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Capt. Rob November 1st 05 01:49 PM

Dolphins!
 
I forgot to mention that when test sailing the 35s5 last Tuesday a pod
of Dolphins swam with us for quite a while. I guess some of you see
that all the time, but it was way-cool!!! Even the Dolphins dug the
shape of the 35s5!


Robert B
35s5


Bob Crantz November 1st 05 02:05 PM

Dolphins!
 
Tell us about what you see in the water around City Island.

Tell us about the "fresh air" and the "spray" in your face!

Bwaahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha!!!!!

Amen!

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
I forgot to mention that when test sailing the 35s5 last Tuesday a pod
of Dolphins swam with us for quite a while. I guess some of you see
that all the time, but it was way-cool!!! Even the Dolphins dug the
shape of the 35s5!


Robert B
35s5




Martin Baxter November 1st 05 02:18 PM

Dolphins!
 
"Capt. Rob" wrote:
Even the Dolphins dug the
shape of the 35s5!


Did you do a mind meld with them?

Cheers
Martin

Capt. Rob November 1st 05 02:19 PM

Dolphins!
 
Tell us about what you see in the water around City Island.

Tell us about the "fresh air" and the "spray" in your face!

The air is pretty fresh where we sail! The LIS is actually a pretty
clean body of water because of the flow exchange. The damage to the
ecosystem is in the silt.

RB


Jeff November 1st 05 02:26 PM

Dolphins!
 
Only boats that waste energy on bow waves attract dolphins. My boat
glides through the water with almost no wave making resistance.



Capt. Rob wrote:
I forgot to mention that when test sailing the 35s5 last Tuesday a pod
of Dolphins swam with us for quite a while. I guess some of you see
that all the time, but it was way-cool!!! Even the Dolphins dug the
shape of the 35s5!


Robert B
35s5


Capt. Rob November 1st 05 02:28 PM

Dolphins!
 
Only boats that waste energy on bow waves attract dolphins. My boat
glides through the water with almost no wave making resistance.

Dang! They were also following a big Swan out there. It was the only
boat out faster than us. I guess those Swans are wasting energy too!!!

Bwahahahahahaha!

RB


Capt. Rob November 1st 05 02:32 PM

Dolphins!
 
Even the Dolphins dug the
shape of the 35s5!



Did you do a mind meld with them?


Too scared! I thought they could be hiding a shark. But they stuck
around even when we stopped to check the electronics...I guess it was
all that wasted energy!

RB
35s5


Bob Crantz November 1st 05 02:33 PM

Dolphins!
 
But Bush is President!

The pollution now is much worse!

The air and water are ruined!

Bush = pollution!!!

Hypocrite!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!!!

Going swimming?

Dive in to clean the bottom of your boat?

Is it really UC? Or did you ingest the water?

Amen!


"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
Tell us about what you see in the water around City Island.

Tell us about the "fresh air" and the "spray" in your face!

The air is pretty fresh where we sail! The LIS is actually a pretty
clean body of water because of the flow exchange. The damage to the
ecosystem is in the silt.

RB




Jeff November 1st 05 02:37 PM

Dolphins!
 
Capt. Rob wrote:
Only boats that waste energy on bow waves attract dolphins. My boat
glides through the water with almost no wave making resistance.

Dang! They were also following a big Swan out there. It was the only
boat out faster than us. I guess those Swans are wasting energy too!!!


Of course they do. If you knew anything about boats you'd understand.
Why do you think my boat is faster than yours in a breeze, at all
points of sail? Why do you think my boat can do 17 knots with less
sail area than yours? It isn't by making bow waves!

Capt. Rob November 1st 05 02:44 PM

Dolphins!
 
Why do you think my boat is faster than yours in a breeze, at all
points of sail?


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! LOL!!!!
Let us know when you get a real sailboat!

RB


Capt. Rob November 1st 05 04:03 PM

Dolphins!
 
They probably scatter when you start the engines to come about.


Start his engines? On that boated oil rig they're never off.

RB
35s5...a real sailboat!


Thom Stewart November 1st 05 04:14 PM

Dolphins!
 
Nuty,

Dolpins? Are you sure they weren't Porpoise?

Ole Thom





Capt. Rob November 1st 05 05:14 PM

Dolphins!
 
Thom, I'm always at the ready to prove people in this group dead wrong.
I had my camera with me, so here's a picture.

http://www.pnwrewards.com/images/toy...oy-dolphin.jpg

RB
35s5


Martin Baxter November 1st 05 05:30 PM

Dolphins!
 
"Capt. Rob" wrote:

Even the Dolphins dug the
shape of the 35s5!


Did you do a mind meld with them?

Too scared! I thought they could be hiding a shark.


I thaought that dolphins disliked sharks and would drive them away?

Cheers
Martin

Capt. Rob November 1st 05 06:01 PM

Dolphins!
 
Too scared! I thought they could be hiding a shark.

I thaought that dolphins disliked sharks and would drive them away?


Not MY shark.

RB
35s5...A better boat than yours


Martin Baxter November 1st 05 06:37 PM

Dolphins!
 
"Capt. Rob" wrote:

Too scared! I thought they could be hiding a shark.


I thaought that dolphins disliked sharks and would drive them away?

Not MY shark.


Ah, I see, you are refering to the nefarious sharkus imaginus horibilis,
truly the most vicious creature to roam the seas.

Cheers
Martin


Thom Stewart November 1st 05 07:04 PM

Dolphins!
 
Gawd Nutsy,

How stupid can you get? Those toys are Porpoise. A Dolphin doesn't have
a snout.

If you'd get ass out around the Eastern end of the Sound, you'd see
Porpoise.

A porpoise is an air breathing mammal. A Dolphin is a Fish, extracting
air thru Gills.

You can't even get a phony picture right.

Ole Thom
P/S Raining like the "Hammers of Hell" out here. Dog and I are getting
house bound.





Capt. Rob November 1st 05 07:55 PM

Dolphins!
 
A porpoise is an air breathing mammal. A Dolphin is a Fish, extracting
air thru Gills.


Thom, what's the matter? Don't you know I'm a marine biologist?
Bottlenose Dolphin is NO FISH.
Snap out of it, dude.

RB


Bob Crantz November 1st 05 08:37 PM

Dolphins!
 
http://www.oag.state.ny.us/environme...on_rivers.html

Cook at 1400F!




"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
I forgot to mention that when test sailing the 35s5 last Tuesday a pod
of Dolphins swam with us for quite a while. I guess some of you see
that all the time, but it was way-cool!!! Even the Dolphins dug the
shape of the 35s5!


Robert B
35s5




Capt.Mooron November 1st 05 09:07 PM

Dolphins!
 
Frankly speaking..... I wouldn't sail in that water let alone swim in it. It
always appears to be a turbid brownish green in all Bob's photos. I've seen
sewage lagoons that looked cleaner. Not the type of water one wants splashed
on bare epidermis.

What can you do..... It's Bobsprit's cruising grounds and it's not like he
has any choice in the matter. I can't blame Bob for minimizing his exposure
by taking only short sails infrequently and remaining dock bound where
sanitary facilities and medical assistance are readily available. It's
either Long Island Sewage.... or the security of a Sailboat Condo at the
marina.

I'm certainly glad that the coast of Nova Scotia is still relatively
pristine and the water is a deep blue.

CM


"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
ink.net...
http://www.oag.state.ny.us/environme...on_rivers.html

Cook at 1400F!




"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
I forgot to mention that when test sailing the 35s5 last Tuesday a pod
of Dolphins swam with us for quite a while. I guess some of you see
that all the time, but it was way-cool!!! Even the Dolphins dug the
shape of the 35s5!


Robert B
35s5






Capt. Neal® November 1st 05 09:09 PM

Dolphins!
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com...
| Why do you think my boat is faster than yours in a breeze, at all
| points of sail?
|
|
| BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! LOL!!!!
| Let us know when you get a real sailboat!
|
| RB
|

Too ignorant to answer a simple question?

Jeff might have one of those inherently dangerous catamarans that are more
stable upside down than rightside up but at least Jeff has been known to sail
his vessel hundreds of miles (and perhaps up to a thousand miles) from his home
port. This makes him at least twice as brave and many times more of a sailor
than you will ever be even in your wildest dreams.

You're too chicken to schlep your fat arse out of LICS (Long Island Cesspool
Sound). Therefore, when you criticize Jeff and his vessel you sound very
foolish. But, then again, you are a professed liberal and being a fool is the
very essence of liberalism so you get a Brownie point or two for consistency. . .

CN

Jeff November 1st 05 09:48 PM

Dolphins!
 
Capt. Rob wrote:
Why do you think my boat is faster than yours in a breeze, at all
points of sail?


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! LOL!!!!
Let us know when you get a real sailboat!



Why do you have trouble believing that my boat is much faster than
yours? It is, after all, 3000 pounds lighter and has about the same
sail area. In 20 knots I can go upwind at over 8 knots, at 45 degrees
to the true wind. Footing off a bit and she'll do 10 knots. The
racing version of my boat rates 51, and the standard rig of the
smaller version rates 105.

Your boat is a clumsy toy by comparison. Live with it.

Jeff November 1st 05 10:31 PM

Dolphins!
 
Capt. Neal® wrote:
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com...
| Why do you think my boat is faster than yours in a breeze, at all
| points of sail?
|
| BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! LOL!!!!
| Let us know when you get a real sailboat!

Too ignorant to answer a simple question?

Jeff might have one of those inherently dangerous catamarans that are more
stable upside down than rightside up but at least Jeff has been known to sail
his vessel hundreds of miles (and perhaps up to a thousand miles) from his home
port. This makes him at least twice as brave and many times more of a sailor
than you will ever be even in your wildest dreams.


Thank you for the kind words, Neal. As for flipping, you know, of
course, that there have been very, very few occurrences of that in
cruising cats. And interesting aspect is that it has never happened
under bare poles. The stability of a cat can give a false sense of
security, leading some people to stay over canvassed. For my boat,
which is a tad under rigged, the capsize point with full sail is 45
knots of wind.

And yes, we've been more than 1000 miles from home, from Boston south
to Key West, and north to Toronto and Bar Harbor. We've used the
boat less the last few years, but still got out for 6 weeks this year.
I figure we've slept on board for about 600 nights away from home.
And we don't seem to need A/C!

A friend returned from wintering in Newfoundland (!) and got me
thinking: If we sailed around Nova Scotia one summer we could leave
the boat around Cape Brenton or maybe in Sydney for the winter. The
next year we could hop over to Newfoundland for a summer, and them
return to Sydney. The third summer perhaps go up the St. Lawrence and
through Lake Champlain to return. How's that sound for a plan?

Here's some of my friend's pics of Newfoundland:
http://liveaboard.sv-moonshadow.com/...004/index.html
and their sailing site:
http://liveaboard.sv-moonshadow.com/mnshdw.htm

Capt. Rob November 1st 05 11:50 PM

Dolphins!
 
It is, after all, 3000 pounds lighter and has about the same
sail area. In 20 knots I can go upwind at over 8 knots, at 45 degrees
to the true wind. Footing off a bit and she'll do 10 knots

Best see my polars. Your boat's upwind is my boats reach!
Live with it and let us know when you get a proper sailboat instead of
a barge.

RB
35s5-a better boat than yours.


Scotty November 2nd 05 12:02 AM

Dolphins!
 

"Swab Rob" wrote ...
Tell us about what you see in the water around City Island.

Tell us about the "fresh air" and the "spray" in your face!

The air is pretty fresh where we sail! The LIS is actually a

pretty
clean body of water because of the flow exchange.


Flow exchange = when New Yawkers flush their toirlets.

SV



Jeff November 2nd 05 12:15 AM

Dolphins!
 
Capt. Rob wrote:
It is, after all, 3000 pounds lighter and has about the same
sail area. In 20 knots I can go upwind at over 8 knots, at 45 degrees
to the true wind. Footing off a bit and she'll do 10 knots

Best see my polars. Your boat's upwind is my boats reach!
Live with it and let us know when you get a proper sailboat instead of
a barge.


Are you claiming you can only reach at 8 knots? Why don't you show
those polars and we'll explain them to you.

I haven't seen the polar for the 35s5, but here it is for the 407,
certainly a faster boat by farr. You'll note that upwind it doesn't
see 8 knots until its at 55 true. Overall, it would almost keep up
with my boat, but only if they flew the chute. The light air
performance, I admit, is impressive.

http://www.1stsailing.com/Boats/BoaI...hnicalData.jpg

Capt. Rob November 2nd 05 12:30 AM

Dolphins!
 
Overall, it would almost keep up
with my boat, but only if they flew the chute. The light air
performance, I admit, is impressive.


And here on the LIS light air is what it's all about. We sailed the
35s5 in less than 8 knots and made better than 4. Owners of the 35s5
love the light air ability and just about all aspects of it's
performance. Your boat might hit some big numbers off the wind, but
it's still a sea-truck for old folks. Most people who actually like to
sail wouldn't think of owning one anymore than they'd own a trawler.

RB
35s5...a better boat than yours


Jeff November 2nd 05 12:56 AM

Dolphins!
 
Capt. Rob wrote:
Overall, it would almost keep up
with my boat, but only if they flew the chute. The light air
performance, I admit, is impressive.


And here on the LIS light air is what it's all about. We sailed the
35s5 in less than 8 knots and made better than 4. Owners of the 35s5
love the light air ability and just about all aspects of it's
performance. Your boat might hit some big numbers off the wind, but
it's still a sea-truck for old folks. Most people who actually like to
sail wouldn't think of owning one anymore than they'd own a trawler.


Most of the owners of my sisterships do extensive cruising, up and
down the East Coast, the Bahamas, Bermuda, Caribbean, South America.
I've met more than half, and don't know any that haven't done at least
one extended cruise. Rather impressive given that fewer than 100 were
built. They don't stay in one corner of a pond where there's no wind.

Most people who own bendy-toys are terrified of going further from
their slip than the shore power cable will reach. They challenge
others to a race, but then claim they're "too busy" to actually travel
anywhere to race. They brag about having A/C but the boat is so
poorly ventilated that A/C is needed for survival. They claim the
head is large, but don't mention there isn't a shower.

And you call 4 knots in an 8 knots breeze fast? I can probably do
that! Now if you could do 6 or 7 knots in an 8 knot breeze, I'd be
impressed!








RB
35s5...a better boat than yours


Bob Crantz November 2nd 05 12:57 AM

Dolphins!
 
Right you are Mooron.

However Boobsie complains about pollution, yet he chooses to live in the
worse of it.

Would you raise a child in such a place? It borders on child abuse.

His neighborhood in Queens is the worst for air pollution, it is at the
confluence of 5 major expressways.

Why does he stay?

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:nOQ9f.73070$S4.48813@edtnps84...
Frankly speaking..... I wouldn't sail in that water let alone swim in it.

It
always appears to be a turbid brownish green in all Bob's photos. I've

seen
sewage lagoons that looked cleaner. Not the type of water one wants

splashed
on bare epidermis.

What can you do..... It's Bobsprit's cruising grounds and it's not like he
has any choice in the matter. I can't blame Bob for minimizing his

exposure
by taking only short sails infrequently and remaining dock bound where
sanitary facilities and medical assistance are readily available. It's
either Long Island Sewage.... or the security of a Sailboat Condo at the
marina.

I'm certainly glad that the coast of Nova Scotia is still relatively
pristine and the water is a deep blue.

CM


"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
ink.net...
http://www.oag.state.ny.us/environme...on_rivers.html

Cook at 1400F!




"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
I forgot to mention that when test sailing the 35s5 last Tuesday a pod
of Dolphins swam with us for quite a while. I guess some of you see
that all the time, but it was way-cool!!! Even the Dolphins dug the
shape of the 35s5!


Robert B
35s5








Scotty November 2nd 05 01:09 AM

Dolphins!
 


--
"Swab Rob" wrote

And here on the LIS hot air is what it's all about.



So we've noticed.




Capt.Mooron November 2nd 05 01:28 AM

Dolphins!
 
Give me a head's up as to when you plan on passing by Jeff..... It would be
great to meet up with you. Sydney wouldn't be my first pick of haul-outs....
try the Bras'Or Lakes.

BTW - it's Cape Breton Island... and seriously take in the Highlands
National Park and Cabot Trail.

CM



"Jeff" wrote in message
A friend returned from wintering in Newfoundland (!) and got me thinking:
If we sailed around Nova Scotia one summer we could leave the boat around
Cape Brenton or maybe in Sydney for the winter. The next year we could
hop over to Newfoundland for a summer, and them return to Sydney. The
third summer perhaps go up the St. Lawrence and through Lake Champlain to
return. How's that sound for a plan?

Here's some of my friend's pics of Newfoundland:
http://liveaboard.sv-moonshadow.com/...004/index.html
and their sailing site:
http://liveaboard.sv-moonshadow.com/mnshdw.htm




Capt. Rob November 2nd 05 01:29 AM

Dolphins!
 
And you call 4 knots in an 8 knots breeze fast? I can probably do
that!


No, you can't. And you did not consider sea state.
When will make even one post without exposing how little you know?
If you knew boats, you'd know the difference between Bendy-Toys and the
First series racer/cruisers which are quite different. The Oceanus
series are much like the Catalinas and Hunters, though they're fine for
some folks. On the other hand there's a 51 at my club that was sailed
half way around the world. I guess you just don't meet the kind of
sailors I do anymore than you sail real sailboats, Jeff.
Sorry, you don't like my boat.

RB
35s5


Capt.Mooron November 2nd 05 01:30 AM

Dolphins!
 
Yeah on the LIS a light air boat may do the trick... but up here in Nova
Scotia... you'd be on your ear all the time.

CM

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
And here on the LIS light air is what it's all about. We sailed the
35s5 in less than 8 knots and made better than 4. Owners of the 35s5
love the light air ability and just about all aspects of it's
performance. Your boat might hit some big numbers off the wind, but
it's still a sea-truck for old folks. Most people who actually like to
sail wouldn't think of owning one anymore than they'd own a trawler.

RB
35s5...a better boat than yours




Capt. Rob November 2nd 05 01:36 AM

Dolphins!
 
Rather impressive given that fewer than 100 were
built. They don't stay in one corner of a pond where there's no
wind.


Why are you impressed by this? Some of the best sailors only race
locally. Who cares if they don't sail far? Now that I have a boat you
all envy all you can do is **** and moan about how I'll use it. If I
take a long trip aboard her you'll **** and moan about sail trim. It's
all rather sad. Face facts. You've all been eclipsed. After this boat
we're buying a liveaboard and we'll say goodbye to your weekend warrior
life styles. And we'll have done it many years before you!
You'll live out your lives with part time dreams...and that's truly
sad. The bitterness and frustration in your posts makes all so very
clear. Only Ozzy and Mooron seem to have a grasp.
Jeff, you're oh, such a tool! And you don't even know it!

Robert B
35s5...a better boat than yours!


Bob Crantz November 2nd 05 01:48 AM

Dolphins!
 
Is it better to put in or pull out in Dildo?


"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:CCU9f.72329$y_1.8480@edtnps89...
Give me a head's up as to when you plan on passing by Jeff..... It would

be
great to meet up with you. Sydney wouldn't be my first pick of

haul-outs....
try the Bras'Or Lakes.

BTW - it's Cape Breton Island... and seriously take in the Highlands
National Park and Cabot Trail.

CM



"Jeff" wrote in message
A friend returned from wintering in Newfoundland (!) and got me

thinking:
If we sailed around Nova Scotia one summer we could leave the boat

around
Cape Brenton or maybe in Sydney for the winter. The next year we could
hop over to Newfoundland for a summer, and them return to Sydney. The
third summer perhaps go up the St. Lawrence and through Lake Champlain

to
return. How's that sound for a plan?

Here's some of my friend's pics of Newfoundland:
http://liveaboard.sv-moonshadow.com/...004/index.html
and their sailing site:
http://liveaboard.sv-moonshadow.com/mnshdw.htm






Capt.Mooron November 2nd 05 02:24 AM

Dolphins!
 
Dildo is in Newfoundland .... I don't know much about that province. Only
been there twice.

CM

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
ink.net...
Is it better to put in or pull out in Dildo?


"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:CCU9f.72329$y_1.8480@edtnps89...
Give me a head's up as to when you plan on passing by Jeff..... It would

be
great to meet up with you. Sydney wouldn't be my first pick of

haul-outs....
try the Bras'Or Lakes.

BTW - it's Cape Breton Island... and seriously take in the Highlands
National Park and Cabot Trail.

CM



"Jeff" wrote in message
A friend returned from wintering in Newfoundland (!) and got me

thinking:
If we sailed around Nova Scotia one summer we could leave the boat

around
Cape Brenton or maybe in Sydney for the winter. The next year we could
hop over to Newfoundland for a summer, and them return to Sydney. The
third summer perhaps go up the St. Lawrence and through Lake Champlain

to
return. How's that sound for a plan?

Here's some of my friend's pics of Newfoundland:
http://liveaboard.sv-moonshadow.com/...004/index.html
and their sailing site:
http://liveaboard.sv-moonshadow.com/mnshdw.htm








Scotty November 2nd 05 02:37 AM

Dolphins!
 


--
"Swab Rob" wrote


Now that I have a boat you all envy



no you don't. LIAR.

SBV



DSK November 2nd 05 03:08 AM

Dolphins!
 
Jeff wrote:
And you call 4 knots in an 8 knots breeze fast? I can probably do
that!


The Hunter 19 could, and did many times.

For that matter, we've sailed a Whitby 42 with in-mast furling on both
main & mizzen got up to 3+ in a 7 ~ 8 knot wind, although it took a lot
of coaxing.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Jeff November 2nd 05 03:17 AM

Dolphins!
 
Capt. Rob wrote:
And you call 4 knots in an 8 knots breeze fast? I can probably do
that!


No, you can't. And you did not consider sea state.


I confess I never accurately measured our performance in 8 knots - if
we're doing under 5 knots we're likely to fire up the engine.
However, I recall a trip to Marblehead in 10 to 12 knots of wind,
where we did 5 to 6 knots, somewhat faster than I expected. What made
it memorable is that we passed a Catalina 42 to leeward - close enough
to have a conversation as we edged by.


When will make even one post without exposing how little you know?
If you knew boats, you'd know the difference between Bendy-Toys and the
First series racer/cruisers which are quite different. The Oceanus
series are much like the Catalinas and Hunters, though they're fine for
some folks. On the other hand there's a 51 at my club that was sailed
half way around the world. I guess you just don't meet the kind of
sailors I do anymore than you sail real sailboats, Jeff.
Sorry, you don't like my boat.


So, are you claiming you're the only jackass who owns a bendy-toy?

Capt. Rob November 2nd 05 10:01 AM

Dolphins!
 
if
we're doing under 5 knots we're likely to fire up the engine.


Nuff said. Jeff, you're in another world, basically a powerboating one.
I can't believe anyone would post such a thing, especially here.

RB
35s5



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