Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

Jeff and Doug claim that the final race in a series is taken less
seriously by racers!!!

I've never met a racer who EVER took any race lightly. They want to win
everytime and work hard to do better no matter how far ahead they might
be.

Jeff, who doesn't own a proper sailboat is now king of the fools! Doug
is a powerboater and still feels the need to chime in like an idiot.
Who new someone could be dumber than Sloco? Who knew TWO people could
be dumber?

Runnerup: Doug telling Ozzy "nice boat" after Ozzy posts pics of one of
the ugliest cats ever. It's as though he desperately needs his love!
Mooron, always a man, acted like a man and spared no one's feelings!

Amazing!!!!

RB
35s5
NY

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

Poor Booby just shows he knows nothing about racing. I've raced in
hundreds of one design races, and been on race committees for
hundreds, if not thousands more. And I expect Doug has done even more
racing than I.

So tell us Bob, if someone has already won the regatta, and the last
race is a throwout, how seriously do you think they take the race? Do
you think he might give the helm to someone else? Let another crew
work foredeck? Do they even bother to start?

How about if there are two boats in the lead coming into the last
race, and all of the others are out of it? Do you think that maybe
they'll let the last place boat go off on a flyer the might pay off?

Sorry, booby. The Bene was in last place after 7 races; the fact that
the won the last one doesn't mean squat. Except, of course, that you
know nothing about racing.



Capt. Rob wrote:
Jeff and Doug claim that the final race in a series is taken less
seriously by racers!!!

I've never met a racer who EVER took any race lightly. They want to win
everytime and work hard to do better no matter how far ahead they might
be.

Jeff, who doesn't own a proper sailboat is now king of the fools! Doug
is a powerboater and still feels the need to chime in like an idiot.
Who new someone could be dumber than Sloco? Who knew TWO people could
be dumber?

Runnerup: Doug telling Ozzy "nice boat" after Ozzy posts pics of one of
the ugliest cats ever. It's as though he desperately needs his love!
Mooron, always a man, acted like a man and spared no one's feelings!

Amazing!!!!

RB
35s5
NY

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

Maybe in the Matrix the last race is the most important.

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

Poor Swabbie, constantly displaying how clueless
he is. He will never recover from it.

Swabbie Robbie wrote:
Jeff and Doug claim that the final race in a series is taken less
seriously by racers!!!

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

So tell us Bob, if someone has already won the regatta, and the last
race is a throwout, how seriously do you think they take the race?


But that wasn't the case with the race we were discussing, now was it??
Hmmmm?
Ooops!
Racers take NO races lightly! If they're in it, they want to win badly.
Hell, they want to pass boats they aren't racing! The 35s5 BEAT the C&C
99. It beat the J Boats. and In another link I posted a few days back,
it BEAT his beloved Express 35!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ohhh noooooo!


RB
35s5
NY

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

Nutsy;

Wise up! The last Race is the most common race as the "Throw out" race
of the series.



http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

Wise up! The last Race is the most common race as the "Throw out" race

of the series.


Thom, whatsda matta wit ya? Don't you know me at all by now?
I've yet to meet a sailor who'd treat any race like a throwaway. I
guess Sloco and Jeff don't know very serious racers.


RB
35s5
NY

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

The 35s5 BEAT the C&C 99. It beat the J Boats.

In the final results however the 35s5 was beat by a little ole J27 and
an little old Lindenberg 28 among others.

35s5 end of the pack.

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

"If you wrestle with a pig you both get dirty and the pig loves it".

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Nutsy;

Wise up! The last Race is the most common race as the "Throw out" race
of the series.

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

"If you wrestle with a pig you both get dirty and the pig loves it".



You kinky *******!
You're still coming sailing with us in the spring, right? Need some
tips on this fractional rig.

RB
35s5
NY

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

Capt. Rob wrote:
So tell us Bob, if someone has already won the regatta, and the last
race is a throwout, how seriously do you think they take the race?


But that wasn't the case with the race we were discussing, now was it??
Hmmmm?

No, it was the other scenario, as I already explained. Three boats
were in contention coming into the last race. The Bene was in last
place, a few points behind the j30. The first three boats paid no
attention to the bene who probably took a flyer. You do know what
taking a flyer means, don't you? Probably not.

Ooops!

That was Bob, wetting his pants again.

Racers take NO races lightly! If they're in it, they want to win badly.

Sorry, you just don't understand. Racers want to win regattas.
Individual races are not important. You've never raced, how would you
know? I can't count the number of times I've seen a coach berate
someone (me, a few times) for letting the real competition go while
focusing on the wrong boat.

Hell, they want to pass boats they aren't racing! The 35s5 BEAT the C&C
99. It beat the J Boats. and In another link I posted a few days back,
it BEAT his beloved Express 35!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ohhh noooooo!

Gawd, you do go on so. Why do you try so hard to prove you're stupid?
Keep digging, boobie! You're almost to China!



RB - dumber than a bagful of gudgeons.
35s5
NY

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

But that wasn't the case with the race we were discussing, now was it??
Hmmmm?

No, it was the other scenario, as I already explained.


Ohhhhhhh...so I guess the 35s5 DID beat the C&C 99 then! Thanks!!!!

Jeff = worst debator ever!


RB
NY

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
Jeff and Doug claim that the final race in a series is taken less
seriously by racers!!!

I've never met a racer

It seems you could have stopped there and still been accurate.

who EVER took any race lightly. They want to win
everytime and work hard to do better no matter how far ahead they might
be.

BS. Sailboat racers are pragmatic like everyone else. If you already have
five first place finishes in a regatta and no throwout yet, you pack up the
boat and leave for home a bit early. "Mail me my trophy, please."


Jeff, who doesn't own a proper sailboat is now king of the fools! Doug
is a powerboater and still feels the need to chime in like an idiot.

Doug knows more about sailboats and sailing than most here, and waaay more
than you. Of course you make this obvious every time you open your pie
hole.



Amazing!!!!

You are. You truly are.

RB
35s5--why buy a race boat when you can have a pretend one? :Chantiers
Beneteau
NY

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

"Jeff" wrote in message
...
Poor Booby just shows he knows nothing about racing. I've raced in
hundreds of one design races, and been on race committees for hundreds, if
not thousands more. And I expect Doug has done even more racing than I.

So tell us Bob, if someone has already won the regatta, and the last race
is a throwout, how seriously do you think they take the race? Do you
think he might give the helm to someone else? Let another crew work
foredeck? Do they even bother to start?

Not normally. Apparently Bubbles never noticed how few boats sail the last
race or two of major regattas. Those finishing out of the hardware
generally forego the last race as well.


How about if there are two boats in the lead coming into the last race,
and all of the others are out of it? Do you think that maybe they'll let
the last place boat go off on a flyer the might pay off?

Sorry, booby. The Bene was in last place after 7 races; the fact that the
won the last one doesn't mean squat. Except, of course, that you know
nothing about racing.

Go easy on him, Jeff. He *believes* he bought a race boat.


Max

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
So tell us Bob, if someone has already won the regatta, and the last
race is a throwout, how seriously do you think they take the race?


But that wasn't the case with the race we were discussing, now was it??
Hmmmm?
Ooops!
Racers take NO races lightly! If they're in it, they want to win badly.
Hell, they want to pass boats they aren't racing! The 35s5 BEAT the C&C
99. It beat the J Boats. and In another link I posted a few days back,
it BEAT his beloved Express 35!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ohhh noooooo!

All that doesn't mean squat if it can't win the regatta.

Max

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Capt. Rob wrote:
So tell us Bob, if someone has already won the regatta, and the last
race is a throwout, how seriously do you think they take the race?


But that wasn't the case with the race we were discussing, now was it??
Hmmmm?

No, it was the other scenario, as I already explained. Three boats were
in contention coming into the last race. The Bene was in last place, a
few points behind the j30. The first three boats paid no attention to the
bene who probably took a flyer. You do know what taking a flyer means,
don't you?

Really, Jeff.

Ooops!

That was Bob, wetting his pants again.

Racers take NO races lightly! If they're in it, they want to win badly.

Sorry, you just don't understand. Racers want to win regattas. Individual
races are not important. You've never raced, how would you know? I can't
count the number of times I've seen a coach berate someone (me, a few
times) for letting the real competition go while focusing on the wrong
boat.

Hell, they want to pass boats they aren't racing! The 35s5 BEAT the C&C
99. It beat the J Boats. and In another link I posted a few days back,
it BEAT his beloved Express 35!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ohhh noooooo!

Gawd, you do go on so. Why do you try so hard to prove you're stupid?
Keep digging, boobie! You're almost to China!

His expertise is only on subject about which he knows absolutely nothing.


RB 35s5--okay, so it finishes last--at least it has a BIG swim platform
NY

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

All that doesn't mean squat if it can't win the regatta.


Doesn't mean squat? You mean you can't learn anything from a 35s5
beating or even close behind a C&C 99? That's too bad. Here's what it
tells me...you go right ahead and let me know if this is wrong: The
35s5 will be a fun and quick boat for cruising and day sailing the LIS
areas, be faster than most cruisers and keep pace with a lot of fast
boats to boot. You only have to talk to owners...and you're welcome
to...to see how many races the 35s5 wins. You're all welcome to ask
owners via the Sailnet or google Beneteau lists.
But something tells me you won't want to do that. You sure won't like
hearing how well the 35s5 does. Everyone got REAL quiet when I posted
the following:

"The Charleston Ocean Racing Association's annual Witches' Brew regatta

was raced in the harbor Oct. 30. As with its Femme Fatale race in the
spring, CORA requires a female skipper for each boat in the Witches'
Brew. Though Charleston has produced many outstanding female sailors,
as noted often in this column, the big boats seem to almost always have

men at the helm. These two races do a lot to promote women's
participation and demonstrate their skills. Deb Campeau skippered
Hoodoo, a J/109, to first place in the A fleet. Caroline Byrd was at
the helm of the J/24 Footloose and won the B fleet. Kristy Kowert
skippered Andiamo, a Beneteau 35s5, to first place in C, and Judy
Fair-child was at the helm of Absolu, another 35s5 Beneteau, and took
the honors in D fleet."


RB
35s5
NY

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

BS. Sailboat racers are pragmatic like everyone else. If you already
have
five first place finishes in a regatta and no throwout yet, you pack up
the
boat and leave for home a bit early. "Mail me my trophy, please."


I'm sorry that this represents the type of sailors you know. It's just
not the case here. My friends love racing and can't get enough. The
last thing they ever want to do is head home early.
What a sad, sad, very sad attitude your "sailors" have.

RB
35s5
NY

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

"Maxprop" wrote in
Hell, they want to pass boats they aren't racing! The 35s5
BEAT the C&C
99. It beat the J Boats. and In another link I posted a few
days back,
it BEAT his beloved Express 35!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ohhh
noooooo!


His expertise is only on subject about which he knows
absolutely nothing.


RB 35s5--okay, so it finishes last--at least it has a BIG
swim platform


Bob even races boats that are tied up in their slips. And
sometimes he wins.

SV

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

Everyone got REAL quiet when I posted the following:
"The Charleston Ocean Racing Association's annual Witches' Brew
regatta

Everyone was quiet because they fell asleep. Who ever heard of that
"regatta" 5 boats in it's class! After 2 weeks of searching the web
you came up with a 35s5 "winning" a nothing event. Any results from
some major events Boobie? Key West Race Week, Chi-Mac, Annapolis Race
Week, Screwpile Regatta, Block Island? From the 20 or so score cards
that others have posted the 35s5 can't even win a club race. Most of
the time it can't even finish ahead of the fleet that started 5 minutes
after it did. Maybe you'll do Block Island next summer and finish
ahead of the pack. That will surely shut everyone up.

35s5 ........... end of the pack!

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

Here ya go, Sloco!

http://www.hospicecareflorida.org/Re...esults2003.htm

35s5 Mistral wins overall in class and beats some NICE faster boats. I
know, this race doesn't count because it was too windy, or too calm or
too few boats or two many....puh-lease! Looks like the 35s5 does okay
for itself. And Bob Crantz posted 4-5 links to 35s5's losing. I can do
that with the C&C 99 fer cripes sake...or any boat in handicap racing,
which you well know. And why did the 35s5 beat the Express 35 in the
link I posted a few days back?
I've now posted 5 links showing wins for the 35s5 and there are very
few around.
Welcome to your nightmare, Sloco! You have the slower boat, slower
car....you're just slower!

Bwahahahahahahahahha! (This one's dedicated to you G.H.)


RB
35s5
NY

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote ...
So tell us Bob, if someone has already won the regatta, and the last
race is a throwout, how seriously do you think they take the race?

........ Racers take NO races lightly! If they're in it, they want to win
badly.

If we were talking F-1 cars or bikes, or even drag racers or open ocean
events I'd agree with you but a short sprint race for SAIL BOATS??? C'mon
guys, isn't that a notch or three down from racing lawn mowers? Sure its a
lot of fun but that's it - fun. How anybody can take it seriously beats me.
That'd take the fun out of it.

Quibbling over a few knots on boats that can't keep up with a hotel on a
barge (cruise ship) is kind of silly don't you think.

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
All that doesn't mean squat if it can't win the regatta.


Doesn't mean squat? You mean you can't learn anything from a 35s5
beating or even close behind a C&C 99? That's too bad. Here's what it
tells me...you go right ahead and let me know if this is wrong: The
35s5 will be a fun and quick boat for cruising and day sailing the LIS
areas, be faster than most cruisers and keep pace with a lot of fast
boats to boot.

That may very well be true, but it is impossible to extrapolate that from
the race results you cite as an example, for reasons given in another post
(ie--skipper, rather than boat, being the major factor in such racing). I
have no doubt that you'll thoroughly enjoy your new boat, but be prepared to
see purportedly slower boats passing you in addition to passing supposedly
faster boats. Boat speed is only one factor--the ability of the nut on the
helm has far more to do with how fast you go. Sail trim, condition of
sails, condition of your bottom, current, wave conditions, wind--all are
factors which will dictate who goes faster at any given time. Theoretical
boat speed ain't the alpha and omega of going fast. You'd know that if
you'd ever spent any time on a race course. Which brings me to my next
point: racers make tremendously better sailors than non-racers. See it
every day on the water.

You only have to talk to owners...and you're welcome
to...to see how many races the 35s5 wins. You're all welcome to ask
owners via the Sailnet or google Beneteau lists.
But something tells me you won't want to do that. You sure won't like
hearing how well the 35s5 does. Everyone got REAL quiet when I posted
the following:

Don't be ridiculous. Odds are I'll never meet you vis-a-vis, ever see you
or your boat sailing, and couldn't care less how your boat performs in real
time. I am happy, however, to debunk your silly claims of the superiority
of your boat when you really have nothing to support it beyond the
potentially equally silly claims of others. You don't very often hear
someone say, "Well, I've got this new J109, but it's a real dog, slower than
my grandmother on her walker, built like ****, and ugly to boot." Everyone
prefers to think of their boat in positive terms.

"The Charleston Ocean Racing Association's annual Witches' Brew regatta

was raced in the harbor Oct. 30. As with its Femme Fatale race in the
spring, CORA requires a female skipper for each boat in the Witches'
Brew. Though Charleston has produced many outstanding female sailors,
as noted often in this column, the big boats seem to almost always have

men at the helm. These two races do a lot to promote women's
participation and demonstrate their skills. Deb Campeau skippered
Hoodoo, a J/109, to first place in the A fleet. Caroline Byrd was at
the helm of the J/24 Footloose and won the B fleet. Kristy Kowert
skippered Andiamo, a Beneteau 35s5, to first place in C, and Judy
Fair-child was at the helm of Absolu, another 35s5 Beneteau, and took
the honors in D fleet."

Good skippers, Bubbles. The boat played a role, but not the major one. As
I said before and probably will say again, you'd know this if you'd ever
spent time on a race course. Don't bother to lie about your extensive
racing career--you've already given ample evidence that it never happened.

Max

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Maxprop" wrote in
Hell, they want to pass boats they aren't racing! The 35s5
BEAT the C&C
99. It beat the J Boats. and In another link I posted a few
days back,
it BEAT his beloved Express 35!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ohhh
noooooo!


His expertise is only on subject about which he knows
absolutely nothing.


RB 35s5--okay, so it finishes last--at least it has a BIG
swim platform


Bob even races boats that are tied up in their slips. And
sometimes he wins.

The only race Bubbles has ever been part of is the human race, and he's not
doing terribly well in that one.

Max

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
BS. Sailboat racers are pragmatic like everyone else. If you already
have
five first place finishes in a regatta and no throwout yet, you pack up
the
boat and leave for home a bit early. "Mail me my trophy, please."


I'm sorry that this represents the type of sailors you know. It's just
not the case here.

How would you know, never having raced? Get close to a thousand races under
your belt and then come back and talk to me.

My friends love racing and can't get enough.

I love rum and can't get enough. Does that make me a distiller? Your
friends must be rank amateurs.

The
last thing they ever want to do is head home early.
What a sad, sad, very sad attitude your "sailors" have.

The attitude 'my sailors' have is borne of decades of racing experience.
The attitude 'your sailors' possess is borne of "golly gee, this newfangled
racing thing sure is lots 'o fun, sure 'nuff. Where the hell is the
restroom?"

Max

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

3 things contribute to winning a sailboat race. Boat speed, crew work
and driver/tactics. Without one you loose.

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

Sure its a
lot of fun but that's it - fun. How anybody can take it seriously
beats me.
That'd take the fun out of it.


I agree with you and I really only wants a boat that was fun to sail.
It's Sloco who's crazy over my boat being faster. Does it matter? Only
to him. I've had great sails on "slow" boats as well. There's really no
such thing as a fast sailboat.

RB
35s5
NY

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

That may very well be true, but it is impossible to extrapolate that
from
the race results you cite as an example, for reasons given in another
post


Snap out of it, Maxi. I've posted more than one link showing the 35s5
winning and winning regatas as well as singles. The 35s5's rating as
stood for quite a while. My boat could drift faster than your
undercanvased sea anchor and that's a fact!

http://www.banderasbayregatta.com/sp...esultados.html


35s5 did pretty well here as well...


http://www.trondhjems-seilforening.n...05/sammenh.htm


Oops...35s5 gets some bacon overseas as well!


http://www.littoral-ouest.com/index....=1&idn=%206798

RB
35s5
NY

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

"Swab Rob" wrote


It's Sloco who's crazy over my boat

It's not so much that Loco doesn't like your boat, he just
doesn't like you.

SV

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

"rgnmstr" wrote in message
oups.com...
3 things contribute to winning a sailboat race. Boat speed, crew work
and driver/tactics. Without one you loose.

I'm not exactly sure what you've included in your third category, but an
ability to read wind and puffs on the water, local knowledge on inland
lakes, and understanding currents and waves are important.

Max

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
That may very well be true, but it is impossible to extrapolate that
from
the race results you cite as an example, for reasons given in another
post


Snap out of it, Maxi. I've posted more than one link showing the 35s5
winning and winning regatas as well as singles. The 35s5's rating as
stood for quite a while. My boat could drift faster than your
undercanvased sea anchor and that's a fact!

Is that supposed to hurt my feelings, Bubbles? Is that supposed to make me
angry? I sure as hell hope a boat like the 35s5 would be faster than a
smaller CCA-type racer, or half a century of technology, engineering, and
design are all for squat. The funny part is that I could probably beat you
on just about any course or conditions. The difference in boat speed
wouldn't be enough to compensate for your ineptitude and lack of racing
experience.

You really don't get it, do ya, Bubbles. Scotty summed it up well: most of
us think your boat is great. It's you we can't stand.

Max

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

It's Sloco who's crazy over my boat being faster. Does it matter?
Only
to him.

You live under delusions of grandur.

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

Amen. You said it bro!

"Maxprop" wrote
You really don't get it, do ya, Bubbles. Scotty summed it up well: most
of us think your boat is great. It's you we can't stand.

Dumb Statement of the Day!
 

It's Sloco who's crazy over my boat being faster. Does it matter?
Only
to him.
You live under delusions of grandur.


Poor Sloco makes my point for me. What makes my boat better for us is
her accomodations and comfort. Sloco will never get it. He thinks a
boat that's a few seconds faster is "grandur."
Nuff said.

RB
35s5
NY