Capt. Rob wrote:
Why do you think my boat is faster than yours in a breeze, at all
points of sail?


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! LOL!!!!
Let us know when you get a real sailboat!


Why do you have trouble believing that my boat is much faster than
yours? It is, after all, 3000 pounds lighter and has about the same
sail area. In 20 knots I can go upwind at over 8 knots, at 45 degrees
to the true wind. Footing off a bit and she'll do 10 knots. The
racing version of my boat rates 51, and the standard rig of the
smaller version rates 105.

Your boat is a clumsy toy by comparison. Live with it.

It is, after all, 3000 pounds lighter and has about the same
sail area. In 20 knots I can go upwind at over 8 knots, at 45 degrees
to the true wind. Footing off a bit and she'll do 10 knots

Best see my polars. Your boat's upwind is my boats reach!
Live with it and let us know when you get a proper sailboat instead of
a barge.

RB
35s5-a better boat than yours.

Capt. Rob wrote:
It is, after all, 3000 pounds lighter and has about the same
sail area. In 20 knots I can go upwind at over 8 knots, at 45 degrees
to the true wind. Footing off a bit and she'll do 10 knots

Best see my polars. Your boat's upwind is my boats reach!
Live with it and let us know when you get a proper sailboat instead of
a barge.

Are you claiming you can only reach at 8 knots? Why don't you show
those polars and we'll explain them to you.

I haven't seen the polar for the 35s5, but here it is for the 407,
certainly a faster boat by farr. You'll note that upwind it doesn't
see 8 knots until its at 55 true. Overall, it would almost keep up
with my boat, but only if they flew the chute. The light air
performance, I admit, is impressive.

http://www.1stsailing.com/Boats/BoaI...hnicalData.jpg

Overall, it would almost keep up
with my boat, but only if they flew the chute. The light air
performance, I admit, is impressive.


And here on the LIS light air is what it's all about. We sailed the
35s5 in less than 8 knots and made better than 4. Owners of the 35s5
love the light air ability and just about all aspects of it's
performance. Your boat might hit some big numbers off the wind, but
it's still a sea-truck for old folks. Most people who actually like to
sail wouldn't think of owning one anymore than they'd own a trawler.

RB
35s5...a better boat than yours

Capt. Rob wrote:
Overall, it would almost keep up
with my boat, but only if they flew the chute. The light air
performance, I admit, is impressive.


And here on the LIS light air is what it's all about. We sailed the
35s5 in less than 8 knots and made better than 4. Owners of the 35s5
love the light air ability and just about all aspects of it's
performance. Your boat might hit some big numbers off the wind, but
it's still a sea-truck for old folks. Most people who actually like to
sail wouldn't think of owning one anymore than they'd own a trawler.

Most of the owners of my sisterships do extensive cruising, up and
down the East Coast, the Bahamas, Bermuda, Caribbean, South America.
I've met more than half, and don't know any that haven't done at least
one extended cruise. Rather impressive given that fewer than 100 were
built. They don't stay in one corner of a pond where there's no wind.

Most people who own bendy-toys are terrified of going further from
their slip than the shore power cable will reach. They challenge
others to a race, but then claim they're "too busy" to actually travel
anywhere to race. They brag about having A/C but the boat is so
poorly ventilated that A/C is needed for survival. They claim the
head is large, but don't mention there isn't a shower.

And you call 4 knots in an 8 knots breeze fast? I can probably do
that! Now if you could do 6 or 7 knots in an 8 knot breeze, I'd be
impressed!








RB
35s5...a better boat than yours

And you call 4 knots in an 8 knots breeze fast? I can probably do
that!


No, you can't. And you did not consider sea state.
When will make even one post without exposing how little you know?
If you knew boats, you'd know the difference between Bendy-Toys and the
First series racer/cruisers which are quite different. The Oceanus
series are much like the Catalinas and Hunters, though they're fine for
some folks. On the other hand there's a 51 at my club that was sailed
half way around the world. I guess you just don't meet the kind of
sailors I do anymore than you sail real sailboats, Jeff.
Sorry, you don't like my boat.

RB
35s5

Capt. Rob wrote:
And you call 4 knots in an 8 knots breeze fast? I can probably do
that!


No, you can't. And you did not consider sea state.

I confess I never accurately measured our performance in 8 knots - if
we're doing under 5 knots we're likely to fire up the engine.
However, I recall a trip to Marblehead in 10 to 12 knots of wind,
where we did 5 to 6 knots, somewhat faster than I expected. What made
it memorable is that we passed a Catalina 42 to leeward - close enough
to have a conversation as we edged by.


When will make even one post without exposing how little you know?
If you knew boats, you'd know the difference between Bendy-Toys and the
First series racer/cruisers which are quite different. The Oceanus
series are much like the Catalinas and Hunters, though they're fine for
some folks. On the other hand there's a 51 at my club that was sailed
half way around the world. I guess you just don't meet the kind of
sailors I do anymore than you sail real sailboats, Jeff.
Sorry, you don't like my boat.

So, are you claiming you're the only jackass who owns a bendy-toy?

Rather impressive given that fewer than 100 were
built. They don't stay in one corner of a pond where there's no
wind.


Why are you impressed by this? Some of the best sailors only race
locally. Who cares if they don't sail far? Now that I have a boat you
all envy all you can do is **** and moan about how I'll use it. If I
take a long trip aboard her you'll **** and moan about sail trim. It's
all rather sad. Face facts. You've all been eclipsed. After this boat
we're buying a liveaboard and we'll say goodbye to your weekend warrior
life styles. And we'll have done it many years before you!
You'll live out your lives with part time dreams...and that's truly
sad. The bitterness and frustration in your posts makes all so very
clear. Only Ozzy and Mooron seem to have a grasp.
Jeff, you're oh, such a tool! And you don't even know it!

Robert B
35s5...a better boat than yours!

--
"Swab Rob" wrote


Now that I have a boat you all envy


no you don't. LIAR.

SBV

Jeff wrote:
And you call 4 knots in an 8 knots breeze fast? I can probably do
that!

The Hunter 19 could, and did many times.

For that matter, we've sailed a Whitby 42 with in-mast furling on both
main & mizzen got up to 3+ in a 7 ~ 8 knot wind, although it took a lot
of coaxing.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King