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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com...
| Why do you think my boat is faster than yours in a breeze, at all
| points of sail?
|
|
| BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! LOL!!!!
| Let us know when you get a real sailboat!
|
| RB
|

Too ignorant to answer a simple question?

Jeff might have one of those inherently dangerous catamarans that are more
stable upside down than rightside up but at least Jeff has been known to sail
his vessel hundreds of miles (and perhaps up to a thousand miles) from his home
port. This makes him at least twice as brave and many times more of a sailor
than you will ever be even in your wildest dreams.

You're too chicken to schlep your fat arse out of LICS (Long Island Cesspool
Sound). Therefore, when you criticize Jeff and his vessel you sound very
foolish. But, then again, you are a professed liberal and being a fool is the
very essence of liberalism so you get a Brownie point or two for consistency. . .

CN

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Capt. Rob wrote:
Why do you think my boat is faster than yours in a breeze, at all
points of sail?


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! LOL!!!!
Let us know when you get a real sailboat!


Why do you have trouble believing that my boat is much faster than
yours? It is, after all, 3000 pounds lighter and has about the same
sail area. In 20 knots I can go upwind at over 8 knots, at 45 degrees
to the true wind. Footing off a bit and she'll do 10 knots. The
racing version of my boat rates 51, and the standard rig of the
smaller version rates 105.

Your boat is a clumsy toy by comparison. Live with it.

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Capt. Neal® wrote:
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com...
| Why do you think my boat is faster than yours in a breeze, at all
| points of sail?
|
| BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! LOL!!!!
| Let us know when you get a real sailboat!

Too ignorant to answer a simple question?

Jeff might have one of those inherently dangerous catamarans that are more
stable upside down than rightside up but at least Jeff has been known to sail
his vessel hundreds of miles (and perhaps up to a thousand miles) from his home
port. This makes him at least twice as brave and many times more of a sailor
than you will ever be even in your wildest dreams.


Thank you for the kind words, Neal. As for flipping, you know, of
course, that there have been very, very few occurrences of that in
cruising cats. And interesting aspect is that it has never happened
under bare poles. The stability of a cat can give a false sense of
security, leading some people to stay over canvassed. For my boat,
which is a tad under rigged, the capsize point with full sail is 45
knots of wind.

And yes, we've been more than 1000 miles from home, from Boston south
to Key West, and north to Toronto and Bar Harbor. We've used the
boat less the last few years, but still got out for 6 weeks this year.
I figure we've slept on board for about 600 nights away from home.
And we don't seem to need A/C!

A friend returned from wintering in Newfoundland (!) and got me
thinking: If we sailed around Nova Scotia one summer we could leave
the boat around Cape Brenton or maybe in Sydney for the winter. The
next year we could hop over to Newfoundland for a summer, and them
return to Sydney. The third summer perhaps go up the St. Lawrence and
through Lake Champlain to return. How's that sound for a plan?

Here's some of my friend's pics of Newfoundland:
http://liveaboard.sv-moonshadow.com/...004/index.html
and their sailing site:
http://liveaboard.sv-moonshadow.com/mnshdw.htm

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It is, after all, 3000 pounds lighter and has about the same
sail area. In 20 knots I can go upwind at over 8 knots, at 45 degrees
to the true wind. Footing off a bit and she'll do 10 knots

Best see my polars. Your boat's upwind is my boats reach!
Live with it and let us know when you get a proper sailboat instead of
a barge.

RB
35s5-a better boat than yours.

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"Swab Rob" wrote ...
Tell us about what you see in the water around City Island.

Tell us about the "fresh air" and the "spray" in your face!

The air is pretty fresh where we sail! The LIS is actually a
pretty
clean body of water because of the flow exchange.

Flow exchange = when New Yawkers flush their toirlets.

SV

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Capt. Rob wrote:
It is, after all, 3000 pounds lighter and has about the same
sail area. In 20 knots I can go upwind at over 8 knots, at 45 degrees
to the true wind. Footing off a bit and she'll do 10 knots

Best see my polars. Your boat's upwind is my boats reach!
Live with it and let us know when you get a proper sailboat instead of
a barge.

Are you claiming you can only reach at 8 knots? Why don't you show
those polars and we'll explain them to you.

I haven't seen the polar for the 35s5, but here it is for the 407,
certainly a faster boat by farr. You'll note that upwind it doesn't
see 8 knots until its at 55 true. Overall, it would almost keep up
with my boat, but only if they flew the chute. The light air
performance, I admit, is impressive.

http://www.1stsailing.com/Boats/BoaI...hnicalData.jpg

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Overall, it would almost keep up
with my boat, but only if they flew the chute. The light air
performance, I admit, is impressive.


And here on the LIS light air is what it's all about. We sailed the
35s5 in less than 8 knots and made better than 4. Owners of the 35s5
love the light air ability and just about all aspects of it's
performance. Your boat might hit some big numbers off the wind, but
it's still a sea-truck for old folks. Most people who actually like to
sail wouldn't think of owning one anymore than they'd own a trawler.

RB
35s5...a better boat than yours

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Capt. Rob wrote:
Overall, it would almost keep up
with my boat, but only if they flew the chute. The light air
performance, I admit, is impressive.


And here on the LIS light air is what it's all about. We sailed the
35s5 in less than 8 knots and made better than 4. Owners of the 35s5
love the light air ability and just about all aspects of it's
performance. Your boat might hit some big numbers off the wind, but
it's still a sea-truck for old folks. Most people who actually like to
sail wouldn't think of owning one anymore than they'd own a trawler.

Most of the owners of my sisterships do extensive cruising, up and
down the East Coast, the Bahamas, Bermuda, Caribbean, South America.
I've met more than half, and don't know any that haven't done at least
one extended cruise. Rather impressive given that fewer than 100 were
built. They don't stay in one corner of a pond where there's no wind.

Most people who own bendy-toys are terrified of going further from
their slip than the shore power cable will reach. They challenge
others to a race, but then claim they're "too busy" to actually travel
anywhere to race. They brag about having A/C but the boat is so
poorly ventilated that A/C is needed for survival. They claim the
head is large, but don't mention there isn't a shower.

And you call 4 knots in an 8 knots breeze fast? I can probably do
that! Now if you could do 6 or 7 knots in an 8 knot breeze, I'd be
impressed!








RB
35s5...a better boat than yours

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Right you are Mooron.

However Boobsie complains about pollution, yet he chooses to live in the
worse of it.

Would you raise a child in such a place? It borders on child abuse.

His neighborhood in Queens is the worst for air pollution, it is at the
confluence of 5 major expressways.

Why does he stay?

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:nOQ9f.73070$S4.48813@edtnps84...
Frankly speaking..... I wouldn't sail in that water let alone swim in it.
It
always appears to be a turbid brownish green in all Bob's photos. I've
seen
sewage lagoons that looked cleaner. Not the type of water one wants
splashed
on bare epidermis.

What can you do..... It's Bobsprit's cruising grounds and it's not like he
has any choice in the matter. I can't blame Bob for minimizing his
exposure
by taking only short sails infrequently and remaining dock bound where
sanitary facilities and medical assistance are readily available. It's
either Long Island Sewage.... or the security of a Sailboat Condo at the
marina.

I'm certainly glad that the coast of Nova Scotia is still relatively
pristine and the water is a deep blue.

CM


"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
ink.net...
http://www.oag.state.ny.us/environme...on_rivers.html

Cook at 1400F!




"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
I forgot to mention that when test sailing the 35s5 last Tuesday a pod
of Dolphins swam with us for quite a while. I guess some of you see
that all the time, but it was way-cool!!! Even the Dolphins dug the
shape of the 35s5!


Robert B
35s5

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"Swab Rob" wrote

And here on the LIS hot air is what it's all about.


So we've noticed.