Yup... straight line sailing is faster.. turn = slowing.


OzOne wrote:
Yup, it's faster, but letting the boat roll up in the gusts and
shooting just a tad gains a whole lot of ground to windward.
Straight line an Etchells and you'll get murdered!


The way I think of it, in windward sailing you are either gaining speed
or gaining height. THe ideal would be to go fast & high, but usually as
you put the boat closer & closer to the wind, it loses drive and begins
to slow. The key is to do it gently and to know how to flatten &
super-trim the sails so as to produce a long "hang" time. Then you also
have to know the point at which the boat's underwater foils lose enough
effectiveness that you're making more leeway than gaining ground to
windward.

Also, anticipate waves & lulls so as not to get caught high & slow.

If you're going to get into a pinching contest, go into it with speed!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

The way I think of it, in windward sailing you are either gaining speed

or gaining height.


I've never seen such obvious stuff posted. It's almost amazing that
Trawler boy is posting this as if Loco doesn't know it already, let
alone Ozzy. Hey, Trawler boy, when you feather a heavy disp. full keel
cruiser what is the momentum factor vs. wetted surface.
Gee, lemmee think! Uh DUH!

Could you people actually post ANYTHING not available in ANY child's
sailing book?

RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

I've never seen such obvious stuff posted.

Pay Attention Rob... you'll learn somthing!

It's almost amazing that
Trawler boy is posting this as if Loco doesn't know it already, let
alone Ozzy. Hey, Trawler boy, when you feather a heavy disp. full keel
cruiser what is the momentum factor vs. wetted surface.
Gee, lemmee think! Uh DUH!

You don't "feather" a heavy or moderate displacement cruiser Bob. Pinching
does little... it's better to foot off and gain power. Momentum prevents
stalling between puffs in very light air and in those conditions at 2.5 kts
intial speed... I can coast for couple of hundred yards easy.


Could you people actually post ANYTHING not available in ANY child's
sailing book?

It's for your benefit... Pay Attention! It should come in handy for your
new definitive book on sailing you claim to be writing. What's the title
going to be... here are a few suggestions.

"Watch Bob Sail... V-r-r-o-o-o-m"

"Engine Hour Meters... Placement and Adjustment"

"Chrome Anchors... when your boat needs to Shine"

"The Backyard Surveyor's Boat Bible"

"The Etiquette of Modern Dockside Living"

"Boats... How to present a Sow's Ear as a Silk Purse"

CM

Gee, lemmee think! Uh DUH!


You don't "feather" a heavy or moderate displacement cruiser Bob.


Wow. Talk about the sarcasm going over Mooron's head! Way to go,
Mooron. You're right on target! Can't wait for the next lesson. Oh, and
ANY sailboat can be feathered in certain conditions. We've already been
down this road and I posted links to prove it. Look up "Feather" in a
sailing book from Barney Goes Sailing!

RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

Wow. Talk about the sarcasm going over Mooron's head! Way to go,
Mooron. You're right on target! Can't wait for the next lesson. Oh, and
ANY sailboat can be feathered in certain conditions. We've already been
down this road and I posted links to prove it. Look up "Feather" in a
sailing book from Barney Goes Sailing!

Don't wet your pampers Bob.... I didn't make it to the bait store this
morning.

I never said a full keeler can't be feathered Bob... you are suffering
selective interpretation. I said it's not done since there is little
advantage in it.

I'll wait for your definitive book on sailing where you will suggest to
engage the auxiliary to "feather"...

Bob's new book title?... " AC, why you shouldn't sail in hot weather"

CM

You don't "feather" a heavy or moderate displacement cruiser Bob.


Above is what Mooron said...but he never said it...or didn't mean
it...or...something about Pampers....
He sure knows boats!


RB
35s5
NY

Capt. Rob wrote:
The way I think of it, in windward sailing you are either gaining speed

or gaining height.


I've never seen such obvious stuff posted. It's almost amazing that
Trawler boy is posting this as if Loco doesn't know it already, let
alone Ozzy. Hey, Trawler boy, when you feather a heavy disp. full keel
cruiser what is the momentum factor vs. wetted surface.
Gee, lemmee think! Uh DUH!

Could you people actually post ANYTHING not available in ANY child's
sailing book?

RB
35s5
NY

Nice!

Yeah Gary.... it's typical Bobspeak when a subject matter goes over his
head... like anything about actual sailing.

CM

"Gary" wrote in message
news:yZ1ef.502291$1i.232648@pd7tw2no...
Capt. Rob wrote:
The way I think of it, in windward sailing you are either gaining speed

or gaining height.


I've never seen such obvious stuff posted. It's almost amazing that
Trawler boy is posting this as if Loco doesn't know it already, let
alone Ozzy. Hey, Trawler boy, when you feather a heavy disp. full keel
cruiser what is the momentum factor vs. wetted surface.
Gee, lemmee think! Uh DUH!

Could you people actually post ANYTHING not available in ANY child's
sailing book?

RB
35s5
NY

Nice!

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
The way I think of it, in windward sailing you are either gaining speed

or gaining height.


I've never seen such obvious stuff posted.

This is like saying to someone who just sold his boat, "Hey, if I'd know you
were selling it, I'd have bought it."

Max

When I'm teaching, I've noticed that students, especially those relatively
new to sailing, get very focused on the boat alone, rather than what's
around them... typically ignoring the small waves, lulls and puffs. I try to
get them to look away from what's happening on the boat and toward the
environment they're in. I think that helps, because then I can give them
help during tacks.. e.g., not tacking between chop but rather at the top if
possible.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Yup... straight line sailing is faster.. turn = slowing.


OzOne wrote:
Yup, it's faster, but letting the boat roll up in the gusts and
shooting just a tad gains a whole lot of ground to windward.
Straight line an Etchells and you'll get murdered!


The way I think of it, in windward sailing you are either gaining speed or
gaining height. THe ideal would be to go fast & high, but usually as you
put the boat closer & closer to the wind, it loses drive and begins to
slow. The key is to do it gently and to know how to flatten & super-trim
the sails so as to produce a long "hang" time. Then you also have to know
the point at which the boat's underwater foils lose enough effectiveness
that you're making more leeway than gaining ground to windward.

Also, anticipate waves & lulls so as not to get caught high & slow.

If you're going to get into a pinching contest, go into it with speed!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King