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Joe wrote:
Nice Boat and Duty!

I hear the Kootenay is in Mexico waiting to become a reef in the Grand
Caymen islands.

Is HMCS Oriole a ship of the line?
You and I both joined the military the same year.

Do you want to command a war ship?

What kinda speed will the Oriole make?

Joe

I think you are right about Kootenay. She is long gone. Her last trip
was to Chile in the early 90s.

Oriole is a Royal Yacht by NATO desig. She is commissioned and enjoys
the same status abs every other Canadian Ship.

I have already commanded two Minesweepers but This will probably be my
last ship. I am intendeding to release and go sailing in early 2007
after I finish in Oriole.

Hull speed is about 10.5, I have had her up to 14 and legend has it that
she once did 18 under a big kite down the west coast of Van Isle. Its
possible but very scary.

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Joe wrote:
But do you have your own boat, or do you just run one for Her Majesty?

Lets See When 16 I entered the US Navy on served on a ship that had
women that you canooks drulled over, at 21 was the youngest 1000 ton
freight and towing master in the USA (USMM Master Ticket 607529) at the
time. I have my own boat and take it damn where I want to take her ,and
not where my superiors tell me to take her, And I do it when I want to
do it.

As a Captain and Master I've commanded 120 footers to 360 footers from
1100 HP to 25,000 hp. One year working for Mobil I logged 47,450 miles
carrying crew and supplies, I've towed items larger than any ship in
your navy.

My office is aboard, and I live aboard a 42 ft Ketch named RedCloud. I
own 2 internet and communication bussinesses that allow me the leasure
time to enjoy this fine sailing forum, Your life of servatude and low
wages is nothing I would want to live vicariously or any other way.

Welcome to ASA Captain.

Joe

You should use spell check.

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"Scotty" wrote in message

Gary, try not to be so hard on Joe, he's actually a good guy and
a sailor, but, he's from Texas.

Common Texas Greetings include questioning your lineage, honour and word...
as well as derogatory remarks about your country of origin.

What can I say... they feel cocky cause they're packin'.... rest easy...
they get real polite after they have to check their firearms at the door.

CM

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"Gary" wrote in message


You should use spell check.

He does..... he writes in Texan.... you can hear some of it when Bush
gives a speech.

CM

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If a Texan forgets a word... and it happens often... they just invent a new
one to replace it!


CM

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
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"Gary" wrote in message


You should use spell check.

He does..... he writes in Texan.... you can hear some of it when Bush
gives a speech.

CM

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Yes Sir Cap'n Gary I should.

But I do not bother to here much.
I come here to be un-professional and let off steam ..... to enjoy
discussing sailing and boats.

I should give a rat's ass what sailors think of my spelling and
grammer, I will strive to improve.

It's just that I'm not writing ships logs, or business proposals, or
articles to be published in sailing magazines, and I'm not working on
my novels here so I kinda been slacking.

One of the best writers of all times hangs out here at times btw. He's
crusing to Bahama right now. You should visit his website! Just google
Capt. Neal on google and you should find his site, his lessons are
great for training your crew.

He hasen't written anything good since he's been tangled up with some
ditzy blonde, but I hope someday he will return and display his
superior wit.

Have you meet Katy btw?

Thanks again for the spell check tip!

Joe

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:)

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"Jeff" wrote

you refer to this as a "family cruise" when in fact its two
young
guys. Not that there's anything wrong with that.


it's a well know fact that Bendatoe caters to the gay community.

SV

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
We can't keep up with a Catalina 36 or most larger boats to weather.



Max, this doesn't make sense as the Catalina 36 and 34 have near
identical performance. Did I say near? The 34 is actually faster in
some situations while the 36 never is. I've sailed both WK versions and
one fin on a 34 that I'm currently trying to sell.

Not my experience. We've have two friends who formerly owned C34s and one
who currently owns a C36. The 36 is quite a bit faster than the 34s on all
points of sail, and seems to hold its own against another friend's C42.

Max

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"Commodore Joe Redcloud" wrote in message
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On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 23:21:09 GMT, "Maxprop" wrote:


"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
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Heh..... here is the sailcalc comparison between a Sea Sprite 34 & the
Nordica 30. I believe the Nordica 30 has a 180 PHRF. I think the telling
factor lies in the displacement to LWL which places the Sea Sprite in
the
very heavy cruiser class at over 400.

All true, but don't forget who designed the SS34: Bill Luders. I don't
expect you to know much about him, but he was known as the quintessential
rule-beater during his naval architecture days. He designed Americas Cup
boats as well as racers of virtually every length and application. And
his
boats won easily over boats that were purportedly "much faster yachts."
He
often talked to the rating rule powers-that-be, informing them of
loopholes
in their rules. They would say, "Go away, Bill--we like the rule as it
is."
So he'd design a boat to exploit that loophole and beat all their
cherished
rule-optimized yachts. This was through the CCA period, but also included
the early years of the IOR.

The SS34 has a high rating and rates like a floating concrete barge on
paper
*because* of her short waterline. But her waterline increases
dramatically
when heeled, and its shortness is a distinct advantage for minimizing
wetted
surface area off the wind. That's why the boat sails well above her
rating.
In fleets where SS34s are raced regularly against other boats, the PHRF is
almost always modified to around 145 in order to allow the other boats to
win. Seriously. But there are only 46 of them in existence, so they
aren't
exactly overrepresented in racing fleets around the country. What I do
know
is this: we can easily sail to weather, both in pointing ability and boat
speed, with a Catalina 34, and are quite a bit faster to weather than a
Pearson 33. We sail almost exactly knot for knot with a Tartan 34 with a
keel/CB and a competent skipper (much experience against that boat and
crew). We can't keep up with a Catalina 36 or most larger boats to
weather.
Off the wind we can sail with boats that should be quite a bit faster, and
that's wing and wing. With main and our asymmetric spinnaker we leave
them
behind. This boat sails consistently at half the wind speed in anything
over 5kts. up to about 14kts. Then it holds in around 6.5 to 7kts. unless
surfing. All those speeds are confirmed via GPS, by the way.

I'll tell you what I've told Bubbles: don't always presume that what you
see on paper has anything to do with reality. I'm sorry to say that your
boat probably can't stay with a SS34 on any point of sail. Don't take my
word for this--read all about the Luders 34 in Ferenc Mate's book, Best
Boats.

I like your boat, by the way. Looks like a great cruiser in the photos.

Max


The SeaSprite 34 was such a great performer that demand was overwhelming.
After
making less than 50 boats, they had to stop production due to enormous
stress!

I don't normally respond to this blathering idiot, but he's so full of it on
this point that some info needs clarification. The SS34 was built by one
Clark Ryder of C. E. Ryder yachts, a semi-custom firm in Bristol, RI. Clark
built boats until he was driven out of business by the ill-conceived luxury
tax on boats over $100K. The SS34, and its sisterships, the double-ended
Southern Cross cruisers, were expensive boats, built not for the masses, but
on a semi-custom basis. They were too expensive to compete with the
mass-produced boats of the time, but did well in sales with people who
wanted quality boats and were willing to pay for them. At least until the
luxury tax sank the business, and many others simultaneously.

Meanwhile, if you want essentially the looks of a 60's cruiser in a boat
with at
least moderate performance, you can look at a Robinhood 36, which is what
the
deadseasprite wishes it could have been.

I'm sure you're clueless (you generally are) as to what a Robinhood 36 is,
so I'll fill you in. It's nothing more than a Cape Dory 36 bearing the name
of the yard that now builds the design. It's a great boat, fast, and very
similar in performance to the SS34. The Cape Dorys and subsequent
Robinhoods appealed to essentially the same potential buyers as the Sea
Sprite series of boats did in their day.

The Seasprite was not a successful design by any measure.

Tom Morris has only sold a handful of Morris 36s. Does that mean it's not a
successful design as well? How about Steve and Linda Dashew's Deerfoot and
Sundeer boats--only a handful of them are in existence. Are they equally
unsuccessful? By your reasoning (really an inappropriate term for the
Redclod) the Ferrari Enzo is also a failure, so few of them exist. Your
Hunter/Chevy Cavalier mentality isn't equipped for understanding such
vessels and vehicles.

Max