Capt. Rob wrote:
I'm looking for a racer/cruiser that meets the following criteria:


http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p..._boats=1301803

http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p..._boats=1352300

You could get this one & visit Joe
http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p..._boats=1128943

Lovely Scandinavian
http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p..._boats=1452932

http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p..._boats=1463562

Slightly snazzier version, slightly cheaper too
http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p...oat_id=1265646

I'm considering taking a look at this one myself
http://yachtworld.com/core/listing/p..._boats=1403333

There's a whole lot more, haven't even covered half the
alphabet for the 36 footers. Just trying to help.

The big problem for Bubbles though is that all these boats
exist OUTside the Matrix. And of course they all cost actual
money instead of pretend usenet blowhard money.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Doug...not ONE of those boats listed matched or even came close to the
criteria I listed. Either no aft cabins, no swim platforms and so on.
Good work, Doug.
You proved my point. The 35s5 (at the time of her design) was a rare
combo of features and speed. Nowadays such a boat is a lot easier to
find...for about twice the price. C&C and Kirie were among the very few
other contenders.
The 35s5 is essentially umatched for her speed and accomodation, unless
you spend much more. I bet there's some odd make boats out there that
can do the same...but not easy to find, buy or resell.
Thanks again for making my point!

RB
35s5
NY

Capt. Rob wrote:
Doug...not ONE of those boats listed matched or even came close to the
criteria I listed.

Yes they did.

... Either no aft cabins

You want a center cockpit boat?

... no swim platforms

Every last one had at least a ladder & platform, some had
open transoms and/or scoops. Every last one was
significantly faster.


Good work, Doug.

Thank you

You proved my point.

That you're a lying blowhard who doesn't actually have a boat?

DSK

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Doug...not ONE of those boats listed matched or even came close to the
criteria I listed. no swim platforms

OH MY GOD!!! NO SWIM PLATFORMS!!!


Max

Doug...not ONE of those boats listed matched or even came close to the
criteria I listed. no swim platforms

OH MY GOD!!! NO SWIM PLATFORMS!!!

My friend has a 5 and 1 year old. The swim platform is fantastic for
them. It's also great for dinghy use. No reason not to have it.

RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Doug...not ONE of those boats listed matched or even came close to the
criteria I listed. no swim platforms

OH MY GOD!!! NO SWIM PLATFORMS!!!

My friend has a 5 and 1 year old. The swim platform is fantastic for
them. It's also great for dinghy use. No reason not to have it.

My lovely CCA-style boat has a low freeboard alongside the cockpit. My 3
y.o. grandson can easily slip over the side into the dink. And we lift my 1
y.o. grandson in with ease. Swim platforms are for power boats and floating
docks. g

Max

Maxprop wrote:
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...

Doug...not ONE of those boats listed matched or even came close to the
criteria I listed. no swim platforms

OH MY GOD!!! NO SWIM PLATFORMS!!!

My friend has a 5 and 1 year old. The swim platform is fantastic for
them. It's also great for dinghy use. No reason not to have it.


My lovely CCA-style boat has a low freeboard alongside the cockpit. My 3
y.o. grandson can easily slip over the side into the dink. And we lift my 1
y.o. grandson in with ease. Swim platforms are for power boats and floating
docks. g

Max


And for race boats that want a little extra waterline and for protecting
rudders that are proud of the stern. You can lift a 1 y.o. into
anything with ease. The sugar scoop stern (racer)aka swim platform
(cruiser) is here to stay. Kinda wish I had one.

Gaz

"Gary" wrote in message
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Maxprop wrote:
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...

Doug...not ONE of those boats listed matched or even came close to the
criteria I listed. no swim platforms

OH MY GOD!!! NO SWIM PLATFORMS!!!

My friend has a 5 and 1 year old. The swim platform is fantastic for
them. It's also great for dinghy use. No reason not to have it.


My lovely CCA-style boat has a low freeboard alongside the cockpit. My 3
y.o. grandson can easily slip over the side into the dink. And we lift
my 1 y.o. grandson in with ease. Swim platforms are for power boats and
floating docks. g

Max
And for race boats that want a little extra waterline and for protecting
rudders that are proud of the stern. You can lift a 1 y.o. into anything
with ease. The sugar scoop stern (racer)aka swim platform (cruiser) is
here to stay.


Yup, they are. So are Chris Bangle's ugly new BMW auto designs. No
accounting for aesthetic taste these days. Actually I have only one thing
against arytenoid sterns with platforms--they tend to be found on boats with
exaggerated beam carried aft. Most of these boats tend to drag their sterns
horribly. If they did not, I believe they'd all be faster and accelerate
more easily. These sterns are strictly a compromise--hullplan efficiency
traded for comfort and convenience. In their favor they are convenient for
older or less agile people to board from dinghies, and they are a nice place
from which to pee when underway.

Max

Would you really go swimming in the LIS? gross.

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...

Doug...not ONE of those boats listed matched or even came close to the
criteria I listed. Either no aft cabins, no swim platforms and so on.
Good work, Doug.
You proved my point. The 35s5 (at the time of her design) was a rare
combo of features and speed. Nowadays such a boat is a lot easier to
find...for about twice the price. C&C and Kirie were among the very few
other contenders.
The 35s5 is essentially umatched for her speed and accomodation, unless
you spend much more. I bet there's some odd make boats out there that
can do the same...but not easy to find, buy or resell.
Thanks again for making my point!

RB
35s5
NY

Would you really go swimming in the LIS? gross.


Swimming in the LIS off a boat is safe and clean. Swimming on beaches
is less lean due to sediment contamination. This is one of the reasons
we wanted the swim platform as it's a great way to get Thomas
acclimated to the water with a higher degree of safety. After
performance and the generous cockpit, many owners say the swim platform
is a favorite feature.

RB
35s5
NY