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Jeff November 10th 05 03:45 AM

The PDQ we Sailed
 
Capt. Rob wrote:
There's nothing like sailing along with rooster tails behind the
hulls, screaming along at 14kts, without losing your drinks at every
piece of chop.



Well, there you go....I don't drink. And a 35s5 will surf at 14 knots
and scare the crap out of you in the process.



Well that's a good reason for you to buy one. I prefer doing 12-14
knots in full control. And not for 2 seconds, but for a whole
afternoon.

Capt. Rob November 10th 05 10:25 AM

The PDQ we Sailed
 
What does scaring the crap out of someone have to do with cruising?
When I cruise, I don't want that. Like I said, for a couple of hours,
a mono is fine.


Jonathan, I don't see what's so hard to understand. Most of our sailing
will be daysailing, weekends and so on...on the LIS where winds are
often very light. Around here on too many days a PDQ here is a
powerboat, not a cruiser.
We bought a boat based on our needs and location, not Jeff's. When we
go for a sail it's often for a few hours in 10 knots of wind. What the
heck would a PDQ be on those days? I already know.
I just don't like cats. I don't even like the way they look.

RB
35s5
NY


Jonathan Ganz November 10th 05 07:02 PM

The PDQ we Sailed
 
In article . com,
Capt. Rob wrote:
What does scaring the crap out of someone have to do with cruising?
When I cruise, I don't want that. Like I said, for a couple of hours,
a mono is fine.


Jonathan, I don't see what's so hard to understand. Most of our sailing
will be daysailing, weekends and so on...on the LIS where winds are
often very light. Around here on too many days a PDQ here is a
powerboat, not a cruiser.
We bought a boat based on our needs and location, not Jeff's. When we
go for a sail it's often for a few hours in 10 knots of wind. What the
heck would a PDQ be on those days? I already know.
I just don't like cats. I don't even like the way they look.


Nothing. I get it completely. Most of my sailing is daysailing,
weekends also. However, the conditions out here dictate smaller
sail configurations. I still find it hard to believe that a
Cat would perform less well than a mono in light winds... perhaps
tacking, but it depends on the boat and the skill of the skipper/crew.

Many people don't like how cats sail or how they look. For cruising
beyond a day sail, they are pretty nice IMHO. Even the PDQ 32 I used
to sail would have been great for an overnighter.

When I was in Belize last, the wind speed was typically below 15 kts,
and we were on a 43' cat. No problems at all.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



Capt. Rob November 10th 05 07:42 PM

The PDQ we Sailed
 
Nothing. I get it completely. Most of my sailing is daysailing,
weekends also. However, the conditions out here dictate smaller
sail configurations. I still find it hard to believe that a
Cat would perform less well than a mono in light winds...


Even Jeff admits the 35s5 would be better in lighter air and I get the
feeling he motors more than he'll admit. And that's fine. My experience
on the PDQ 36 was "okay" but I wasn't impressed by the sailing
qualities, and her owner sold her after two seasons because the boat
was, in his words, "for the older set." Not all multi's are the same of
course.
We're really comparing apples and oranges here. Folks who love classic
monohulls are never going to warm up to a multi's looks or non-heeling
nature.

RB
35s5
NY


Jonathan Ganz November 10th 05 08:48 PM

The PDQ we Sailed
 
In article . com,
Capt. Rob wrote:
Nothing. I get it completely. Most of my sailing is daysailing,
weekends also. However, the conditions out here dictate smaller
sail configurations. I still find it hard to believe that a
Cat would perform less well than a mono in light winds...


Even Jeff admits the 35s5 would be better in lighter air and I get the
feeling he motors more than he'll admit. And that's fine. My experience
on the PDQ 36 was "okay" but I wasn't impressed by the sailing
qualities, and her owner sold her after two seasons because the boat
was, in his words, "for the older set." Not all multi's are the same of
course.
We're really comparing apples and oranges here. Folks who love classic
monohulls are never going to warm up to a multi's looks or non-heeling
nature.


Well, I love classic monos, but I also like multis. Both have
strengths and weaknesses.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



Capt. Rob November 10th 05 09:05 PM

The PDQ we Sailed
 
Well, I love classic monos, but I also like multis. Both have
strengths and weaknesses.


Agreed...at last!


RB
35s5.
NY


Jeff November 10th 05 11:00 PM

The PDQ we Sailed
 
Capt. Rob wrote:



We're really comparing apples and oranges here. Folks who love classic
monohulls are never going to warm up to a multi's looks or non-heeling
nature.


Folks who really love classic monohulls wouldn't buy a bendy.
Remember, my first larger boat was an Alberg style, my next was a
Nonsuch catboat. I don't see a need for a larger sailboat, so my next
will probably be a true classic, like a Marshall or Alerion.

http://www.marshallcat.com/M22Lines.htm
http://www.proper-yachts.com/alerion26reviews.htm

However, for now, a family vacation cruiser it the best boat. When I
want to heel, I can sail one of my dinghies.

BTW, who do you think championed multis in the US over 100 years ago?


Capt. Rob November 10th 05 11:04 PM

The PDQ we Sailed
 
monohulls are never going to warm up to a multi's looks or non-heeling
nature.


Folks who really love classic monohulls wouldn't buy a bendy.


Way to go, Jeff. Beneteau is the world's top sailboat builder, making
cruisers, racers and custom yachts. But all of those folks don't like
classic monohull boats!
You heard it here first!

RB
35s5....a classic monohull
NY


Capt. Rob November 10th 05 11:08 PM

The PDQ we Sailed
 
However, for now, a family vacation cruiser it the best boat. When I
want to heel, I can sail one of my dinghies.


Yeah, sailing a dinghy is JUST like sailing a keelboat, Jeff!!!
Do you notice you've been abandoned in this thread? You've said so many
dumb things even Loco is keeping quiet. Then again Loco owns a fast
monohull (that can't be cruised!) that's an even worse choice than my
boat according to your criteria! Same goes for ALL of the monohulls
here!
Oh, Jeff...in your failed attempts to attack me...you've managed to hit
everyone else with your stray idiot bullets!

RB
35s5...The winner!
NY


Capt. Rob November 10th 05 11:17 PM

The PDQ we Sailed
 
Well that's a good reason for you to buy one. I prefer doing 12-14
knots in full control.


And the monohull isn't? Oh. I hope everyone is learning from Jeff.
Monohulls sailing fast and surfing are not in full control. In fact
they require careful attention and skill to sail at those speeds, while
the cat does not.
Golly, Jeff...can you make even one good point for the multi has a fast
and fun boat to sail? BTW, we did almost 10 knots in the PDQ and with
ease. Only problem was...we barely noticed. Maybe that's a good thing
for some folks, but we like the sensations of sailing. The PDQ was like
driving a Nissan Titan...big, powerful, easy to drive...and utterly and
completely boring. Nothing you can say or claim will reverse this
simple fact. The very FACT that you admit to sailing a dinghy to
acquire that fun-factor PROVES that your boat does not have it!
BTW, you have to be the slowest, most dim debater. You have failed to
make a single point without shooting yourself down. It's been truly
amazing. And now your in my web, stuck making post after post. You know
this is my game, and yet here you are, taking one kick in the rubber
parts after the next!

RB
35s5...about 300 times more fun to sail than a PDQ 36!
NY



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