"Capt. Neal®" wrote:

"Lady Pilot" wrote: |
| "Capt. Neal®" wrote:
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| "Capt. Rob" wrote:
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| Snipped some
| | | I'm the safest sailor here!
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| It stands to reason that you're the safest sailor here - you don't
sail.
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| Neither do you, so maybe it's a tie?
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| LP


The only tie around here is the tie between your waistline in inches and
your IQ - both being 53!

Oooohhh, so your saying that you like fat women with no brains? Sorry to
disappoint you!

LP

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message news:Iwbcf.4329$4l5.791@dukeread05...
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| "Capt. Neal®" wrote:
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| "Lady Pilot" wrote: |
| | "Capt. Neal®" wrote:
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| | "Capt. Rob" wrote:
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| | Snipped some
| | | | I'm the safest sailor here!
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| | It stands to reason that you're the safest sailor here - you don't
| sail.
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| | Neither do you, so maybe it's a tie?
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| | LP
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| The only tie around here is the tie between your waistline in inches and
| your IQ - both being 53!
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| Oooohhh, so your saying that you like fat women with no brains? Sorry to
| disappoint you!
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| LP
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|

If I liked fat women with no brains I would be chasing Shortcake or
Katysails or Ganz!

CN

Capt. Rob wrote:
....
10 years of sailing in near-coastal waters and not one injury onboard
my 3 sailboats...and literally hundreds and hundreds of guests.

I doubt you have any "near coastal" time. Certainly LIS does not
count as "near coastal," its strictly inland.

I'm the safest sailor here!

How do you figure this? You've taken a few friends out for a few
hours in protected waters a few dozen times.

I've been sailing almost 50 years and never had a crew injured. This
includes several years on the inter-collegiate circuit, 6 years
instructing in dinks, numerous New England trips from NYC to Down
East, and several for the entire East Coast. Never needed more than a
bandaid, and while living aboard, never had a serious illness. Also,
I've never had an insurance claim on any boat.

My sister-in-law did have a near-death experience the first time we
gybed on the Nonsuch, buts that's another story.

Actually, this is more or less common for most of my friends. I do
have one friend, though, who seemed to need at least one emergency
room trip every year. He would routinely whack someone with a gybe -
this was one reason why an overhead traveler became high on my
priority list. A typical incident (non-boating) for him: he was
working under his car where the front was on jack stands, and managed
to short the starter. The car jumped off the stand and crushed his
hip, keeping him in a hospital bed for three months. Now that I think
of it, after that he bought a large Beneteau. I haven't seen him for
a few years, but I doubt his "luck" has changed.




CRAPTAIN Robert B
35s5....the sickest boat on Alt.Sailing.Asa
NY

"Jeff" wrote in message

I've been sailing almost 50 years and never had a crew injured.

I view that statement in the same manner as "I've never run aground".....
accidents happen no matter what steps are taken to avoid them.

I can't begin to count the stubbed toes, cuts, rope burns, fingers jammed in
the sheets around the winch, hand slammed with the cockpit lid... and that's
just me!

Oh BTW... I've hit bottom an embarrassing amount of times. [ Till I learned
to turn off the sounder, since then.. nada]

I think both you and Bob are taking liberties with historical data... :-)

CM

Capt.Mooron wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message

I've been sailing almost 50 years and never had a crew injured.

I view that statement in the same manner as "I've never run aground".....
accidents happen no matter what steps are taken to avoid them.

I can't begin to count the stubbed toes, cuts, rope burns, fingers jammed in
the sheets around the winch, hand slammed with the cockpit lid... and that's
just me!

As I said, nothing worse than a bandaid. Sure there have been stubbed
toes and rope burns and some bruises. On the second day of our
yearlong trip I actually almost fed my finger to the windlass, but
caught myself while still in the "bandaid" phase. Another split
second and I would have "Four Finger Jeff." And my daughter caught a
really nasty dock splinter. But no stitches, no broken bones, no
hospital trips, no insurance claims. I've never had a crew injured,
and I have to go back to my college days to when I did a few dumb
things to myself like use my arm as a fender, and my face as a boom
crutch.

Perhaps things would have been different if I raced more, or drank
more, but crew safety has always been top priority for me. It was a
major part of our decision to by a cat - no tipping, no steep
companionway, huge foredeck, modest rig compared to the size, shallow
draft, almost unsinkable - but that a whole other discussion.



Oh BTW... I've hit bottom an embarrassing amount of times. [ Till I learned
to turn off the sounder, since then.. nada]

I've scraped a soft bottom a number of times, and nudged a rock, but
never hit anything hard. My only bad grounding happened at anchor,
when we got pulled a lot closer to the riverbank than I expected. At
2AM I was frantically doing trig calculations to determine if the cat
could actually be flipped by hanging up on one hull!

People who live near shallow water with soft bottoms can take bottom
routinely, but on a rocky coast with 10 foot tides navigation is taken
seriously. And with the new electronics, there's really no excuse
other than stupidity and liquor.

BTW, the "bad luck" case I mentioned in my last post routinely bounced
off rocks, in some case the same rock several times. On his first
trip into Boston he followed the "Red Left Returning" rule and hit
Lower Middle at six knots, fast enough to break the engine mounts,
destroy the exhaust, and bend the rudder shaft.


I think both you and Bob are taking liberties with historical data... :-)

Actually Bob confessed to whacking a rock a mile from his slip, even
after his navigational error had been pointed out ...

"Jeff" wrote



Perhaps things would have been different if I raced more, or
drank
more,

it's never too late to start.

Actually Bob confessed to whacking a rock a mile from his slip, even
after his navigational error had been pointed out ...


Yep...it's true. In fact Over the past 11 years I've whacked TWO rocks.
In BOTH cases I knew exactly where they were, but was CERTAIN I still
had room to navigate. When sailing in other areas of the Sound and NY
harbor I've yet to hit anything. When we went to the Thimble Islands we
dragged through some mud...but we expected to.

RB
35s5...a boat with a draft of only 4.9!
NY

Capt. Rob wrote:
Actually Bob confessed to whacking a rock a mile from his slip, even
after his navigational error had been pointed out ...


Yep...it's true. In fact Over the past 11 years I've whacked TWO rocks.
In BOTH cases I knew exactly where they were, but was CERTAIN I still
had room to navigate.

Omigod! You knew exactly where the rock was but didn't know where you
were? You knew where you were but did know how the boat would turn?
Sorry, Bob, you were clueless!

When sailing in other areas of the Sound and NY
harbor I've yet to hit anything.

Are you bragging that you never hit a rock when there was more than 10
feet of water?

When we went to the Thimble Islands we
dragged through some mud...but we expected to.

It depends on where you were - the Thimbles are an exceptionally rocky
area - this is not a place to have any doubts.


RB
35s5...a boat with a draft of only 4.9!

Get a clue - this is not really a shoal draft boat.