tribeca
was built here is nothing more or less than a negative aspect of the
car.

RB
35s5
NY

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My Mercury Grand Marquis has a LOT more than 110K on it, and it
doesn't
rattle at all. There aren't many car models that can beat it's safety
record
either. .

Presently one of the best car bargins going. V8 and a real frame for
under $25k. None of that unibody crap.

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Right, The guy in the next slip has a 2 yo Z vette. Ive rode and drove
it several times. Show me a jap car with 505 HP under 62K. BTW no
rattles at all. Great feedback and it will pin you to your seats.

I not a fan of vetts myself, If in that kind of market I'd buy a ford
GT or a Saleen S7 both great american cars.

Have you seen the new Dodge Charger ?
How bout the Dodge Hemi wagon? Great family car. It don't look like a
vagina either.

Keep your jap crap pin head. I hope when your boy grows up and wants a
job he can find one.

""The ultimate test of a man's conscience and wisdom may be his
willingness to sacrifice something today for future generations whose
words of thanks will not be heard." " -- Gaylord Nelson

Joe

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"Joe" wrote in message
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""The ultimate test of a man's conscience and wisdom may be his
willingness to sacrifice something today for future generations whose
words of thanks will not be heard." " -- Gaylord Nelson


Well said Joe. So where was your boat built?

Amen!

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England .........our allies... and I bought it used. Has a Ford Main
engine BTW and all new American made sails.

How about you Frenchie?
Joe

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BTW no
rattles at all.


That must have been the "good no rattle experimental Vette" they
built!!!! Too bad they couldn't do the rest. You sound rediculous.
Every long term test of Vette's complained of rattles and fit and
finish. Oh, and learn someting aboat cars. An Acura NSX is twice the
Vette and with a far more refined suspension system. Also: look at the
tired on the NSX and reflect on what it's getting done and how. 505
HP??? Wooweee zowweee!
Grow up.


RB
35s5
NY

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It was buildt by or fine allies the British. And I'm proud to support
countries that support America.

I bought her used here in Texas from a Texan.

Spent many thousands using American companies and supplies restoring
her. She is wrapped in American paint applied by Americans using
American paint brushes. Parts of her steel hull now have American steel
welded in place by American welders.

Even when doing bottom jobs I use the outfit in the yard that has
Americans doing the grunt work, not cheaper illegal Mexican labor.

She has a Ford main engine, All of her new electronics are American
made, same with the sails, and the computor im typing with now.

My boat purchace in 1994 has had nothing but positive effects on
American companies.

Joe

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Presently one of the best car bargins going. V8 and a real frame for
under $25k. None of that unibody crap.


Yeah! No good car could ever have a unibody!!! Yeah!!!! Tell 'em,
Sloco!
You Sure know cars!

RB
35s5
NY

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Scotty;

Not only that but as tested, the safest top five of the new model year
are the same as 2005. Volvo and then the next four are all FORD products
or a subsidy; Honda Acura, Ford Crown Victoria, Lincoln Town Car, and
Mercury Grand Marquis.

All Nutsy's noise about leg room doesn't seem to hold up for Cars. The
Lincoln Town Car has 40% more leg room than his car:^)



http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

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Nutsy;

Not where they're built, it's HOW they're built!



http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

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Everything America leads the world requires the workforce be highly
education.

You mean highly educated right?

Education drives unions and low skilled labor away. Send jobs for
the ignorant to China

Right , you think the Chinese are stupid and un-educated?
Your in for a rude awakening, I know of many high tech products being
designed on US software by Chinese optical engineers in china for US
made products. Why pay a Phd or Master's degreed engineer here 150K
when you can find one in China for 30K.

keep the commies stupid.


I'm not worried at all. America will always be first in the hardest,
most
sophisticated industrial arenas.

Until all of our bright kids are working at Home-Depot or Burger King
because they can not find work here.

Why? Because bean counting became priorty over making sure we remainded
the leader by training and fostering design and engineering here. It's
not just grunt labor anymore Bob.

Joe

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All Nutsy's noise about leg room doesn't seem to hold up for Cars. The
Lincoln Town Car has 40% more leg room than his car:^)


So what you saying Ol Thom is the leaders in testing safelty all
confirm that Bubbles dives a tight unsafe slushbox vagina looking
overpriced jap car best described as "ew".

Bwahahahahahahahahaaahahaaa just because he hates Americans!!

This is a key moment in defining the values of Bobspirt.

Joe

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Not where they're built, it's HOW they're built!

It's how they're built, designed and backed. In the US we fail in all 3
areas. For 30 years my father bought US cars. He owned Ford, Chrysler,
GM...all of them from pickups to family minivans. This year he finally
gave up. At 66 years old he said it was enough already and he finally
deserved a good car. He bought a Subaru Forester Turbo. After just a
few months he says it's the best car he's ever owned. And he doesn't
even care about the fact that it can do 0-60 in 5.3 seconds.

RB
35s5
NY