The PDQ we Sailed
 

Our friend had a PDQ 36 from the mid 90's. We sailed it twice, once
near Niantic and another time when he brought it down to us. In choppy
conditions it was not a pleasant ride and it was NOISY! As far as the
odd motion, Anthony, who owned the boat certainly didn't like it and
has since sold it and bought Shannon 43 which he's currently restoring
(Beautiful boat). In his defense, he's a retired cop who bought the
thing at an auction and cheap. He took a chance and it really paid off
when he sold it...so all's well. The PDQ actually went up in value in
the two years he had it.
I believe Jeff has a bigger PDQ...not sure and maybe the 36 is too
small, but we didn't like it. It just didn't feel like sailing and
wasn't interesting after 10 minutes. I hated the helm, which felt dead
most of the time. I sailed visually rather than by feel on most tacks.
Suzanne could see the alure for someone who's older. Anthony at 55 sure
didn't like it and sold it after 2 seasons..at a good profit. He agrees
it's just not sailing in any satisfying sense when your on a cat of
that type. They are floating condos and I could care less if you
daysail it or take it around the world. It's still not a boat for
sailors, which is why I don't know a single sailing enthusiast who
wants one. The same mentality behind a PDQ or big Prout is behind
buyers of those big Hunters. They want a stable, ultra roomy
motel/platform that won't heel...and "add some sails if you can,
please."
As for seasickness...I wasn't, but I didn't like the motion. In defense
of the Cat, Suzanne was pregnant at the time. But she never got ill on
the C&C, J24s and all the other monohulls we played with that summer.
I guess Jeff will now say he has the PDQ Deluxe 42 or something and
that it's somehow different. Ok...you can keep that wide load...we aint
interested. The feel of sailing a monohul is what it's all about. If
you don't get that, well, that's just fine.

Capt. Robert B
35s5...a boat that sails the way a sailboat should!
NY

The PDQ we Sailed
 

How dare you talk about sailing?

CN


"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com...
| Our friend had a PDQ 36 from the mid 90's. We sailed it twice, once
| near Niantic and another time when he brought it down to us. In choppy
| conditions it was not a pleasant ride and it was NOISY! As far as the
| odd motion, Anthony, who owned the boat certainly didn't like it and
| has since sold it and bought Shannon 43 which he's currently restoring
| (Beautiful boat). In his defense, he's a retired cop who bought the
| thing at an auction and cheap. He took a chance and it really paid off
| when he sold it...so all's well. The PDQ actually went up in value in
| the two years he had it.
| I believe Jeff has a bigger PDQ...not sure and maybe the 36 is too
| small, but we didn't like it. It just didn't feel like sailing and
| wasn't interesting after 10 minutes. I hated the helm, which felt dead
| most of the time. I sailed visually rather than by feel on most tacks.
| Suzanne could see the alure for someone who's older. Anthony at 55 sure
| didn't like it and sold it after 2 seasons..at a good profit. He agrees
| it's just not sailing in any satisfying sense when your on a cat of
| that type. They are floating condos and I could care less if you
| daysail it or take it around the world. It's still not a boat for
| sailors, which is why I don't know a single sailing enthusiast who
| wants one. The same mentality behind a PDQ or big Prout is behind
| buyers of those big Hunters. They want a stable, ultra roomy
| motel/platform that won't heel...and "add some sails if you can,
| please."
| As for seasickness...I wasn't, but I didn't like the motion. In defense
| of the Cat, Suzanne was pregnant at the time. But she never got ill on
| the C&C, J24s and all the other monohulls we played with that summer.
| I guess Jeff will now say he has the PDQ Deluxe 42 or something and
| that it's somehow different. Ok...you can keep that wide load...we aint
| interested. The feel of sailing a monohul is what it's all about. If
| you don't get that, well, that's just fine.
|
| Capt. Robert B
| 35s5...a boat that sails the way a sailboat should!
| NY
|

The PDQ we Sailed
 

How dare you talk about sailing?


Yeah, well...my impressions of sailing the PDQ are clearly typical when
you read about other reactions to these boats. They have their place, I
suppose, but then so does a houseboat. You simply can't compare
something like a PDQ 36 to a fun and fast monohull. One is aimed at
sailors and cat is more for the powerboat/Windebago crowd who still
wants a link to sailing...not that there's anything wrong with that.
It's just not "sailing" the way enthusiasts like it. Jeff can moan and
groan about this, just as Doug tries to convince himself of the "good
sense" behind his powerboat. Okay...but it aint sailing.
Trawlers and Cats make sense for the aging sailor....but just how old
are Jeff and Doug? Thom still sails a monohull and the fellow who sold
me the 35s5 is a very active Tartan 10 racer at 73 years old.


Robert B
35s5...a SAIL boat
NY

The PDQ we Sailed
 

Capt. Rob wrote:
... You simply can't compare
something like a PDQ 36 to a fun and fast monohull.

You can if you know something about sailing.

DSK

The PDQ we Sailed
 

Sorry, this is lovely fiction but I'm not buying it one bit. You've
never been on a cat other than (maybe) at a boat show.

But even taking it on face value - you sailed with someone who bought
an early version that was abandoned (I've never heard of such a case),
didn't know how to sail it, and sold it after two seasons. The only
part that rings true is that it increased in value.

BTW, I have the 36. The 42 wasn't out until 2001. I might have got
one of the early 42's when they were offered at $350K, now they go for
$650K! However, a 22 foot beam is a bit much to stash around here.

I've never claimed Bob should get a cat - there for people who like to
cruise to distant places. Someone who thinks cruising is going 3
miles to get "deep into the Sound" and thinks not having A/C would be
"horrific" is better served by a Bendy Toy.



Capt. Rob wrote:
Our friend had a PDQ 36 from the mid 90's. We sailed it twice, once
near Niantic and another time when he brought it down to us. In choppy
conditions it was not a pleasant ride and it was NOISY! As far as the
odd motion, Anthony, who owned the boat certainly didn't like it and
has since sold it and bought Shannon 43 which he's currently restoring
(Beautiful boat). In his defense, he's a retired cop who bought the
thing at an auction and cheap. He took a chance and it really paid off
when he sold it...so all's well. The PDQ actually went up in value in
the two years he had it.
I believe Jeff has a bigger PDQ...not sure and maybe the 36 is too
small, but we didn't like it. It just didn't feel like sailing and
wasn't interesting after 10 minutes. I hated the helm, which felt dead
most of the time. I sailed visually rather than by feel on most tacks.
Suzanne could see the alure for someone who's older. Anthony at 55 sure
didn't like it and sold it after 2 seasons..at a good profit. He agrees
it's just not sailing in any satisfying sense when your on a cat of
that type. They are floating condos and I could care less if you
daysail it or take it around the world. It's still not a boat for
sailors, which is why I don't know a single sailing enthusiast who
wants one. The same mentality behind a PDQ or big Prout is behind
buyers of those big Hunters. They want a stable, ultra roomy
motel/platform that won't heel...and "add some sails if you can,
please."
As for seasickness...I wasn't, but I didn't like the motion. In defense
of the Cat, Suzanne was pregnant at the time. But she never got ill on
the C&C, J24s and all the other monohulls we played with that summer.
I guess Jeff will now say he has the PDQ Deluxe 42 or something and
that it's somehow different. Ok...you can keep that wide load...we aint
interested. The feel of sailing a monohul is what it's all about. If
you don't get that, well, that's just fine.

Capt. Robert B
35s5...a boat that sails the way a sailboat should!
NY

The PDQ we Sailed
 

... You simply can't compare
something like a PDQ 36 to a fun and fast monohull.

You can if you know something about sailing.

I guess very few people know anything about sailing, Doug. Monohulls
continue to be what people want. I'd ask you for your preference and
reasons, but you're incapable of following a thread about sailing...as
you own a powerboat!

RB
35s5
NY

The PDQ we Sailed
 

Capt. Rob wrote:
... You simply can't compare
something like a PDQ 36 to a fun and fast monohull.

You can if you know something about sailing.

I guess very few people know anything about sailing, Doug. Monohulls
continue to be what people want.

Which explains why multihulls are the fastest growing segment of the
industry.

The PDQ we Sailed
 

I've never claimed Bob should get a cat - there for people who like to
cruise to distant places. Someone who thinks cruising is going 3
miles to get "deep into the Sound" and thinks not having A/C would be
"horrific" is better served by a Bendy Toy.


Most long range cruisers use monohulls, Jeff. And Cats are not just for
long range cruisers. I know folks who like them just to relax on as a
waterfront home. Sorry if that offends you, but that's a fact. I don't
concern myself with how other people enjoy their boats. I'll leave that
to you.


The only
part that rings true is that it increased in value.

Oh, really? So you don't agree that the cat is dull to sail compared to
a boat like mine? You actually think your helm is equally sensitive?
Doug already confirmed that the motion is different and some folks
might not like it.
Jeff, you've been bitch slapped again and again. Where will it end?
When will you learn? I'm glad you like your boat, but it's a dull ride
compared to my 35s5 and MOST folks don't want a dull ride. I had no
idea you had the 36. It was a very nice boat, appeared well built and
comfortable. But if I decided to take some long trips with my young son
I'd rather buy a bigger monohull for him than a PDQ 36.

Enjoy!

RB
35s5....a fast and fun boat!
NY

The PDQ we Sailed
 

Which explains why multihulls are the fastest growing segment of the
industry.



Hey, the Mac26X and bloated Hunters sell well too. Doesn't indicate
they're a great or classy boat choice. Face it: You chose a
Motorhome-sailboat Big Mac Combo with fries.
It suits you and that's fine, but most people in this group prefer real
sailing, Jeff. Best if you learn to live with that and head downwind.

Robert B
35s5...a sailboat!
NY

The PDQ we Sailed
 

Just not true. Cats are wonderful for long range cruising for a number of
reasons, not the least of which that they're easier on the crew, being very
stable.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
I've never claimed Bob should get a cat - there for people who like to
cruise to distant places. Someone who thinks cruising is going 3
miles to get "deep into the Sound" and thinks not having A/C would be
"horrific" is better served by a Bendy Toy.


Most long range cruisers use monohulls, Jeff. And Cats are not just for
long range cruisers. I know folks who like them just to relax on as a
waterfront home. Sorry if that offends you, but that's a fact. I don't
concern myself with how other people enjoy their boats. I'll leave that
to you.


The only
part that rings true is that it increased in value.

Oh, really? So you don't agree that the cat is dull to sail compared to
a boat like mine? You actually think your helm is equally sensitive?
Doug already confirmed that the motion is different and some folks
might not like it.
Jeff, you've been bitch slapped again and again. Where will it end?
When will you learn? I'm glad you like your boat, but it's a dull ride
compared to my 35s5 and MOST folks don't want a dull ride. I had no
idea you had the 36. It was a very nice boat, appeared well built and
comfortable. But if I decided to take some long trips with my young son
I'd rather buy a bigger monohull for him than a PDQ 36.

Enjoy!

RB
35s5....a fast and fun boat!
NY

The PDQ we Sailed
 

Just not true. Cats are wonderful for long range cruising for a number
of
reasons, not the least of which that they're easier on the crew, being
very
stable.


But people who are into sailing generally prefer monohulls and folks
who sail locally and want a good time just about NEVER buy a multi.
They are dull to sail by comparison...even compared to a Cal 20.

RB
35s5
NY

The PDQ we Sailed
 

Capt. Rob wrote:
I've never claimed Bob should get a cat - there for people who like to
cruise to distant places. Someone who thinks cruising is going 3
miles to get "deep into the Sound" and thinks not having A/C would be
"horrific" is better served by a Bendy Toy.


Most long range cruisers use monohulls, Jeff.

Monohulls are cheaper, and many older ones on available for well under
the entry price for a cat. But cats are the fastest growing segment,
and if you ever got out of LIS you'd see that.

And Cats are not just for
long range cruisers. I know folks who like them just to relax on as a
waterfront home. Sorry if that offends you, but that's a fact.

Why should I be offended? Lots of people don't use their boats. I've
even heard some fools claim to have cruising boats but then never go
out because sailing without A/C would be horrific!

I don't
concern myself with how other people enjoy their boats. I'll leave that
to you.

On the contrary, all you done for the last few weeks is bitch and moan
the everyone should be envious of you because you have the "best boat
here." That is entirely what this is about: your obsession with
proving that only you know what the best boat is.




The only
part that rings true is that it increased in value.

Oh, really? So you don't agree that the cat is dull to sail compared to
a boat like mine? You actually think your helm is equally sensitive?

Your helm is "sensitive," I just don't see that as an advantage for a
cruising boat. In fact, it would be a disadvantage in a lot of
conditions I sail in.

Doug already confirmed that the motion is different and some folks
might not like it.

So? Some might like it, others don't. Why do you care?

I've found that a few people don't like the quick motion of a cat, but
overall more are unaffected by the motion. And doing 100 miles on a
cat won't leave you "rubber legged" like it will on a mono. But this
is something you'll never understand.

Jeff, you've been bitch slapped again and again.

What? By you? In your dreams!

Where will it end?

When you stop claiming the people should "kill themselves" because
they don't have an aft cabin that, in reality, has no hatches, you
can't sit up in the bunk, and there's not enough room to change
clothes with the door closed.

When will you learn?

This has been a nightmare for you, hasn't it? You thought everyone
would be envious of your boat!

I'm glad you like your boat, but it's a dull ride
compared to my 35s5 and MOST folks don't want a dull ride.

Most folks don't give rats ass one way or t'other.

I had no
idea you had the 36. It was a very nice boat, appeared well built and
comfortable. But if I decided to take some long trips with my young son
I'd rather buy a bigger monohull for him than a PDQ 36.

Don't be so sure. Remember, when I was your age I was sailing racing
dinghies. I had sold my first monohull and was about to buy my second.


Enjoy!

R "Monkey Balls" B
35s5....a fast and funny boat!
NY

The PDQ we Sailed
 

Capt. Rob wrote:
Which explains why multihulls are the fastest growing segment of the
industry.



Hey, the Mac26X and bloated Hunters sell well too. Doesn't indicate
they're a great or classy boat choice. Face it: You chose a
Motorhome-sailboat Big Mac Combo with fries.

Your jealousy is pathetic!!!

It suits you and that's fine, but most people in this group prefer real
sailing, Jeff.

I don't know, not many in this have said they wouldn't want my boat.

Best if you learn to live with that and head downwind.

Right, it would be embarrassingly for when when I passed you going upwind.




Robert "Monkey Balls" B
35s5...a toy sailboat!
NY

The PDQ we Sailed
 

Your helm is "sensitive," I just don't see that as an advantage for a
cruising boat. In fact, it would be a disadvantage in a lot of
conditions I sail in.


Jeff, have you had a tough time absorbing why we bought this boat?

1) To upset Loco. Mission accomplished!!!
2) To drive everyone crazy. Mission accomplished!!!
3) Daysailing
4) BBQing
5) Weekend cruises.

With those goals in mind we bought a great boat! Look at the reaction!
Of course even my C&C 32 was a better boat than most here...this is
just sugar on my transom!

RB
35s5...best boat ever!
NY

The PDQ we Sailed
 

In article . com,
Capt. Rob wrote:
Just not true. Cats are wonderful for long range cruising for a number
of
reasons, not the least of which that they're easier on the crew, being
very
stable.


But people who are into sailing generally prefer monohulls and folks
who sail locally and want a good time just about NEVER buy a multi.
They are dull to sail by comparison...even compared to a Cal 20.

Again, that's just not true. My windrider for example was thrilling to
sail, typically in the north bay, over 10 kts according to my GPS. The
cats I've rented (32-43 feet) were stunningly fast and stable to
boot. They're easy to dock, easy to turn in tight quarters, and you
can bring people who otherwise wouldn't be interested in going, due to
not liking significant heeling and being prone to seasickness. When I
had it in the south bay, I could and did do donuts around 30 foot
monos in 20 kts and 3-4 ft chop. I watched a guy on one lose his hat
and didn't even try to go back, and he was just trying to get out to
the bay. I had no problem retrieving it.

I don't know what your situation is locally, but the fleet of multis
out here is growing pretty quickly.

My Cal 20 was fun to sail, but not for people who wanted to stay dry
(even though it was a fairly dry boat for the conditions).




--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

The PDQ we Sailed
 

Again, that's just not true. My windrider for example was thrilling to
sail, typically in the north bay, over 10 kts according to my GPS. The
cats I've rented (32-43 feet) were stunningly fast and stable to
boot.


The PDQ we sailed was just not fun. Going upwind was dull. Downwind was
also dull There was no sensation of sailing that made me fall in love
with it. I don't doubt they are popular as they remove many of the
aspects that make sailing so enjoyable for the rest of us. I'm
sorry...I just love it when a boat heals and takes off. I love it when
it picks up and we burry the rail. I love to brace myself in the
cockpit and catch a bit of spray. I love to sail.
If I tire of that I'll get a Cat I suppose, but I hope it's a long way
off. I wouldn't want a cat for the same reasons I don't want a Trawler.

Robert B
35s5.
NY

The PDQ we Sailed
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com...
|I wouldn't want a cat for the same reasons I don't want a Trawler.


Because a cat and a trawler are both lacking in character and
function because they incorporate the worst of most everything
in one lackluster unit?

CN

The PDQ we Sailed
 

In article .com,
Capt. Rob wrote:
Again, that's just not true. My windrider for example was thrilling to
sail, typically in the north bay, over 10 kts according to my GPS. The
cats I've rented (32-43 feet) were stunningly fast and stable to
boot.


The PDQ we sailed was just not fun. Going upwind was dull. Downwind was
also dull There was no sensation of sailing that made me fall in love
with it. I don't doubt they are popular as they remove many of the
aspects that make sailing so enjoyable for the rest of us. I'm
sorry...I just love it when a boat heals and takes off. I love it when
it picks up and we burry the rail. I love to brace myself in the
cockpit and catch a bit of spray. I love to sail.
If I tire of that I'll get a Cat I suppose, but I hope it's a long way
off. I wouldn't want a cat for the same reasons I don't want a Trawler.

I didn't enjoy the PDQ 32 as much as the Seawind. Sure, for a couple
of hours, it's not like sailing a mono, but for sailing for any length
of time, it's far better.

There's nothing like sailing along with rooster tails behind the
hulls, screaming along at 14kts, without losing your drinks at every
piece of chop.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

The PDQ we Sailed
 

There's nothing like sailing along with rooster tails behind the
hulls, screaming along at 14kts, without losing your drinks at every
piece of chop.



Well, there you go....I don't drink. And a 35s5 will surf at 14 knots
and scare the crap out of you in the process. And the 35s5 will also be
fun in light air common around here that makes a powerboat of the PDQ.
It's just not a boat I'd be interested in. In 12 knots of air the 35s5
was FLYING. The PDQ needs more air to even begin to be entertaining.
90 percent of sailing is light air sailing around here. Jeff's comments
about motoring is all I need to know to confirm my experience on the
PDQ.
It just can't match a fast light racer like a 35s5 in these parts and
that's that.


Robert B
35s5
NY

The PDQ we Sailed
 

In article .com,
Capt. Rob wrote:
There's nothing like sailing along with rooster tails behind the
hulls, screaming along at 14kts, without losing your drinks at every
piece of chop.

Well, there you go....I don't drink. And a 35s5 will surf at 14 knots
and scare the crap out of you in the process. And the 35s5 will also be
fun in light air common around here that makes a powerboat of the PDQ.
It's just not a boat I'd be interested in. In 12 knots of air the 35s5
was FLYING. The PDQ needs more air to even begin to be entertaining.
90 percent of sailing is light air sailing around here. Jeff's comments
about motoring is all I need to know to confirm my experience on the
PDQ.
It just can't match a fast light racer like a 35s5 in these parts and
that's that.

Not even a soda or some juice?

What does scaring the crap out of someone have to do with cruising?
When I cruise, I don't want that. Like I said, for a couple of hours,
a mono is fine.

The cats I've been on, including the PDQ, Seawind, Athena, Belize, and
certainly my windrider tri were great in light winds. Well, actually,
I only sailed the PDQ and Seawind in heavy air, so I can't really
comment.

The sailing I generally do requires that boats perform well in decent
wind (12 kts of wind is a very light wind day here), but do ok in
light wind. Usually this means shaking out the reef and/or putting up
a jib larger than 100%.

As far as motoring goes, cats tend to do this better than monos. They
can literally turn in their own length (or nearly so), back straight
without having to deal with prop walk, and dock without problems
(although the technique for doing so is quite different from a mono).

I have no doubt that 12 kts is normal for where you are, but if you
ever intend to leave the area, especially for an extended trip, cats
can't be beat. The room on deck is amazing, and quite safe for small
children, as compared to a heeling, wet deck, and below is much more
comfortable... no need to confine a child to one spot or put them in a
hammock for safety.




--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

The PDQ we Sailed
 

Capt. Rob wrote:
There's nothing like sailing along with rooster tails behind the
hulls, screaming along at 14kts, without losing your drinks at every
piece of chop.



Well, there you go....I don't drink. And a 35s5 will surf at 14 knots
and scare the crap out of you in the process.


Well that's a good reason for you to buy one. I prefer doing 12-14
knots in full control. And not for 2 seconds, but for a whole
afternoon.

The PDQ we Sailed
 

What does scaring the crap out of someone have to do with cruising?
When I cruise, I don't want that. Like I said, for a couple of hours,
a mono is fine.


Jonathan, I don't see what's so hard to understand. Most of our sailing
will be daysailing, weekends and so on...on the LIS where winds are
often very light. Around here on too many days a PDQ here is a
powerboat, not a cruiser.
We bought a boat based on our needs and location, not Jeff's. When we
go for a sail it's often for a few hours in 10 knots of wind. What the
heck would a PDQ be on those days? I already know.
I just don't like cats. I don't even like the way they look.

RB
35s5
NY

The PDQ we Sailed
 

In article . com,
Capt. Rob wrote:
What does scaring the crap out of someone have to do with cruising?
When I cruise, I don't want that. Like I said, for a couple of hours,
a mono is fine.


Jonathan, I don't see what's so hard to understand. Most of our sailing
will be daysailing, weekends and so on...on the LIS where winds are
often very light. Around here on too many days a PDQ here is a
powerboat, not a cruiser.
We bought a boat based on our needs and location, not Jeff's. When we
go for a sail it's often for a few hours in 10 knots of wind. What the
heck would a PDQ be on those days? I already know.
I just don't like cats. I don't even like the way they look.

Nothing. I get it completely. Most of my sailing is daysailing,
weekends also. However, the conditions out here dictate smaller
sail configurations. I still find it hard to believe that a
Cat would perform less well than a mono in light winds... perhaps
tacking, but it depends on the boat and the skill of the skipper/crew.

Many people don't like how cats sail or how they look. For cruising
beyond a day sail, they are pretty nice IMHO. Even the PDQ 32 I used
to sail would have been great for an overnighter.

When I was in Belize last, the wind speed was typically below 15 kts,
and we were on a 43' cat. No problems at all.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

The PDQ we Sailed
 

Nothing. I get it completely. Most of my sailing is daysailing,
weekends also. However, the conditions out here dictate smaller
sail configurations. I still find it hard to believe that a
Cat would perform less well than a mono in light winds...


Even Jeff admits the 35s5 would be better in lighter air and I get the
feeling he motors more than he'll admit. And that's fine. My experience
on the PDQ 36 was "okay" but I wasn't impressed by the sailing
qualities, and her owner sold her after two seasons because the boat
was, in his words, "for the older set." Not all multi's are the same of
course.
We're really comparing apples and oranges here. Folks who love classic
monohulls are never going to warm up to a multi's looks or non-heeling
nature.

RB
35s5
NY

The PDQ we Sailed
 

In article . com,
Capt. Rob wrote:
Nothing. I get it completely. Most of my sailing is daysailing,
weekends also. However, the conditions out here dictate smaller
sail configurations. I still find it hard to believe that a
Cat would perform less well than a mono in light winds...


Even Jeff admits the 35s5 would be better in lighter air and I get the
feeling he motors more than he'll admit. And that's fine. My experience
on the PDQ 36 was "okay" but I wasn't impressed by the sailing
qualities, and her owner sold her after two seasons because the boat
was, in his words, "for the older set." Not all multi's are the same of
course.
We're really comparing apples and oranges here. Folks who love classic
monohulls are never going to warm up to a multi's looks or non-heeling
nature.


Well, I love classic monos, but I also like multis. Both have
strengths and weaknesses.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

The PDQ we Sailed
 

Well, I love classic monos, but I also like multis. Both have
strengths and weaknesses.


Agreed...at last!


RB
35s5.
NY

The PDQ we Sailed
 

Capt. Rob wrote:



We're really comparing apples and oranges here. Folks who love classic
monohulls are never going to warm up to a multi's looks or non-heeling
nature.

Folks who really love classic monohulls wouldn't buy a bendy.
Remember, my first larger boat was an Alberg style, my next was a
Nonsuch catboat. I don't see a need for a larger sailboat, so my next
will probably be a true classic, like a Marshall or Alerion.

http://www.marshallcat.com/M22Lines.htm
http://www.proper-yachts.com/alerion26reviews.htm

However, for now, a family vacation cruiser it the best boat. When I
want to heel, I can sail one of my dinghies.

BTW, who do you think championed multis in the US over 100 years ago?

The PDQ we Sailed
 

monohulls are never going to warm up to a multi's looks or non-heeling
nature.

Folks who really love classic monohulls wouldn't buy a bendy.


Way to go, Jeff. Beneteau is the world's top sailboat builder, making
cruisers, racers and custom yachts. But all of those folks don't like
classic monohull boats!
You heard it here first!

RB
35s5....a classic monohull
NY

The PDQ we Sailed
 

However, for now, a family vacation cruiser it the best boat. When I
want to heel, I can sail one of my dinghies.


Yeah, sailing a dinghy is JUST like sailing a keelboat, Jeff!!!
Do you notice you've been abandoned in this thread? You've said so many
dumb things even Loco is keeping quiet. Then again Loco owns a fast
monohull (that can't be cruised!) that's an even worse choice than my
boat according to your criteria! Same goes for ALL of the monohulls
here!
Oh, Jeff...in your failed attempts to attack me...you've managed to hit
everyone else with your stray idiot bullets!

RB
35s5...The winner!
NY

The PDQ we Sailed
 

Well that's a good reason for you to buy one. I prefer doing 12-14
knots in full control.


And the monohull isn't? Oh. I hope everyone is learning from Jeff.
Monohulls sailing fast and surfing are not in full control. In fact
they require careful attention and skill to sail at those speeds, while
the cat does not.
Golly, Jeff...can you make even one good point for the multi has a fast
and fun boat to sail? BTW, we did almost 10 knots in the PDQ and with
ease. Only problem was...we barely noticed. Maybe that's a good thing
for some folks, but we like the sensations of sailing. The PDQ was like
driving a Nissan Titan...big, powerful, easy to drive...and utterly and
completely boring. Nothing you can say or claim will reverse this
simple fact. The very FACT that you admit to sailing a dinghy to
acquire that fun-factor PROVES that your boat does not have it!
BTW, you have to be the slowest, most dim debater. You have failed to
make a single point without shooting yourself down. It's been truly
amazing. And now your in my web, stuck making post after post. You know
this is my game, and yet here you are, taking one kick in the rubber
parts after the next!

RB
35s5...about 300 times more fun to sail than a PDQ 36!
NY

The PDQ we Sailed
 

The solution is to mount a Melges 24 off the back
of a 65' Catamarran!


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote

I didn't enjoy the PDQ 32 as much as the Seawind. Sure, for a couple
of hours, it's not like sailing a mono, but for sailing for any length
of time, it's far better.

There's nothing like sailing along with rooster tails behind the
hulls, screaming along at 14kts, without losing your drinks at every
piece of chop.

The PDQ we Sailed
 

In article , Bart Senior .@. wrote:
The solution is to mount a Melges 24 off the back
of a 65' Catamarran!


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote

I didn't enjoy the PDQ 32 as much as the Seawind. Sure, for a couple
of hours, it's not like sailing a mono, but for sailing for any length
of time, it's far better.

There's nothing like sailing along with rooster tails behind the
hulls, screaming along at 14kts, without losing your drinks at every
piece of chop.


Damn... why didn't I think of that.....




--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com