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Capt. Rob November 7th 05 04:02 PM

The Daring Sailor
 
Whoa! Deep into the sound? Isn't that where all the scary monsters
are??? Isn't this where Jax had to call the CG because the engine on
his sailboat was running a little hot? Just how "deep into the sound"
are we talking here - 5 miles? 6?


Exactly, Jeff. Heading out closer to Oyster Bay where the Sound starts
to open up is far safer than with all the drunks on a their Jetski's
and Bayliners. It's always protected waters, but you can still add to
the safety factor by getting away from the heavy traffic.

RB
35s5...the better boat
NY


Capt. Neal® November 7th 05 04:03 PM

The Daring Sailor
 
It's got to do with the tofu and alfalfa sprouts those New Yorkers
are so fond of . . .

CN


"Gilligan" wrote in message k.net...
| Since when is the smell of sewage regarded as "light air"?
|
| Gilligan
|
| "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
| ...
|
| "Capt. Rob" wrote in message
| ups.com...
| | Begs the question... if you are going to sail 'offshore"..... why would
| | you
| | need a light air boat?
| |
| | I'm not sailing offshore. We bought the 35s5 because we will be sailing
| | mostly on the LIS for short sails with a 2-year-old. Light air is what
| | we have 80% of the time.
|
|
|
| But, how old is your son?
|
| CN
|
|


Capt. Rob November 7th 05 04:05 PM

The Daring Sailor
 
Wow, you're wayyyy off base here booby, you're losing your grip ...
are you seriously claiming you're a braver sailor because you stay
close to your slip where all sorts of bozos keep hitting things?


Nope. I'm just brave all on my own.


RB
35s5...a brave sailboat!
NY


Capt. Rob November 7th 05 04:08 PM

The Daring Sailor
 
My boat is very fast for a cruiser design.


No, it isn't. It's not even lower middle of the pack.


RB
35s5...a truly fast cruiser.
NY


Capt. Rob November 7th 05 04:12 PM

The Daring Sailor
 
Now bob... just a question.... on your C&C 35s5... do you reef the main

prior to the headsail or reef the headsail prior to the main. On full
keelers you always reef the main prior to reducing headsail


Mooron, you do know that the 35s5 is a fractional rig, right? You do
know that I can sail FAST with just the main and still outpoint you,
right? You do know that a typical 110% is all you need when you have
this kind of light air ability, right? Since the main is much of the
drive (assuming I don't have the 150% mylar up) I'd reef the main. Of
course reefing the jib is fast via smooth RF. I'll simply reef before
you and still pass you on any point of sail...and have more fun to
boot!

Robert B
35s5...a boat that outsails a Nordic 30 in ALL conditions.


Capt. Rob November 7th 05 04:15 PM

The Daring Sailor
 
Hopefully I've pushed your reset button and get the watchdog
power-on-reset
circuit checked. He's sucking you in. You can fight it!



Gilligan...my genious is mixing just enough real sounding stuff with
the absurd. Since most people have no imagination, it's almost always
going to work. Look at Scotty's recent post about me being a decent
fellow in person. Well, duh! But this is alt.sailing.asa where the
villains have more fun.
Darth Vader always had more fun than Luke...and his suit was air
conditioned just like my 35s5!

Robert B
35s5...The boat to be called....Jedi!!!!!!
NY


Jeff November 7th 05 04:23 PM

The Daring Sailor
 
Capt. Rob wrote:
Seriously, Bob, there's no reason why you can't do that. You'll have
a nurse on board and you can get med-evac'd from anywhere you're
likely to go. You're kid is still young enough that he doesn't need
friends or civilization on a daily basis (this will change in a few
years). And for all my ragging your bendy is probably up to it, if
you don't mind roughing it a bit.

Roughing it? How so? Our boat is more comfortable than yours and
doesn't need to motor in the commonly light airs here. It even has AC
and heat. A boat without AC is horrific in August.


BWAAHAHAHAHAHA!! A boat without A/C is horrific! I think that says
it all! And even more bizarre, he doesn't even have a genset, so it
can only be used at the slip with shorepower. In other words, the
very concept of cruising the boat is horrific to Bob! (And bragging
about having heat when it has to be plugged into shorepower is just
plain stupid!)

And claiming its more comfortable than mine is pretty clueless, when I
have two queen size bunks, both with double overhead hatches (plus
third small cabin also with overhead hatch); a large head AND a
standup shower; a galley with large counter space; a freezer larger
than his fridge; enough standing room in the cabins to close the door
while changing clothes ... The list goes on and on, but its lost on
someone who thinks sailing without A/C is horrific!

My decks space is big enough for family and guests to stretch out and
sun bath; my cockpit has room for a crowd. I carry a dinghy in davits
and a kayak on deck. But all Bob can do is stay in the slip and
huddle down below to enjoy the A/C and watch 3 TVs. Otherwise it
would be horrific!

You need to forget about trying to sell everyone on your cat. Most
sailors prefer boats like mine..one hull, traditional heeling and the
like.


There are lots of nice cruising monohulls. There are lots of
monohulls that actually have a hatch in the main stateroom. Or a
hatch in the head. Or a galley that counter space measured in feet,
not inches. Even my old 30 footer had these things. You keep talking
about your spiffy interior but there really isn't a single aspect of
it that's true comfort, it has just a few touches that look nice in a
brochure.

Ventilation is measured in hatches, not A/C. Does your head have a
single hatch? Counters are measured in actually space, not granite.
Does your galley have even a few inches of counter space? How do
you call a boat comfortable if you can't sleep, eat or poop in it?

The same qualities that make your boat so "lively" to sail will make
it roll at anchor, while mine is rock steady. Of course, you'll never
sleep at anchor because that would be "horrific"!

It's WHY we like to sail and a Cat is just another animal...like
a Trawler to us. I'm honestly glad you love the boat and that's all
that should matter, Jeff.


yup.


But seriously, and all BS asside....Suzanne just started her new career
and any long trips are pretty much out for next season. We may get a
shot to Block Island at the most, but that's all.


Bock Island is only 100 nm from your slip, it should be easy. But
make sure you have a reservation for a slip, because otherwise it
would be horrific!

By her second year,
Suzanne will get 5 weeks vacation and things will be different. I'll be
thrilled to day sail the 35s5 and spend some weekends aboard with my
son when she works.


Sorry Bob, you won't be able to sail alone with your kid for a few
years unless you have someone else aboard. Really, its just doesn't
work any other way. In fact, you'll be single handing while Suzy
watches the kid. But you'll figure this out soon enough.

I still have a vivid memory of going into the first lock on the Erie
Canal and hearing our then 3 1/2 year old yelling "I have to go pottie!"


And I'll be tickled when can all set off of some
long weekends.


Just make sure you have reservations for the slip at Capri.



Gilligan November 7th 05 04:31 PM

The Daring Sailor
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hopefully I've pushed your reset button and get the watchdog
power-on-reset
circuit checked. He's sucking you in. You can fight it!



Gilligan...my genious is mixing just enough real sounding stuff with
the absurd. Since most people have no imagination, it's almost always
going to work. Look at Scotty's recent post about me being a decent
fellow in person. Well, duh! But this is alt.sailing.asa where the
villains have more fun.
Darth Vader always had more fun than Luke...and his suit was air
conditioned just like my 35s5!

Robert B
35s5...The boat to be called....Jedi!!!!!!
NY


You're absolutely right there RB. If villians have more fun, is that because
fun is considered evil?

Gilligan



Gilligan November 7th 05 04:34 PM

The Daring Sailor
 
Running that AC will greatly increase electrolytic corrosion below the
waterline.

Gilligan


"Jeff" wrote in message
...
Capt. Rob wrote:
Seriously, Bob, there's no reason why you can't do that. You'll have
a nurse on board and you can get med-evac'd from anywhere you're
likely to go. You're kid is still young enough that he doesn't need
friends or civilization on a daily basis (this will change in a few
years). And for all my ragging your bendy is probably up to it, if
you don't mind roughing it a bit.

Roughing it? How so? Our boat is more comfortable than yours and
doesn't need to motor in the commonly light airs here. It even has AC
and heat. A boat without AC is horrific in August.


BWAAHAHAHAHAHA!! A boat without A/C is horrific! I think that says
it all! And even more bizarre, he doesn't even have a genset, so it
can only be used at the slip with shorepower. In other words, the
very concept of cruising the boat is horrific to Bob! (And bragging
about having heat when it has to be plugged into shorepower is just
plain stupid!)

And claiming its more comfortable than mine is pretty clueless, when I
have two queen size bunks, both with double overhead hatches (plus
third small cabin also with overhead hatch); a large head AND a
standup shower; a galley with large counter space; a freezer larger
than his fridge; enough standing room in the cabins to close the door
while changing clothes ... The list goes on and on, but its lost on
someone who thinks sailing without A/C is horrific!

My decks space is big enough for family and guests to stretch out and
sun bath; my cockpit has room for a crowd. I carry a dinghy in davits
and a kayak on deck. But all Bob can do is stay in the slip and
huddle down below to enjoy the A/C and watch 3 TVs. Otherwise it
would be horrific!

You need to forget about trying to sell everyone on your cat. Most
sailors prefer boats like mine..one hull, traditional heeling and the
like.


There are lots of nice cruising monohulls. There are lots of
monohulls that actually have a hatch in the main stateroom. Or a
hatch in the head. Or a galley that counter space measured in feet,
not inches. Even my old 30 footer had these things. You keep talking
about your spiffy interior but there really isn't a single aspect of
it that's true comfort, it has just a few touches that look nice in a
brochure.

Ventilation is measured in hatches, not A/C. Does your head have a
single hatch? Counters are measured in actually space, not granite.
Does your galley have even a few inches of counter space? How do
you call a boat comfortable if you can't sleep, eat or poop in it?

The same qualities that make your boat so "lively" to sail will make
it roll at anchor, while mine is rock steady. Of course, you'll never
sleep at anchor because that would be "horrific"!

It's WHY we like to sail and a Cat is just another animal...like
a Trawler to us. I'm honestly glad you love the boat and that's all
that should matter, Jeff.


yup.


But seriously, and all BS asside....Suzanne just started her new career
and any long trips are pretty much out for next season. We may get a
shot to Block Island at the most, but that's all.


Bock Island is only 100 nm from your slip, it should be easy. But
make sure you have a reservation for a slip, because otherwise it
would be horrific!

By her second year,
Suzanne will get 5 weeks vacation and things will be different. I'll be
thrilled to day sail the 35s5 and spend some weekends aboard with my
son when she works.


Sorry Bob, you won't be able to sail alone with your kid for a few
years unless you have someone else aboard. Really, its just doesn't
work any other way. In fact, you'll be single handing while Suzy
watches the kid. But you'll figure this out soon enough.

I still have a vivid memory of going into the first lock on the Erie
Canal and hearing our then 3 1/2 year old yelling "I have to go pottie!"


And I'll be tickled when can all set off of some
long weekends.


Just make sure you have reservations for the slip at Capri.





Capt. Rob November 7th 05 04:36 PM

The Daring Sailor
 
Running that AC will greatly increase electrolytic corrosion below the
waterline.

The system is isolated 100%. The previous owner was quite worried about
it.


RB



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