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Capt.Mooron November 12th 05 02:28 PM

Mooring or Dock
 
I believe a mooring is by far the better choice to have than a dockside
slip. No chafe and the bow is always pointed into the wind. The savings will
easily fund a proper tender and the privacy of a mooring is much preferred
to the dockside rubber-neckers.

CM



Capt. Rob November 12th 05 02:46 PM

Mooring or Dock
 
I believe a mooring is by far the better choice to have than a dockside

slip. No chafe and the bow is always pointed into the wind. The savings
will
easily fund a proper tender and the privacy of a mooring is much
preferred
to the dockside rubber-neckers.


Almost entirely depends on where the slips are. A slip means ultra easy
access to your boat and you're generally sailing faster. Most of our
local "accidents" are moored boats, dragged, hit or whatever. The slips
by us are very quiet even during a storm, no where near the action of a
moored boat in the same area. Slip also means your boat is easier to
keep clean, charged, load up and so on. You also have full time shore
power for tools, toys and air conditioning. It also makes it a lot
easier when you want to just "hang out" without dealing with a launch
or dinghy. In THIS area, a slip is nicer (and twice the cost). In some
areas a mooring may be prefered.

RB
35s5...happy for her slip!
NY


Bart Senior November 12th 05 05:29 PM

Mooring or Dock
 
As long as you have a way to generate some power.

"Capt.Mooron" wrote
I believe a mooring is by far the better choice to have than a dockside
slip. No chafe and the bow is always pointed into the wind. The savings
will easily fund a proper tender and the privacy of a mooring is much
preferred to the dockside rubber-neckers.

CM




Capt.Mooron November 12th 05 06:01 PM

Mooring or Dock
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message Almost entirely depends on
where the slips are. A slip means ultra easy
access to your boat and you're generally sailing faster. Most of our
local "accidents" are moored boats, dragged, hit or whatever. The slips
by us are very quiet even during a storm, no where near the action of a
moored boat in the same area. Slip also means your boat is easier to
keep clean, charged, load up and so on. You also have full time shore
power for tools, toys and air conditioning. It also makes it a lot
easier when you want to just "hang out" without dealing with a launch
or dinghy. In THIS area, a slip is nicer (and twice the cost). In some
areas a mooring may be prefered.


Since my vessel does not require shore power to provide comfortable living
accommodations... I can't see the sense in placing my vessel to a slip. My
boat does not need to be near a power source since it is properly outfitted
for long durations and living aboard under sail and at anchor.

My power tools are battery operated and I can recharge from shore or with
the inverter.

It's just nice knowing I don't require to be attached to a shore umbilical
cord to provide me with requirements to live comfortably on my boat. I know
my tender is in top shape at all times.... and the mooring presents the
least area to the prevailing wind which also protects the cockpit and
provides the best ventilation.

I have had a slip for a season or two... but I found no benefits to it at
all and many negatives. I just find it as easy to make for the dinghy dock,
jump in my inflatable tender and whip out to my moored vessel in seconds.
Once there I have left the shore and am subject to privacy and the comfort
of actual sea motion.

I have never suffered damage at a mooring. I cannot say the same for a slip.

Slips are for condoboat sailors.... unless of course you are in an area that
has no alternative to a dock.



Capt.Mooron November 12th 05 06:05 PM

Mooring or Dock
 
Any vessel not able to generate power for it's on board systems is a vessel
with a poorly thought out system.

Sailboats belong on a mooring.... Powerboats belong at the dock.

CM

"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ...
As long as you have a way to generate some power.

"Capt.Mooron" wrote
I believe a mooring is by far the better choice to have than a dockside
slip. No chafe and the bow is always pointed into the wind. The savings
will easily fund a proper tender and the privacy of a mooring is much
preferred to the dockside rubber-neckers.

CM






Capt. JG November 12th 05 07:00 PM

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All true, but it's not much fun rowing to shore and rowing back with
supplies when the weather is bad. Also, out here, your bow wouldn't always
be pointed into the wind, as the current overpowers the wind at times.

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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:h_mdf.195246$ir4.56188@edtnps90...
I believe a mooring is by far the better choice to have than a dockside
slip. No chafe and the bow is always pointed into the wind. The savings
will easily fund a proper tender and the privacy of a mooring is much
preferred to the dockside rubber-neckers.

CM




Capt. JG November 12th 05 07:01 PM

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Interesting... most of the accidents around here are people falling on the
dock trying to get on and off their boats! We also get a bunch of people who
can't control their boats when leaving or returning to their slips... end up
crunching something.

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
I believe a mooring is by far the better choice to have than a dockside

slip. No chafe and the bow is always pointed into the wind. The savings
will
easily fund a proper tender and the privacy of a mooring is much
preferred
to the dockside rubber-neckers.


Almost entirely depends on where the slips are. A slip means ultra easy
access to your boat and you're generally sailing faster. Most of our
local "accidents" are moored boats, dragged, hit or whatever. The slips
by us are very quiet even during a storm, no where near the action of a
moored boat in the same area. Slip also means your boat is easier to
keep clean, charged, load up and so on. You also have full time shore
power for tools, toys and air conditioning. It also makes it a lot
easier when you want to just "hang out" without dealing with a launch
or dinghy. In THIS area, a slip is nicer (and twice the cost). In some
areas a mooring may be prefered.

RB
35s5...happy for her slip!
NY




Dry November 12th 05 08:23 PM

Mooring or Dock
 
"Capt. JG" wrote:

All true, but it's not much fun rowing to shore and rowing back with
supplies when the weather is bad. Also, out here, your bow wouldn't always
be pointed into the wind, as the current overpowers the wind at times.

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www.sailnow.com

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:h_mdf.195246$ir4.56188@edtnps90...
I believe a mooring is by far the better choice to have than a dockside
slip. No chafe and the bow is always pointed into the wind. The savings
will easily fund a proper tender and the privacy of a mooring is much
preferred to the dockside rubber-neckers.

CM


Yoe Mooron you failed to mention the physical attributes of rowing your
Dory out to Overproof alas no work outs for you.

John Cairns November 12th 05 09:10 PM

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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:h_mdf.195246$ir4.56188@edtnps90...
I believe a mooring is by far the better choice to have than a dockside
slip. No chafe and the bow is always pointed into the wind. The savings
will easily fund a proper tender and the privacy of a mooring is much
preferred to the dockside rubber-neckers.

CM


You're fortunate to have a choice. DNR banned moorings in these parts about
35 odd years ago.

John Cairns



Capt. JG November 12th 05 09:10 PM

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Alas? Seems like a pretty good workout to me.

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"Dry" wrote in message
...
"Capt. JG" wrote:

All true, but it's not much fun rowing to shore and rowing back with
supplies when the weather is bad. Also, out here, your bow wouldn't
always
be pointed into the wind, as the current overpowers the wind at times.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:h_mdf.195246$ir4.56188@edtnps90...
I believe a mooring is by far the better choice to have than a dockside
slip. No chafe and the bow is always pointed into the wind. The savings
will easily fund a proper tender and the privacy of a mooring is much
preferred to the dockside rubber-neckers.

CM


Yoe Mooron you failed to mention the physical attributes of rowing your
Dory out to Overproof alas no work outs for you.




Capt. Rob November 12th 05 09:21 PM

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I've had moorings and I've had a slip. Again, it's entirely based on
the area to find a preferred method. Slips on City Island are simply
safer than moorings and a boat in a quiet slip takes less abuse and is
easier to maintain in a slip. The mooring offers no advantage at all
and just costs you more time. If we want extra privacy, we have
transient moorings just north of the slips. We also have a lot of
friends who come sailing. The slip is easier for that as well. A boat
in a slip also has it's batteries properly charged, and easier way to
prep the boat, make repairs and so on. After every sail we hose boat
and gear down with fresh water. Sure, you can bring your moored boat in
do all that, but it's an extra step. The best maintained boat we see
here are in slips. Again, this is widely dependent on the area and
exposure to a marine or mooring field.
Mooron's sweeping comments about moorings somehow being better proves
that he knows little about that.

RB
35s5...the best maintained boats here!
NY


Bart Senior November 12th 05 09:57 PM

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"Capt.Mooron" wrote

"Swabbie Robbie" wrote in message
or dinghy. In THIS area, a slip is nicer (and twice the cost).


Since my vessel does not require shore power to provide comfortable living
accommodations... I can't see the sense in placing my vessel to a slip. My
boat does not need to be near a power source since it is properly
outfitted for long durations and living aboard under sail and at anchor.


Swabbie doesn't know what he's talking about AGAIN.

Cost is the main reason to chose a mooring over a dock.
It is a more like four times the cost or more to take a slip
over a mooring.

MOORING COST--typically $100/yr, usually not more
than double that--every town has a different rate.

The ground tackle will set you back $1500, unless you buy
it used for $750. Plan on maintenance at the beginning and
end of each season. Ever other year it must be pulled and
inspected by someone hired by the town--cost about $75,
plus chain if it's old.

Some places rent moorings. The lowest price quoted was
$90 at the Navy Base in Newport, RI. That was a few years
ago. I might sail HOOT up there and put her on a mooring,
at least part of next year. $100 a month is a good rate of
return once it finishes paying for itself.

Figure $150/month for renting a mooring. Your costs are
far less in the long run if you install your own mooring.

Slips are expense. You'd be horrified at the price. I'd guess
ECHO at 46 feet would cost $6000 for the season, and $2300
for winter storage at one of the bigger commercial yards
nearby.

ECHO down at Liberty Landing would be around $8000
or more.

My yacht club charges $1018 for a 50 foot slip. So you
can see there is a 8:1 variation in slip fees. Clubs make
a huge difference is cost savings.

CM, what did you charge when you worked on moorings?



Bart Senior November 12th 05 09:59 PM

Mooring or Dock
 
How do you generate power? Do you have a solar
panel? Engine charging?

"Capt.Mooron" wrote.
Any vessel not able to generate power for it's on board systems is a
vessel with a poorly thought out system.
Sailboats belong on a mooring.... Powerboats belong at the dock.


"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ...
As long as you have a way to generate some power.


"Capt.Mooron" wrote
I believe a mooring is by far the better choice to have than a dockside
slip. No chafe and the bow is always pointed into the wind. The savings
will easily fund a proper tender and the privacy of a mooring is much
preferred to the dockside rubber-neckers.

CM




Capt. Rob November 12th 05 10:18 PM

Mooring or Dock
 
Cost is the main reason to chose a mooring over a dock.
It is a more like four times the cost or more to take a slip
over a mooring.


I don't pay for my slip or other yard fees. 135 per foot last time I
checked. WIth electric and other fees, about 6800.00 here. That's not
too expensive and I've never heard anyone claim it was...until now. Our
club also has wireless internet, phone hookup and so on.


RB
35s5
NY


Donal November 12th 05 11:33 PM

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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:h_mdf.195246$ir4.56188@edtnps90...
I believe a mooring is by far the better choice to have than a dockside
slip. No chafe and the bow is always pointed into the wind. The savings

will
easily fund a proper tender and the privacy of a mooring is much preferred
to the dockside rubber-neckers.


You may well be correct! However, I am always shocked by the meanness of
people who have moorings. They are always the last to order a round of
drinks.


Regards


Donal
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Capt.Mooron November 12th 05 11:55 PM

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"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message

CM, what did you charge when you worked on moorings?


Standard Moorons Rates were 3 flats of beer and a bottle of Lambs Navy Overproof Rum for placing a 1500lb mooring.... that was including materials and assembly for the base but not the chain, bolts or nuts/washers or float. At that price we would float it out and make certain it was placed properly.

Servicing a mooring was 1 flat of beer and a bottle of rum plus air for the tanks.

BTW - 20 Grader Blades with S/S ready-rod and 2" PVC spacers cut at 4" lengths. 3 point hook up with 3 separate chains to a swivel shackle and then the chain to the surface. Bullet Proof!

CM

Capt.Mooron November 13th 05 12:03 AM

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"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ...
How do you generate power? Do you have a solar
panel? Engine charging?


Engine, 3 battery banks and a solar array.... I'd like to have wind powered
generator... that will be a future project.

Basically I watch power consumption.... it's not a big deal. You'd be
surprised at how little power you require to live very comfortably.

BTW - 8 years on the aux and only 443 hrs.

CM



Capt.Mooron November 13th 05 12:06 AM

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"Dry" wrote in message Yoe Mooron you failed to
mention the physical attributes of rowing your
Dory out to Overproof alas no work outs for you.


I don't really consider rowing an 18 ft Dory as a work-out..... even with 6
people, food, booze and gear for a weekend sail. One trip with the Dory...
or six quick trips with an inflatable and kicker.

CM



Capt.Mooron November 13th 05 12:08 AM

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message

Alas? Seems like a pretty good workout to me.


Getting up from a chair would be a work-out for you... Ya Pussy!

CM



Capt.Mooron November 13th 05 12:08 AM

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"John Cairns" wrote in message
You're fortunate to have a choice. DNR banned moorings in these parts
about 35 odd years ago.


That Sucks!

CM



Capt. JG November 13th 05 12:12 AM

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Still a lot of anger I see... can't get past it can you. I'm sorry for you.
All you're capable of doing is calling people names. Pretty pathetic.

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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message

Alas? Seems like a pretty good workout to me.


Getting up from a chair would be a work-out for you... Ya Pussy!

CM





Capt.Mooron November 13th 05 12:17 AM

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
Mooron's sweeping comments about moorings somehow being better proves
that he knows little about that.


That speaks volumes about your lack of nautical experience Bob.... my
batteries are always charged. I don't need to "wash-down" after every sail
since my waters aren't polluted. The courtesy dock is for loading and
unloading. I take friends out all the time with no problem. You have an
extra step to dock, while I can sail to my mooring..... which I can also
sail from without requiring the aux. I have privacy and my vessel is much
safer at a mooring.

You don't have the option to moor..... you are not at all experienced with
the benefits of a mooring. If you were you would prefer one. You sail like a
power boater.... your posts illustrate that with blinding clarity. Your
statements regarding stereos and TVs, AC Ad Nauseum show you to be a power
boater at heart. Give it up and by a trawler... you are no sailor!

CM



Capt.Mooron November 13th 05 12:19 AM

Mooring or Dock
 

"Donal" wrote in message
You may well be correct! However, I am always shocked by the meanness of
people who have moorings. They are always the last to order a round of
drinks.


Maybe you should row out to their boats... they are quite generous with the
on-board supplies! :-)

CM



Capt. Rob November 13th 05 12:25 AM

Mooring or Dock
 
All true, but it's not much fun rowing to shore and rowing back with
supplies when the weather is bad. Also, out here, your bow wouldn't
always
be pointed into the wind, as the current overpowers the wind at times.



There are conditions when you simply can't row or wouldn't want to.
There are plenty of times when we sail with more than 6 people to. I
sure don't want to waste time rowing when I could be sailing. By the
time Mooron makes his second trip, we've already hoisted and are
enjoying cold drinks from the fridge that can be left running in the
slip. There are only two good reasons for a mooring:
1) You can't afford the slip.
2) You live in an area where slips are harder on boats..
Luckily, even when a norther comes through wave action is blocked
nicely by Hart Island and our breakwater. We can hang out below in
conditions that Mooron couldn't row in. We can also come back and not
get trapped aboard if T-storms happen to roll through at the end of a
sail.
In our slips....C&Cs, Tayana, Island Packet, Sweden, J-Boat, Bristol,
Beneteau, Pearson, Sabre. Out on the moorings....Hunters, Catalina,
Ranger, O'Day, Irwin. Mooron would be top dog at last.

RB
35s5
NY


Capt. Rob November 13th 05 12:26 AM

Mooring or Dock
 
You may well be correct! However, I am always shocked by the meanness
of
people who have moorings.



Nothing kills the fun of yachting like a mooring. Of course they're
mean.


RB
35s5
NY


Capt.Mooron November 13th 05 12:29 AM

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Still a lot of anger I see... can't get past it can you. I'm sorry for
you. All you're capable of doing is calling people names. Pretty pathetic.


What makes you think I'm angry???

I just think you're a fragile little pansy and told you as much.

I you think rowing a Dory is a work-out..... then I'd say you're a weakling
and a pussy!

CM




Capt. Rob November 13th 05 12:36 AM

Mooring or Dock
 
What makes you think I'm angry???
I just think you're a fragile little pansy and told you as much.


You always sound angry. In fact I actually think you're the most bitter
person here, perhaps more than Loco or Jeff. You should take a lesson
from Scotty. He's happy with a nice boat and hard working agenda. The
man has ethics and doesn't need to bare his teeth every 5 minutes. You
need help, Mooron, moored or in a slip.

RB
35s5
NY


Capt.Mooron November 13th 05 12:38 AM

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

There are conditions when you simply can't row or wouldn't want to.


Bwahahahahaa... name one that you would go sailing in Bob!!

There are plenty of times when we sail with more than 6 people to.


So? scoot out to the mooring, start the aux because you are such an out of
shape windbag you can't row 6 people out a hundred yards to a mooring...
and take the vessel into the dock to load up the lubbers.

I
sure don't want to waste time rowing when I could be sailing.


No you prefer to start the aux.. warm it up... back out of a SLIP.... motor
out to the bay and then finally raise sail?


By the
time Mooron makes his second trip, we've already hoisted and are
enjoying cold drinks from the fridge that can be left running in the
slip.


POWER BOATER!!!!

There are only two good reasons for a mooring:
1) You can't afford the slip.


Slips are cheap here.... $500 Cdn for a season with power and water.

2) You live in an area where slips are harder on boats..


That's everywhere Bob!

Luckily, even when a norther comes through wave action is blocked
nicely by Hart Island and our breakwater. We can hang out below in
conditions that Mooron couldn't row in. We can also come back and not
get trapped aboard if T-storms happen to roll through at the end of a
sail.


What??!! I can row effectively in a gale.... but then I'm in great phyiscal
shape.... my niece was sailing since she was 3 mths old and she's been on a
row boat many times.

In our slips....C&Cs, Tayana, Island Packet, Sweden, J-Boat, Bristol,
Beneteau, Pearson, Sabre. Out on the moorings....Hunters, Catalina,
Ranger, O'Day, Irwin. Mooron would be top dog at last.


I'm always Top Dog!

CM



Capt.Mooron November 13th 05 12:40 AM

Mooring or Dock
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message Nothing kills the fun of
yachting like a mooring. Of course they're
mean.


Bob's more concerned about the AC, Stereo, TV and luxuries of Condo Living
on a sailboat... that's why he has a slip with lots of power!

Bob is a Power Boater!!! Bwahahahahahaha

CM



Capt.Mooron November 13th 05 12:46 AM

Mooring or Dock
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

You always sound angry. In fact I actually think you're the most bitter
person here, perhaps more than Loco or Jeff. You should take a lesson
from Scotty. He's happy with a nice boat and hard working agenda. The
man has ethics and doesn't need to bare his teeth every 5 minutes. You
need help, Mooron, moored or in a slip.


Bob... what you derive from my posts is merely a refection of what's in
your heart. The truth hurts and you hate to hear it... but Bob... you're a
"Power Boater".

CM



Capt. Rob November 13th 05 12:48 AM

Mooring or Dock
 
Bob... what you derive from my posts is merely a refection of what's
in
your heart.


Devil Dog cream filling?
Easy there, Mooron or you'll spill your drink.


RB
35s5
NY


Capt.Mooron November 13th 05 12:50 AM

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

You should take a lesson
from Scotty.


Now ...that's just low!

Suckin' up to Scotty like that!

CM



Capt.Mooron November 13th 05 12:54 AM

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message


Easy there, Mooron or you'll spill your drink.


The secret Bob... is in fitting a 5lb ankle weight from my dive gear to the
base of the glass. Exercise & Enjoyment! :-)

CM



Capt. Rob November 13th 05 01:46 AM

Mooring or Dock
 
Now ...that's just low!

Suckin' up to Scotty like that!


Just pointing out what's plainly obvious. No need to scream and yell at
me for it. Calm down before you pop a vein and spray vodka all over the
sofa.


RB
35s5
NY


Capt. JG November 13th 05 01:50 AM

Mooring or Dock
 
It's pretty obvious, since all you have to say is laced with angry comments
and language. You can't get past it. You absolutely must try to put me down.
I think it's pathological.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Still a lot of anger I see... can't get past it can you. I'm sorry for
you. All you're capable of doing is calling people names. Pretty
pathetic.


What makes you think I'm angry???

I just think you're a fragile little pansy and told you as much.

I you think rowing a Dory is a work-out..... then I'd say you're a
weakling and a pussy!

CM






Capt.Mooron November 13th 05 02:57 AM

Mooring or Dock
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message Just pointing out what's
plainly obvious. No need to scream and yell at
me for it. Calm down before you pop a vein and spray vodka all over the
sofa.

VODKA? VODKA?.... To Hell wid Dat! RUM!!!!!

CM



Capt.Mooron November 13th 05 03:22 AM

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message

It's pretty obvious, since all you have to say is laced with angry
comments and language. You can't get past it. You absolutely must try to
put me down. I think it's pathological.


Ganzy... give it up will ya... it's the same friggin' response from you
every time you get a dose of the truth. Everyone knows you're a pasty faced
little dickweed who considers a balanced meal as a dick in each hand.

I don't like you because you're a repulsive, back stabbing litlle weasel.
You're at the same level as BB and you are a pathetic piece of crap. In
other words... I don't like you!

So Ganzy... quit tryin' to chum up and be my buddy.... I think you're one of
the worst dorks on this group.

Now understand I'm not saying this in a hateful manner.... I don't hate you
at all... I loath you. You are a despicable two faced little ****** that
sucks up whenever you feel threatened. You are a spineless little turd and
I really don't give a tinker's damn what you think on any subject.

Bwahahahahahahahaaa.... Oh that was so much Fun!!

CM




Capt. Rob November 13th 05 03:30 AM

Mooring or Dock
 
Now understand I'm not saying this in a hateful manner.... I don't hate
you
at all... I loath you.


Hey, you're being unfaitful to me! Can I get in on this? I can be a
back stabbing weasle too!


RB
35s5....Faster than fast!
NY


Capt. JG November 13th 05 04:26 AM

Mooring or Dock
 
Actually, it's your response. And, you can't help yourself. You continue to
use name calling to vent your anger, which, it seems to me, is pathological.

Over and over... you can't stop. Prove me wrong.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message

It's pretty obvious, since all you have to say is laced with angry
comments and language. You can't get past it. You absolutely must try to
put me down. I think it's pathological.


Ganzy... give it up will ya... it's the same friggin' response from you
every time you get a dose of the truth. Everyone knows you're a pasty
faced little dickweed who considers a balanced meal as a dick in each
hand.

I don't like you because you're a repulsive, back stabbing litlle weasel.
You're at the same level as BB and you are a pathetic piece of crap. In
other words... I don't like you!

So Ganzy... quit tryin' to chum up and be my buddy.... I think you're one
of the worst dorks on this group.

Now understand I'm not saying this in a hateful manner.... I don't hate
you at all... I loath you. You are a despicable two faced little ******
that sucks up whenever you feel threatened. You are a spineless little
turd and I really don't give a tinker's damn what you think on any
subject.

Bwahahahahahahahaaa.... Oh that was so much Fun!!

CM






Capt. Neal® November 13th 05 04:27 AM

Mooring or Dock
 

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message news:h_mdf.195246$ir4.56188@edtnps90...
|I believe a mooring is by far the better choice to have than a dockside
| slip. No chafe and the bow is always pointed into the wind. The savings will
| easily fund a proper tender and the privacy of a mooring is much preferred
| to the dockside rubber-neckers.
|
| CM
|
|

Having one's boat on a mooring is the smart thing to do. And, the
following list proves it.

1) Roaches, ants, flies, termites and all manner of other bugs is the
bane of boats tied in slips. Even rats and mice. Yuck!

2) There's always a lot of stray electricity around docks and this
causes all sorts of nasty galvanic action on metal fittings below
the water line.

3) Instead of just uncleating one or two mooring lines when getting
underway, at a slip one must untie or uncleat six dock lines, an
electrical umbilical, etc. It takes much longer to get under way
and is often so much hassle that people don't even leave the dock.
And, what's with those ugly fenders hanging on the sides of vessels
coming out of a dock?

4) Nosey neighbors and rude passersby are always around the docks
but not around moorings. Thieves regularly case docked boats.

5) Oily water around docks that fouls the boot stripe and topsides.

6) It's acceptable to have naked or topless women sunning on deck
on a mooring while it'll probably get you arrested at a dock.
You can smoke pot on a mooring and few, if anyone will know.

7) Dogs and cats ****ing on your boat to mark their territory at the
docks. Never happens on a mooring.

8) You don't have to buy insurance to stay on a mooring while you
must have insurance in many marinas.

9) One can sail off a mooring while it's difficult or against marina rules
to sail out of a slip.

10) A dinghy that's used on a daily basis to and from a mooring will
remain in good running order while one lying neglected at a dock
usually is very unreliable. (not to mention easy for somebody to
damage or steal.)

11) Anything not bolted down will likely eventually be stolen from a
slipped vessel. Moored vessels don't seem to attract petty thieves.
(it's too easy for them to get shot)

12) Definitely more 'real sailors' in a mooring field. The get-together's
are much, much better. People talk about sailing and not lubberly
shoreside crap. Women lose their inhibitions and can't seem to
keep their clothes on. . .

13) Few things are better than to see your own vessel on her mooring
from the dinghy or from the cockpit of a friend's vessel while
swilling cold beers or rum drinks and eating grilled meat from
the Force 10 Barbeque and the smoke always blows aft.

14) One can "kite fly" a spinnaker from a mooring but not from a dock.

15) If your mooring is in an area with little or no current there is
always a breeze blowing down the hatches and through the
accommodation which is very pleasant. Rain showers don't blow
into the companionway which can usually be left open because
the rain also moves aft.

16) Photovoltaic arrays work well on a mooring due to lack of shadows
and are more environmentally friendly than plugging into the grid.

17) You can belch and fart as loudly as you wish on a mooring without
fear of embarrassment. You can lounge around naked and **** over
the side without offending the neighbors.

18) The air is cleaner and fresher on a mooring.

19) The water is cleaner and fresher on a mooring.

20) It's much noisier at the docks. Some fool is always polishing
sanding or grinding and cranking up his stereo to rotten music.

21) The night sky is easier to see from a mooring. Too much light
pollution at the docks blots out the night sky.

22) Too many boats at the docks with slapping halyards that drive
you nuts.

23) No real privacy at the docks. Filthy bathrooms and showers.
The water tastes like a plastic hose.

23) 200 to 500 bucks a month for rent- only a fool wastes that kind
of money considering all the negatives listed above.

24) Imagine the horror of discovering Bobsprit has the slip next
to yours.

25) Even worse, imagine Scotty having the slip on the other side
of you. Or Ole Thom. Being surrounded by such ugly boats
that never go anywhere would quickly lead me to thoughts
of suicide.


CN






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