You really don't get this, do you? It isn't about not racing, though
I'm sure it happens in PHRF racing, but it wasn't common in the
collegiate racing I did, simply because it isn't fair to other teams
teams that came a long way to compete against a full fleet.

However, the strategy changes in the last race. A boat that is in
last place for a regatta is left to do whatever it wants, and thus has
its best shot at winning an individual race. Meanwhile, the silver is
being won elsewhere on the course by the real racers. This isn't a
hypothetical situation; it happens in almost every regatta.

Ask one of your racing friends, if they really exist. Maybe they'll
explain it to you real slow, using small words.


Capt. Rob wrote:
What happened to the fun of sailing? Why miss a race? Let someone
else
skipper, change jobs, do anything but sit on the dock. It's not about
winning, it's about sailing.


Gary, these people are full of ****e. They know full well that lots of
folks LOVE to race and sail and don't miss a race if they can help it.
They don't look to go home early and race EVERY race hard. I'm hoping
their just trolling, because I'd be sad to hear of someone who sails or
races with that attitude. In a series of races, such as the J24 series
here, the heat builds up more and more through each race. Everyone is
trying hard and the last race is no less important than the first
because EVERY race is worth winning. My ex-girlfriend races that
way...and wins. In fact she just won some silver with her new Catalina
30.

RB
35s5
NY

However, the strategy changes in the last race. A boat that is in
last place for a regatta is left to do whatever it wants, and thus has
its best shot at winning an individual race. Meanwhile, the silver is
being won elsewhere on the course by the real racers. This isn't a
hypothetical situation; it happens in almost every regatta.



Jeff, look at the race I posted. Is the C&C still trying for best time
in the last race? What about the J27? But HERE, I'll make it easier for
ya....and everyone else...here's the same boat, Mistral....taking 1st
overall.

http://www.hospicecareflorida.org/Re...esults2003.htm

And beating my beloved C&C 37+ in the process. Buh buy, Jeff!!!!

RB
35s5
NY

Maybe you could tell the group what the ARC class is.

and again, Sloco....

Charleston Ocean Racing Association (CORA) Fall Race #2, Sept. 4
(harbor)--Fleet winners (boat name, boat type, owner): Fleet A:
Emotion, J/120, Hanckel; Fleet B: Luce Goose, J/24, Scribner; Fleet C:
Andiamo, Beneteau 35s5, Kowert; Fleet D: Dissipation, Tartan 30, Burke


RB
35s5
NY

Capt. Rob wrote:
However, the strategy changes in the last race. A boat that is in
last place for a regatta is left to do whatever it wants, and thus has
its best shot at winning an individual race. Meanwhile, the silver is
being won elsewhere on the course by the real racers. This isn't a
hypothetical situation; it happens in almost every regatta.



Jeff, look at the race I posted. Is the C&C still trying for best time
in the last race?

No, he wasn't. You really don't get it, do you? The C&C wanted to
win the regatta, not the race. The C&C was in first place and only
had to beat the J27 (actually beat him by several minutes) to win the
division. We can only speculate about what transpired, but two things
are certain: The C&C didn't care at all about the Beneteau, and you
know nothing about racing.

What about the J27?

The J27 had a bigger challenge - he had to beat both the C&C and the
Lindenberg to win, which he did. He also didn't care about the Bene.


But HERE, I'll make it easier for
ya....and everyone else...here's the same boat, Mistral....taking 1st
overall.

http://www.hospicecareflorida.org/Re...esults2003.htm

What's the point? Its handicap racing, which measures the skill of
the skipper, not the speed of the boat. Its clear the Craig Setzer is
a talented skipper since he seems to show up in almost every race you
posted. Also, his boat is clearly well setup, since its featured by a
rigger as the fully tricked out boat.

This is pretty pathetic, even for you booby. Don't worry, you'll be
able to tell your friends that you could win a race, if you actually
wanted to.


And beating my beloved C&C 37+ in the process. Buh buy, Jeff!!!!

RB - a non-racer who thinks owning a racing boat is cool
35s5 - a ladies boat
NY

"Jeff" wrote
No, he wasn't. You really don't get it, do you? The C&C wanted to
win the regatta, not the race. The C&C was in first place and only
had to beat the J27 (actually beat him by several minutes) to win the
division. We can only speculate about what transpired, but two things
are certain: The C&C didn't care at all about the Beneteau, and you
know nothing about racing.

Let me put it another way. Eleven hours into a motorcycle endurance race
our team was leading our class by close to half an hour, clicking off 1:37
lap times like clockwork and gaining a couple seconds on our closest rival
every lap. Soopy had just taken over when a much faster bike, in a far
different class, came out of the pits and passed him. Next lap soopy's time
was down to 1:35, hanging on the guys tail and enjoying a great dice. His
lap times steadily fell - 1:33, 1:30, 1:27 despite pit board warnings. Then
he limped in with a broken crank. We'd gone from first in class to DNF in
five laps. Soopy prolly still wonders why nobody'd team with him any more
.......

Boobie, for the third time maybe you could tell the group what the ARC
class is. That 35s5 you boasted about winning a race competed in a
class called ARC. There were multiple PHRF classes in the regatta why
did the 35s5 choose ARC? What is it?

"rgnmstr" wrote in message
ups.com...
Boobie, for the third time maybe you could tell the group what the ARC
class is. That 35s5 you boasted about winning a race competed in a
class called ARC. There were multiple PHRF classes in the regatta why
did the 35s5 choose ARC? What is it?

He probably won't, so why not elucidate.

Max

"Jeff" wrote in message
...
You really don't get this, do you? It isn't about not racing, though I'm
sure it happens in PHRF racing, but it wasn't common in the collegiate
racing I did, simply because it isn't fair to other teams teams that came
a long way to compete against a full fleet.

However, the strategy changes in the last race. A boat that is in last
place for a regatta is left to do whatever it wants, and thus has its best
shot at winning an individual race. Meanwhile, the silver is being won
elsewhere on the course by the real racers. This isn't a hypothetical
situation; it happens in almost every regatta.

Ask one of your racing friends, if they really exist. Maybe they'll
explain it to you real slow, using small words.

They'll have to draw some pictures, too, Jeff. Bubbles is simply clueless
about this.

Max

"Maxprop" wrote i
Ask one of your racing friends, if they really exist. Maybe
they'll
explain it to you real slow, using small words.

They'll have to draw some pictures, too, Jeff. Bubbles is
simply clueless
about this.

You guys are gonna look pretty foolish when Bob starts winning
all those races next year.

SBV