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Capt. Rob November 12th 05 09:21 PM

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I've had moorings and I've had a slip. Again, it's entirely based on
the area to find a preferred method. Slips on City Island are simply
safer than moorings and a boat in a quiet slip takes less abuse and is
easier to maintain in a slip. The mooring offers no advantage at all
and just costs you more time. If we want extra privacy, we have
transient moorings just north of the slips. We also have a lot of
friends who come sailing. The slip is easier for that as well. A boat
in a slip also has it's batteries properly charged, and easier way to
prep the boat, make repairs and so on. After every sail we hose boat
and gear down with fresh water. Sure, you can bring your moored boat in
do all that, but it's an extra step. The best maintained boat we see
here are in slips. Again, this is widely dependent on the area and
exposure to a marine or mooring field.
Mooron's sweeping comments about moorings somehow being better proves
that he knows little about that.

RB
35s5...the best maintained boats here!
NY


Bart Senior November 12th 05 09:57 PM

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"Capt.Mooron" wrote

"Swabbie Robbie" wrote in message
or dinghy. In THIS area, a slip is nicer (and twice the cost).


Since my vessel does not require shore power to provide comfortable living
accommodations... I can't see the sense in placing my vessel to a slip. My
boat does not need to be near a power source since it is properly
outfitted for long durations and living aboard under sail and at anchor.


Swabbie doesn't know what he's talking about AGAIN.

Cost is the main reason to chose a mooring over a dock.
It is a more like four times the cost or more to take a slip
over a mooring.

MOORING COST--typically $100/yr, usually not more
than double that--every town has a different rate.

The ground tackle will set you back $1500, unless you buy
it used for $750. Plan on maintenance at the beginning and
end of each season. Ever other year it must be pulled and
inspected by someone hired by the town--cost about $75,
plus chain if it's old.

Some places rent moorings. The lowest price quoted was
$90 at the Navy Base in Newport, RI. That was a few years
ago. I might sail HOOT up there and put her on a mooring,
at least part of next year. $100 a month is a good rate of
return once it finishes paying for itself.

Figure $150/month for renting a mooring. Your costs are
far less in the long run if you install your own mooring.

Slips are expense. You'd be horrified at the price. I'd guess
ECHO at 46 feet would cost $6000 for the season, and $2300
for winter storage at one of the bigger commercial yards
nearby.

ECHO down at Liberty Landing would be around $8000
or more.

My yacht club charges $1018 for a 50 foot slip. So you
can see there is a 8:1 variation in slip fees. Clubs make
a huge difference is cost savings.

CM, what did you charge when you worked on moorings?



Bart Senior November 12th 05 09:59 PM

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How do you generate power? Do you have a solar
panel? Engine charging?

"Capt.Mooron" wrote.
Any vessel not able to generate power for it's on board systems is a
vessel with a poorly thought out system.
Sailboats belong on a mooring.... Powerboats belong at the dock.


"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ...
As long as you have a way to generate some power.


"Capt.Mooron" wrote
I believe a mooring is by far the better choice to have than a dockside
slip. No chafe and the bow is always pointed into the wind. The savings
will easily fund a proper tender and the privacy of a mooring is much
preferred to the dockside rubber-neckers.

CM




Capt. Rob November 12th 05 10:18 PM

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Cost is the main reason to chose a mooring over a dock.
It is a more like four times the cost or more to take a slip
over a mooring.


I don't pay for my slip or other yard fees. 135 per foot last time I
checked. WIth electric and other fees, about 6800.00 here. That's not
too expensive and I've never heard anyone claim it was...until now. Our
club also has wireless internet, phone hookup and so on.


RB
35s5
NY


Donal November 12th 05 11:33 PM

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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
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I believe a mooring is by far the better choice to have than a dockside
slip. No chafe and the bow is always pointed into the wind. The savings

will
easily fund a proper tender and the privacy of a mooring is much preferred
to the dockside rubber-neckers.


You may well be correct! However, I am always shocked by the meanness of
people who have moorings. They are always the last to order a round of
drinks.


Regards


Donal
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Capt.Mooron November 12th 05 11:55 PM

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"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message

CM, what did you charge when you worked on moorings?


Standard Moorons Rates were 3 flats of beer and a bottle of Lambs Navy Overproof Rum for placing a 1500lb mooring.... that was including materials and assembly for the base but not the chain, bolts or nuts/washers or float. At that price we would float it out and make certain it was placed properly.

Servicing a mooring was 1 flat of beer and a bottle of rum plus air for the tanks.

BTW - 20 Grader Blades with S/S ready-rod and 2" PVC spacers cut at 4" lengths. 3 point hook up with 3 separate chains to a swivel shackle and then the chain to the surface. Bullet Proof!

CM

Capt.Mooron November 13th 05 12:03 AM

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"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ...
How do you generate power? Do you have a solar
panel? Engine charging?


Engine, 3 battery banks and a solar array.... I'd like to have wind powered
generator... that will be a future project.

Basically I watch power consumption.... it's not a big deal. You'd be
surprised at how little power you require to live very comfortably.

BTW - 8 years on the aux and only 443 hrs.

CM



Capt.Mooron November 13th 05 12:06 AM

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"Dry" wrote in message Yoe Mooron you failed to
mention the physical attributes of rowing your
Dory out to Overproof alas no work outs for you.


I don't really consider rowing an 18 ft Dory as a work-out..... even with 6
people, food, booze and gear for a weekend sail. One trip with the Dory...
or six quick trips with an inflatable and kicker.

CM



Capt.Mooron November 13th 05 12:08 AM

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message

Alas? Seems like a pretty good workout to me.


Getting up from a chair would be a work-out for you... Ya Pussy!

CM



Capt.Mooron November 13th 05 12:08 AM

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"John Cairns" wrote in message
You're fortunate to have a choice. DNR banned moorings in these parts
about 35 odd years ago.


That Sucks!

CM




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