If you don't have access to yours, you should get
them from ussailing - its worth the money. I'll bet you'd even find
something in there to brag about.


I saw the polars for my boat and they were pretty impressive, with good
VMG into the mid 30's. As for the rest...I wouldn't buy a Catamaran
unless I was too old to sail a regular boat, period. I don't like the
looks or feel. And that's all that matters in the end. Giving me a long
list of advantages of a boat that's nearly as wide as it is long is
hardly impressive. It's expected. I can also list the advantages of
Doug's trawler. But it has little to do with what MOST people like
about sailing a boat. And when enthusiasts DO seek out a multi it's
generally one that flies a hull and heels, Jeff.
After all these months and years, you actualy think anyone here can
give me a taste of my own medicine? You have no idea that you've been
dragged through the mud by me again about a boat that I may or may not
have! In 10 days you'll know (again) how much fun I had making you
chase your tail. On the other hand, someone pointed out that these
silly threads are coming up on google and it's bad for the boats. Even
if you can't appreciate that, I certainly can. Enjoy the low road,
Jeff. You'll never find the exit ramp!

Robert B
35s5
NY

Capt. Rob wrote:
If you don't have access to yours, you should get
them from ussailing - its worth the money. I'll bet you'd even find
something in there to brag about.


I saw the polars for my boat and they were pretty impressive, with good
VMG into the mid 30's. As for the rest...I wouldn't buy a Catamaran
unless I was too old to sail a regular boat, period. I don't like the
looks or feel. And that's all that matters in the end. Giving me a long
list of advantages of a boat that's nearly as wide as it is long is
hardly impressive. It's expected. I can also list the advantages of
Doug's trawler. But it has little to do with what MOST people like
about sailing a boat.

Oh. So this about what MOST people like. I don't think you really
want to go there

And when enthusiasts DO seek out a multi it's
generally one that flies a hull and heels, Jeff.
After all these months and years, you actualy think anyone here can
give me a taste of my own medicine?

No, I don't expect this had any impression on you at all. But
consider: nobody believes a thing you say about anybody or any boat.
But they all seem to agree with what I say.

What is said in this forum is of little import. What's counts is that
at the end of the summer I've sailed 1000 miles up and down the coast,
and you've done a few daysails in sight of your slip.

You have no idea that you've been
dragged through the mud by me again about a boat that I may or may not
have!

Right Booby, you really got me when you claimed that sailing without
A/C would be horrific! And everyone here believes you really meant it!

In 10 days you'll know (again) how much fun I had making you
chase your tail.

What, the 35s5 in FL failed its survey? Gee, that wasn't predictable,
was it?

But it has little to do with what MOST people like
about sailing a boat.

h. So this about what MOST people like. I don't think you really
want to go there


Why not? It's at the core of why I don't like multihulls and why a lot
of others feel the same way. "Sailing" is a activity that certain
characteristics generally attributed to monohuls. People continue to
seek that out because it's what they like. A multi is just a different
animal and it can't be a subsitute for what many of us love about
sailing.

But they all seem to agree with what I say.

And this means what exactly. I could post water is wet and folks here
would disagree with me because it's me! That's the fun in all this. I
post just as much truth as fiction and get the same reaction. I also
get the laughs on both counts. Just because a frustrated choir is
singing along with you doesn't make me wrong!

What's counts is that
at the end of the summer I've sailed 1000 miles up and down the
coast,

I'm happy for you. But it "counts" for nothing to me because it doesn't
interest me. It "counts" for me that I ran 4 miles at 5:00 am. Does it
count for you? Surely you must get over yourself!

you really got me when you claimed that sailing without
A/C would be horrific!

Now, now. We both know that's not what I posted at all. I simply said
that SOME nights are horrific and later you AGREED saying you had some
OPRESSIVE nights as well. What's the penalty for being able to throw a
switch and not feel so uncomfortable? An extra 75 lbs of gear and
hoses? A few bucks? An air conditioner run on a schedule in a slip can
also help maintain the boat's interior. In any case, it's a moot point.
The 35s5 came with new AC.

What, the 35s5 in FL failed its survey? Gee, that wasn't
predictable,
was it?

I already posted the survey results. I would have lost a deposit if I
attempted to walk away. The very fact that you continue playing my
games proves how unpredictable I am. See if you can predict me next
thread! Look at them...I'm the source of sailing content here. It
doesn't matter that I do it with trolls, lies and nonsensical posts!
None of you are imune.


RB
35s5
NY

Capt. Rob wrote:

h. So this about what MOST people like. I don't think you really
want to go there


Why not? It's at the core of why I don't like multihulls and why a lot
of others feel the same way.

In other words, you don't like multihulls because other people don't
like them? Now we get it.

....

Just because a frustrated choir is
singing along with you doesn't make me wrong!

Nope. You do it all on your own. You're the one who seems concerned
about what most people think.



What's counts is that
at the end of the summer I've sailed 1000 miles up and down the
coast,

I'm happy for you. But it "counts" for nothing to me because it doesn't
interest me. It "counts" for me that I ran 4 miles at 5:00 am. Does it
count for you? Surely you must get over yourself!

A lot of boaters own boats to do the kind of sailing I do; others own
boats to race.

And then there are those keep them at their slips to impress their
friends, and only go out for a few hours when the weather is perfect.

Which type are you?



you really got me when you claimed that sailing without
A/C would be horrific!

Now, now. We both know that's not what I posted at all. I simply said
that SOME nights are horrific and later you AGREED saying you had some
OPRESSIVE nights as well.

You said "A boat without AC is horrific in August." You made no other
qualification. I said in 6 months of living aboard in Florida there a
a maybe few nights I might have appreciated A/C, but only because we
spent a lot of time there dockside.

The difference is the you bragged that having A/C makes it a superior
cruising boat. Having good ventilation is what makes a superior
cruising boat, the A/C is just gravy.

What's the penalty for being able to throw a
switch and not feel so uncomfortable? An extra 75 lbs of gear and
hoses? A few bucks? An air conditioner run on a schedule in a slip can
also help maintain the boat's interior. In any case, it's a moot point.
The 35s5 came with new AC.

because it needed it.


What, the 35s5 in FL failed its survey? Gee, that wasn't
predictable,
was it?

I already posted the survey results. I would have lost a deposit if I
attempted to walk away. The very fact that you continue playing my
games proves how unpredictable I am. See if you can predict me next
thread! Look at them...I'm the source of sailing content here. It
doesn't matter that I do it with trolls, lies and nonsensical posts!
None of you are imune.

Now you're the streaker - it doesn't matter how embarrassing it is for
you, as long as people look!

Now you're the streaker - it doesn't matter how embarrassing it is for
you, as long as people look!


Jeff, what people never understand about a streaker is that he commands
attention at his will and suffers no embarrassment. So you asumption
that he's somehow the loser is quite ass backwards!

The 35s5 came with new AC.
because it needed it.

A/C on 35s5's is pretty rare. Few people seem to think it needs it. But
what's wrong with free gravy?

You said "A boat without AC is horrific in August." You made no
other
qualification.

Another lie from Jeff. I said they CAN be horrific and quite honestly
we just had an August that saw poor winds and intense heat. Should
folks with A/C not use it because you'd rather be in opressive heat?

Which type are you?

I'm the type who sails 3 or even 4 days a week on average. On weekends
we will often take short trips, doesn't matter if it's Oyster Bay or
Norwalk or just shooting up to Manhattan for the afternoon. We don't
care about sailing distances as we just love to sail. We also do a lot
of night sails, which is very relaxing. On days when winds are
non-extistant we like to just work on the boat, cleaning and so on. We
take a lot of people sailing in addition to family. Some are quite
elderly and the slip is great for them. We sail so often that we've
been asked if we were running a daily charter several times. On the C&C
32 I started working on my sailing book (It's been picked up BTW), but
the heat on some days was rough. The A/C will be a relief for that as
well.


You do it all on your own. You're the one who seems concerned
about what most people think.

This statement makes the least sense of all. I usually ALWAYS oppose
the people here. I'm the ONLY person who makes NO ALIANCES. Even Neal
caters when he tires. I NEVER tire. Part of this is because I'm so
vastly superior on every level. Not only do I stomp the majority of
this group verbally, but I could disable any three of you hand to hand.
I also think most of you represent a sort of bitter resentment about
sailing. You want it to be your own, but it can't ever be so. Poor
fools, you attack how people sail, the boats they choose and even how
far they sail. Sailing has brought me so much...even my wife and son. I
love to share it with others. But fearing that your hobby is less
exclusive, you try to lash out again and again. We should all sail
great distances, or win races, or live aboard or sail in harsh weather,
you claim. Nonsense. We just sail when we please as we
please....because it pleases us.
The fact that this torments you endlessly along with trilobites like
Mooron, Loco and Doug is a constant source of amusement for me. Think
about it, Jeff. I'm always picking a fight with someone here, sometime
all of you low lifes at once, and I've never lost. I don't follow your
leads, beliefs or conventional ideas just to hear them echoed by the
next post.
I'm everything you and most of the others here can never be...A Man.
And Even Bob Crantz and Capt. Neal know this to be true.

I am the virus that keeps the blood of this group flowing strong and
pure, the essense of it's strength and health. You cannot beat me, cure
me or have me expelled from the group body. Every word that you type if
my fuel and your folly. Thus it has been, thus it shall remain.
Jeff, you're a pinhead Maximous Mostidioticus Multihulless....and
there's no changing that.


Capt. Robert B
35s5....home of the God of Alt.Sailing.Asa...(Don't say it Ozzy!)
NY