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Here ya go, Sloco!

http://www.hospicecareflorida.org/Re...esults2003.htm

35s5 Mistral wins overall in class and beats some NICE faster boats. I
know, this race doesn't count because it was too windy, or too calm or
too few boats or two many....puh-lease! Looks like the 35s5 does okay
for itself. And Bob Crantz posted 4-5 links to 35s5's losing. I can do
that with the C&C 99 fer cripes sake...or any boat in handicap racing,
which you well know. And why did the 35s5 beat the Express 35 in the
link I posted a few days back?
I've now posted 5 links showing wins for the 35s5 and there are very
few around.
Welcome to your nightmare, Sloco! You have the slower boat, slower
car....you're just slower!

Bwahahahahahahahahha! (This one's dedicated to you G.H.)


RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt. Rob" wrote ...
So tell us Bob, if someone has already won the regatta, and the last
race is a throwout, how seriously do you think they take the race?

........ Racers take NO races lightly! If they're in it, they want to win
badly.

If we were talking F-1 cars or bikes, or even drag racers or open ocean
events I'd agree with you but a short sprint race for SAIL BOATS??? C'mon
guys, isn't that a notch or three down from racing lawn mowers? Sure its a
lot of fun but that's it - fun. How anybody can take it seriously beats me.
That'd take the fun out of it.

Quibbling over a few knots on boats that can't keep up with a hotel on a
barge (cruise ship) is kind of silly don't you think.

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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All that doesn't mean squat if it can't win the regatta.


Doesn't mean squat? You mean you can't learn anything from a 35s5
beating or even close behind a C&C 99? That's too bad. Here's what it
tells me...you go right ahead and let me know if this is wrong: The
35s5 will be a fun and quick boat for cruising and day sailing the LIS
areas, be faster than most cruisers and keep pace with a lot of fast
boats to boot.

That may very well be true, but it is impossible to extrapolate that from
the race results you cite as an example, for reasons given in another post
(ie--skipper, rather than boat, being the major factor in such racing). I
have no doubt that you'll thoroughly enjoy your new boat, but be prepared to
see purportedly slower boats passing you in addition to passing supposedly
faster boats. Boat speed is only one factor--the ability of the nut on the
helm has far more to do with how fast you go. Sail trim, condition of
sails, condition of your bottom, current, wave conditions, wind--all are
factors which will dictate who goes faster at any given time. Theoretical
boat speed ain't the alpha and omega of going fast. You'd know that if
you'd ever spent any time on a race course. Which brings me to my next
point: racers make tremendously better sailors than non-racers. See it
every day on the water.

You only have to talk to owners...and you're welcome
to...to see how many races the 35s5 wins. You're all welcome to ask
owners via the Sailnet or google Beneteau lists.
But something tells me you won't want to do that. You sure won't like
hearing how well the 35s5 does. Everyone got REAL quiet when I posted
the following:

Don't be ridiculous. Odds are I'll never meet you vis-a-vis, ever see you
or your boat sailing, and couldn't care less how your boat performs in real
time. I am happy, however, to debunk your silly claims of the superiority
of your boat when you really have nothing to support it beyond the
potentially equally silly claims of others. You don't very often hear
someone say, "Well, I've got this new J109, but it's a real dog, slower than
my grandmother on her walker, built like ****, and ugly to boot." Everyone
prefers to think of their boat in positive terms.

"The Charleston Ocean Racing Association's annual Witches' Brew regatta

was raced in the harbor Oct. 30. As with its Femme Fatale race in the
spring, CORA requires a female skipper for each boat in the Witches'
Brew. Though Charleston has produced many outstanding female sailors,
as noted often in this column, the big boats seem to almost always have

men at the helm. These two races do a lot to promote women's
participation and demonstrate their skills. Deb Campeau skippered
Hoodoo, a J/109, to first place in the A fleet. Caroline Byrd was at
the helm of the J/24 Footloose and won the B fleet. Kristy Kowert
skippered Andiamo, a Beneteau 35s5, to first place in C, and Judy
Fair-child was at the helm of Absolu, another 35s5 Beneteau, and took
the honors in D fleet."

Good skippers, Bubbles. The boat played a role, but not the major one. As
I said before and probably will say again, you'd know this if you'd ever
spent time on a race course. Don't bother to lie about your extensive
racing career--you've already given ample evidence that it never happened.

Max

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"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Maxprop" wrote in
Hell, they want to pass boats they aren't racing! The 35s5
BEAT the C&C
99. It beat the J Boats. and In another link I posted a few
days back,
it BEAT his beloved Express 35!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ohhh
noooooo!


His expertise is only on subject about which he knows
absolutely nothing.


RB 35s5--okay, so it finishes last--at least it has a BIG
swim platform


Bob even races boats that are tied up in their slips. And
sometimes he wins.

The only race Bubbles has ever been part of is the human race, and he's not
doing terribly well in that one.

Max

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
BS. Sailboat racers are pragmatic like everyone else. If you already
have
five first place finishes in a regatta and no throwout yet, you pack up
the
boat and leave for home a bit early. "Mail me my trophy, please."


I'm sorry that this represents the type of sailors you know. It's just
not the case here.

How would you know, never having raced? Get close to a thousand races under
your belt and then come back and talk to me.

My friends love racing and can't get enough.

I love rum and can't get enough. Does that make me a distiller? Your
friends must be rank amateurs.

The
last thing they ever want to do is head home early.
What a sad, sad, very sad attitude your "sailors" have.

The attitude 'my sailors' have is borne of decades of racing experience.
The attitude 'your sailors' possess is borne of "golly gee, this newfangled
racing thing sure is lots 'o fun, sure 'nuff. Where the hell is the
restroom?"

Max

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3 things contribute to winning a sailboat race. Boat speed, crew work
and driver/tactics. Without one you loose.

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Sure its a
lot of fun but that's it - fun. How anybody can take it seriously
beats me.
That'd take the fun out of it.


I agree with you and I really only wants a boat that was fun to sail.
It's Sloco who's crazy over my boat being faster. Does it matter? Only
to him. I've had great sails on "slow" boats as well. There's really no
such thing as a fast sailboat.

RB
35s5
NY

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That may very well be true, but it is impossible to extrapolate that
from
the race results you cite as an example, for reasons given in another
post


Snap out of it, Maxi. I've posted more than one link showing the 35s5
winning and winning regatas as well as singles. The 35s5's rating as
stood for quite a while. My boat could drift faster than your
undercanvased sea anchor and that's a fact!

http://www.banderasbayregatta.com/sp...esultados.html


35s5 did pretty well here as well...


http://www.trondhjems-seilforening.n...05/sammenh.htm


Oops...35s5 gets some bacon overseas as well!


http://www.littoral-ouest.com/index....=1&idn=%206798

RB
35s5
NY

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"Swab Rob" wrote


It's Sloco who's crazy over my boat

It's not so much that Loco doesn't like your boat, he just
doesn't like you.

SV

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"rgnmstr" wrote in message
oups.com...
3 things contribute to winning a sailboat race. Boat speed, crew work
and driver/tactics. Without one you loose.

I'm not exactly sure what you've included in your third category, but an
ability to read wind and puffs on the water, local knowledge on inland
lakes, and understanding currents and waves are important.

Max