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I'm looking for a racer/cruiser that meets the following criteria:
Fast 34-36 footer (PHRF below 135 or better) Shallow draft under 5 feet Good sized cockpit Swim platform NIce interior for weekend trips or even longer. Aft cabin required Sleeping quarters big enough for tall folks Good resale value Not older than say 1985 Price range 50-75K Thanks! RB No Boat yet! NY |
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Capt. Rob wrote:
I'm looking for a racer/cruiser that meets the following criteria: http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p..._boats=1301803 http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p..._boats=1352300 You could get this one & visit Joe http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p..._boats=1128943 Lovely Scandinavian http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p..._boats=1452932 http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p..._boats=1463562 Slightly snazzier version, slightly cheaper too http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p...oat_id=1265646 I'm considering taking a look at this one myself http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p..._boats=1403333 There's a whole lot more, haven't even covered half the alphabet for the 36 footers. Just trying to help. The big problem for Bubbles though is that all these boats exist OUTside the Matrix. And of course they all cost actual money instead of pretend usenet blowhard money. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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Fast 34-36 footer (PHRF below 135 or better)
Shallow draft under 5 feet There is no such thing. 35s5 ............. back of the pack |
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Doug...not ONE of those boats listed matched or even came close to the criteria I listed. Either no aft cabins, no swim platforms and so on. Good work, Doug. You proved my point. The 35s5 (at the time of her design) was a rare combo of features and speed. Nowadays such a boat is a lot easier to find...for about twice the price. C&C and Kirie were among the very few other contenders. The 35s5 is essentially umatched for her speed and accomodation, unless you spend much more. I bet there's some odd make boats out there that can do the same...but not easy to find, buy or resell. Thanks again for making my point! RB 35s5 NY |
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Capt. Rob wrote:
Doug...not ONE of those boats listed matched or even came close to the criteria I listed. Yes they did. ... Either no aft cabins You want a center cockpit boat? ... no swim platforms Every last one had at least a ladder & platform, some had open transoms and/or scoops. Every last one was significantly faster. Good work, Doug. Thank you You proved my point. That you're a lying blowhard who doesn't actually have a boat? DSK |
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That you're a lying blowhard who doesn't actually have a boat?
Sorry, doug. I think you know what a swim platform and aft cabin is. My 35s5 has them. In addition that some of the boats you listed were outside of the size range or older than I specified, so let's try again and see if you follow these VERY simple parameters: Fast 34-36 footer (PHRF below 135 or better) Shallow draft under 5 feet Good sized cockpit (Say 7 feet or better long) Swim platform (Not a ladder, a real platform) NIce interior for weekend trips or even longer. (Not like the hideous Frers you linked) Aft cabin required (A cabin aft with a door, Doug) Sleeping quarters big enough for tall folks (Hard to find. Should be at least one double near 7') Good resale value Not older than say 1985 (obvious) Price range 50-75K So try again, Doug and try not to make up a new defintion for swim platform or aft cabin. The only boat on your list we considered was the CS 36...a nice boat, but short bunks, no swim platform and tough to find. We looked at one. Go ahead...list em! RB 35s5 NY |
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Gee, and I so liked the Frers.
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http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p...ecked_boats=13...
This won't open http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p...hecked_boats=1... Hunter 37.5 is over our size limit for our slip and now swim platform. You could get this one & visit Joe http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p...hecked_boats=1... No aft Cabin, no swim platform. Lovely Scandinavian http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p...hecked_boats=1... Tiny sleep quarters, no swim platform, no aft cabin, teak decks are a no-no on a boat this old. PHRF is about the same here. http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p...hecked_boats=1... CS 36 was a contender, but the lack of swim platform and generic appearance turned us off. Nice boat though. Close to same speed but certainly not faster with SK. Slightly snazzier version, slightly cheaper too http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p...jsp?boat_id=12... As above....rates 136 PHRF with wing I'm considering taking a look at this one myself http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p...hecked_boats=1... We already did. The interior is even worse than the pics suggest. You won't be buying it. Like I said, not one of these boats meets the criteria I listed. Only a few do. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... I'm looking for a racer/cruiser that meets the following criteria: Fast 34-36 footer (PHRF below 135 or better) Good resale value Not older than say 1985 Price range 50-75K I'm shocked by the price!! My *new* 33.7 was within your price bracket... and the 33.7 has a lower PHRF. Regards Donal -- |
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I'm shocked by the price!! My *new* 33.7 was within your price
bracket... and the 33.7 has a lower PHRF. Donal....I like your boat a lot, but they don't cost 57K or even 75K here. The 35s5 (which cost 57K) gives us plenty of speed and an interior that fits us a bit better. If racing was higher on my list, a 33.7 might have been considered more. Also, the small performance gain for the 33.7 here seems to run hand in hand with a near 7 foot draft which doesn't work for us. The standard draft 33.7 rates 129 just like the 35s5 WK in many areas. Finally, there's the US quality factor on the interior to contend with. Based on my conversations with dealers I won't but a newer US built boat from Beneteau. As I think I mentioned, our interior was not built here. FYI, our next boat could very well be a 45f5...but that's 4-5 years off at least. This is plenty of boat for us now. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... Doug...not ONE of those boats listed matched or even came close to the criteria I listed. no swim platforms OH MY GOD!!! NO SWIM PLATFORMS!!! Max |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... I think you know what a swim platform is. A powerboat feature, generally. RB 35s5--no speed, but what the hell--there is a swim platform. :Chantiers Beneteau NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message Also, the small performance gain for the 33.7 here seems to run hand in hand with a near 7 foot draft which doesn't work for us. The only draft that works for us is beer. As I think I mentioned, our interior was not built here. But did I mention that I'm clueless? FYI, our next boat could very well be a 45f5...but that's 4-5 years off at least. This is plenty of boat for us now. And did I mention that it has a swim platform? RB 35s5--only a Yugo is better value :Chantiers Beneteau NY |
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I think you know what a swim platform is.
A powerboat feature, generally. Don't be silly. Plenty of sailboats now have swim platforms integrated just like the 35s5. RB 35s5 NY |
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Doug...not ONE of those boats listed matched or even came close to the
criteria I listed. no swim platforms OH MY GOD!!! NO SWIM PLATFORMS!!! My friend has a 5 and 1 year old. The swim platform is fantastic for them. It's also great for dinghy use. No reason not to have it. RB 35s5 NY |
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35s5--only a Yugo is better value :Chantiers Beneteau
Golly, Maxipad....you already said you like the boat. You're as bad at this as Jeff. RB 35s5 NY |
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If you are going to dream of owing a superior production boat, you should
take a look at what Swan builds. FYI, our next boat could very well be a 45f5...but that's 4-5 years off at least. This is plenty of boat for us now. RB 35s5 NY |
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If you are going to dream of owing a superior production boat, you
should take a look at what Swan builds. A Swan for local daysailing and weekend cruises on the Sound? Yeah, sure. That makes sense. About as much sense as Jeff's PDQ. RB 35s5 NY |
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Would you really go swimming in the LIS? gross.
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... Doug...not ONE of those boats listed matched or even came close to the criteria I listed. Either no aft cabins, no swim platforms and so on. Good work, Doug. You proved my point. The 35s5 (at the time of her design) was a rare combo of features and speed. Nowadays such a boat is a lot easier to find...for about twice the price. C&C and Kirie were among the very few other contenders. The 35s5 is essentially umatched for her speed and accomodation, unless you spend much more. I bet there's some odd make boats out there that can do the same...but not easy to find, buy or resell. Thanks again for making my point! RB 35s5 NY |
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Would you really go swimming in the LIS? gross.
Swimming in the LIS off a boat is safe and clean. Swimming on beaches is less lean due to sediment contamination. This is one of the reasons we wanted the swim platform as it's a great way to get Thomas acclimated to the water with a higher degree of safety. After performance and the generous cockpit, many owners say the swim platform is a favorite feature. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... I think you know what a swim platform is. A powerboat feature, generally. Don't be silly. Plenty of sailboats now have swim platforms integrated just like the 35s5. RB 35s5 NY Yup. Sailboat are resembling their powered cousins more and more. There is a 380 Catalina hereabouts with a swiveling helm chair. You should consider one of those, Bubbles. Max |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... 35s5--only a Yugo is better value :Chantiers Beneteau Golly, Maxipad....you already said you like the boat. You're as bad at this as Jeff. RB 35s5--biggest goddam swim platform this side of Texas, bar hell. :Chantiers Beneteau NY I like the 35s5 just fine. Since you seem to be clueless, Bubbles, I'll spell it out for you: it's not your boat I'm jousting with, it's your hubris. Humility is an endearing characteristic. You might wish to give it a try. Max |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message ups.com... Doug...not ONE of those boats listed matched or even came close to the criteria I listed. no swim platforms OH MY GOD!!! NO SWIM PLATFORMS!!! My friend has a 5 and 1 year old. The swim platform is fantastic for them. It's also great for dinghy use. No reason not to have it. My lovely CCA-style boat has a low freeboard alongside the cockpit. My 3 y.o. grandson can easily slip over the side into the dink. And we lift my 1 y.o. grandson in with ease. Swim platforms are for power boats and floating docks. g Max |
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Maxprop wrote:
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... 35s5--only a Yugo is better value :Chantiers Beneteau Golly, Maxipad....you already said you like the boat. You're as bad at this as Jeff. RB 35s5--biggest goddam swim platform this side of Texas, bar hell. :Chantiers Beneteau NY I like the 35s5 just fine. Since you seem to be clueless, Bubbles, I'll spell it out for you: it's not your boat I'm jousting with, it's your hubris. Humility is an endearing characteristic. You might wish to give it a try. Max Kinda the pot calling the kettle black isn't it? |
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"Steve Thomas" wrote in message .. . FYI, our next boat could very well be a 45f5...but that's 4-5 years off at least. This is plenty of boat for us now. RB 35s5 NY If you are going to dream of owing a superior production boat, you should take a look at what Swan builds. Oh no, Steve--Bubbles has shown us all just how his Beneteau is considerably superior to Nautor Swan and other like products. Just ask him. Max |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... If you are going to dream of owing a superior production boat, you should take a look at what Swan builds. A Swan for local daysailing and weekend cruises on the Sound? Yeah, sure. That makes sense. About as much sense as Jeff's PDQ. Bubbles: "Wow, just look at the idiot sailing that Swan. What a waste. Dumb *******." Swan skipper: "Hmm. A Bendy 35 over there . . . poor *******." Max |
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Maxprop wrote:
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message ups.com... Doug...not ONE of those boats listed matched or even came close to the criteria I listed. no swim platforms OH MY GOD!!! NO SWIM PLATFORMS!!! My friend has a 5 and 1 year old. The swim platform is fantastic for them. It's also great for dinghy use. No reason not to have it. My lovely CCA-style boat has a low freeboard alongside the cockpit. My 3 y.o. grandson can easily slip over the side into the dink. And we lift my 1 y.o. grandson in with ease. Swim platforms are for power boats and floating docks. g Max And for race boats that want a little extra waterline and for protecting rudders that are proud of the stern. You can lift a 1 y.o. into anything with ease. The sugar scoop stern (racer)aka swim platform (cruiser) is here to stay. Kinda wish I had one. Gaz |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... Would you really go swimming in the LIS? gross. Swimming in the LIS off a boat is safe and clean. Swimming on beaches is less lean due to sediment contamination. This is one of the reasons we wanted the swim platform as it's a great way to get Thomas acclimated to the water with a higher degree of safety. After performance and the generous cockpit, many owners say the swim platform is a favorite feature. Francis Chichester, upon returning to England after having spent a night in a port on LIS remarked, (not an exact quote) 'The Americans have such a wonderful sailing ground there, but they've turned it into a cesspool. How unfortunate.' I believe he made that remark in the 50s or 60s. Max |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... If you are going to dream of owing a superior production boat, you should take a look at what Swan builds. A Swan for local daysailing and weekend cruises on the Sound? Yeah, sure. That makes sense. About as much sense as Jeff's PDQ. Translation; I can't afford one. RB 35s5 it's all I could afford NY |
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Anyone who has stood long watches helming would thing that
a good idea. I've used spinnakers for padding to give my back a break. I'd rate a comfortable helm seat high on my list of priorities. "Maxprop" wrote Yup. Sailboat are resembling their powered cousins more and more. There is a 380 Catalina hereabouts with a swiveling helm chair. You should consider one of those, Bubbles. |
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Oh no, Steve--Bubbles has shown us all just how his Beneteau is
considerably superior to Nautor Swan and other like products. Just ask him. Given our planned usage, please tell everyone what the Swan would do for us that the 35s5 won't. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message Given our planned usage, please tell everyone what the Swan would do for us that the 35s5 won't. Real Teak!!! CM |
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Capt. Rob wrote:
Oh no, Steve--Bubbles has shown us all just how his Beneteau is considerably superior to Nautor Swan and other like products. Just ask him. Given our planned usage, please tell everyone what the Swan would do for us that the 35s5 won't. For starters, I doubt it would do this: http://www.beneteau235.com/f235_rudder.htm On your boat - isn't the rudder also deeper than the keel? Maybe you should leave the navigation to Suzy. |
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For starters, I doubt it would do this:
http://www.beneteau235.com/f235_rudder.htm Uh, Jeff....newsflash....I don't own a 235. I'm sure someone somewhere will be happy you pointed that out though. I wonder if Jeff believes a Swan has fewer problems per boat than a Beneteau First 35s5. He might be surprised to learn than Swan boats are literally plagued with problems, many per boat compared to companies like Catalina or Beneteau. RB 35s5 NY |
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Real Teak!!!
We have real teak veneer. If you have more solid teak (which I doubt) it only makes overproof that much slower than the 35s5. RB 35s5 NY |
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Pathetic build.
"Jeff" wrote Capt. Rob wrote: Oh no, Steve--Bubbles has shown us all just how his Beneteau is considerably superior to Nautor Swan and other like products. Just ask him. Given our planned usage, please tell everyone what the Swan would do for us that the 35s5 won't. For starters, I doubt it would do this: http://www.beneteau235.com/f235_rudder.htm On your boat - isn't the rudder also deeper than the keel? Maybe you should leave the navigation to Suzy. |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... Oh no, Steve--Bubbles has shown us all just how his Beneteau is considerably superior to Nautor Swan and other like products. Just ask him. Given our planned usage, please tell everyone what the Swan would do for us that the 35s5 won't. RB Mac35x5 NY Give you more bragging rights on ASA. SV |
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Big deal. My boat has real solid teak. It's a pain to keep
oiling it. I think that plastic coated veneer fake teak is better. Of course some folks "like" oiling thier teak. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message news:xYojf.141668$yS6.13075@clgrps12... "Capt. Rob" wrote in message Given our planned usage, please tell everyone what the Swan would do for us that the 35s5 won't. Real Teak!!! Big deal. My boat has real solid teak. It's a pain to keep oiling it. I think that plastic coated veneer fake teak is better. Scotty |
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Give you more bragging rights on ASA.
If I bought a Swan I assure you Crantz would find races it lost, Max would find deck problems and Jeff would claim his boat was faster 77% off the wind. RB 35s5 NY |
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