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Joe December 4th 05 01:47 AM

Whats the name of the sail
 
Between the main and mizzen mast?
http://www.tallshipstacoma.com/images/ships/oriole.jpg

Thanks
Joe


Bob Crantz December 4th 05 03:07 AM

Whats the name of the sail
 
jigger sail



"Joe" wrote in message
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Between the main and mizzen mast?
http://www.tallshipstacoma.com/images/ships/oriole.jpg

Thanks
Joe




Jeff December 4th 05 03:36 AM

Whats the name of the sail
 
No, the jigger is the mizzen, as in sailing "Jib and Jigger."

I've usually heard the sail between the main and mizzen called a
stays'l, but I suppose it depends on how its rigged.

Bob Crantz wrote:
jigger sail



"Joe" wrote in message
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Between the main and mizzen mast?
http://www.tallshipstacoma.com/images/ships/oriole.jpg

Thanks
Joe




rgnmstr December 4th 05 03:47 AM

Whats the name of the sail
 
Is that a Baltimore Oriole on the chute?


Maxprop December 4th 05 04:48 AM

Whats the name of the sail
 

"Joe" wrote in message
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Between the main and mizzen mast?
http://www.tallshipstacoma.com/images/ships/oriole.jpg

Thanks
Joe


It's a mizzen staysail, Joe. Had one on our previous boat, a ketch. For
what it's worth, the yawl was a rig concept in which the mizzen had
virtually no value beyond the ability to carry a mizzen staysail, generally
the huge balloony ones, almost like an asymmetrical spinnaker. A yawl's
mizzen was too small to be of much value beyond balancing the helm a little.
(This is from a book by Donald Long.)

Max



Gary December 4th 05 05:37 AM

Whats the name of the sail
 
Joe wrote:
Between the main and mizzen mast?
http://www.tallshipstacoma.com/images/ships/oriole.jpg

Thanks
Joe

The small stripped sail between the mizzen and main is the mizzen
staysail. It's kind of an assymetric for the mizzen. The tack normally
goes inboard of the main as far windward as possible. The clew sheets to
the end of the mizzen boom. It is only useful between 90 and 135
degrees off the wind. It has to be dropped for each tack or gybe.

In this picture it is hoisted wrong.

Gaz

Gary December 4th 05 05:47 AM

Whats the name of the sail
 
Jeff wrote:
No, the jigger is the mizzen, as in sailing "Jib and Jigger."

I've usually heard the sail between the main and mizzen called a
stays'l, but I suppose it depends on how its rigged.

Bob Crantz wrote:

jigger sail



"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...

Between the main and mizzen mast?
http://www.tallshipstacoma.com/images/ships/oriole.jpg

Thanks
Joe



Yes we call it a stays'l. We also sail jib and jigger but never refer
to the mizzen as the jigger.
On Oriole we have luff tackles at the bitter end of every halyard. They
are called jiggers. The halyards are rigged with a 4:1 purchase and the
luff tackles (called jiggers) give us another 4:1 purchase on the other
end of the halyard. When we raise a sail we get it up the last little
bit and tighten the luff with the jiggers that give us 16:1 purchase on
the head of the sail.

There are no winches on Oriole. Everything is rigged luff on luff as
jiggers.

Gary December 4th 05 05:47 AM

Whats the name of the sail
 
rgnmstr wrote:
Is that a Baltimore Oriole on the chute?

I don't know. It is an Oriole.

Bart Senior December 4th 05 05:51 AM

Whats the name of the sail
 
Normally that would be a Mizzen Staysail.
A white sail.

There might be a different name for a light
weight nylon staysail.

Jigger is another word for mizzen.

"Bob Crantz" wrote

jigger sail


"Joe" wrote
Between the main and mizzen mast?
http://www.tallshipstacoma.com/images/ships/oriole.jpg




DSK December 7th 05 07:42 PM

Whats the name of the sail
 
Joe wrote:
Between the main and mizzen mast?
http://www.tallshipstacoma.com/images/ships/oriole.jpg



Gary wrote:
The small stripped sail between the mizzen and main is the mizzen
staysail. It's kind of an assymetric for the mizzen. The tack normally
goes inboard of the main as far windward as possible. The clew sheets to
the end of the mizzen boom. It is only useful between 90 and 135
degrees off the wind. It has to be dropped for each tack or gybe.

In this picture it is hoisted wrong.


I wondered about that from the dimensions of the foot &
leach, plus the stripes on sails usually go the other way!

BTW there are mizzen staysails that can be used upwind, they
generally sheet to the centerline or close to it. Mari-Cha
IV uses one.

I was taught that a mizzen ballooner sheeted to the mizzen
boom was a "Dutchman's britches"... we had several of these
type sails on a Navy-owned ketch at NTC Great Lakes, but
none of them set properly no matter where we sheeted them. I
suspect they were made for a different boat.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King



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