That makes me feel a lot safer. What were you taking the hammer
for, to
check for dry rot in the planking?

Sound the deck before using the meter. We the deck to be 100% dry with
a small one inch void only in the starboard side deck.

RB

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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That makes me feel a lot safer. What were you taking the hammer
for, to
check for dry rot in the planking?

Sound the deck before using the meter. We the deck to be 100% dry with
a small one inch void only in the starboard side deck.

So Bob... what type of sound are you looking for when applying a whack with
a 28oz waffle faced framing hammer to the gelcoat??

I've seen a surveyor use a rawhide mallet and a stethoscope before.....
sort of weird!

CM

So Bob... what type of sound are you looking for when applying a whack
with
a 28oz waffle faced framing hammer to the gelcoat??


Generally, when sounding a cored deck for water and voids I listen for
a sharp report. Dull sounds are reason for further inspection, but
before all of this you need to go below and note where hardware points
are, including fixtures. Different decks make different sounds of
course! If the boat has a liner, it should be removed if at all
posiblle. Even if you have little experience you can sound a deck. It's
pretty easy to hear the differences. Once you locate an area, the meter
(I use a GRP 33) can find possible wet core. Bulkheads and other
structural elements can also give you false leade..pretty easy to
figure out. If the meter can be used on the underside of the deck,
that's also a big help. Same goes for the hull.
I've worked with several surveyors and they all have their little
tricks, but it's not rocket science. Nothing beats experience. I do my
own pre-survey which is more extensive than what most people do. For
the 35s5 the surveyor found 3 things I missed...a bad fuel hose clamp,
a dying sanitation hose...and most serious of all, a poorly located
thru hull for the air conditioning that will have to be relocated.
Other than that she surveyed out like a new boat.

RB

Nothing beats experience. I do my
own pre-survey which is more extensive than what most people do..

LOL .................................................. ................

Nothing beats experience. I do my
own pre-survey which is more extensive than what most people do..


LOL .................................................. ................



It just kills poor Loco. I'm actually making money with boats and
working with yards and surveyors. Now I have a WAY nicer boat. And he's
sitting around waiting to daysail his Depress 30!!!

RB

It just kills poor Loco. I'm actually making money with boats and
working with yards and surveyors. .

Boob, outside of the Matrix your working in the marine business is
small potatos.

Boob, outside of the Matrix your working in the marine business is
small potatos.


But my potatos mean I don't pay any yard bills. I haven't had to paint
my boat or pay for any service in two years. Not bad for having fun!
Think I'll keep those potatos!

RB

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"Swab Rob" wrote
It just kills poor Loco. I'm actually making money with boats
and
working with yards and surveyors.

IIRC Loco is retired. But, hey, I'm sure he's jealous that you're
still working.

Scotty

It just kills poor Loco. I'm actually making money with boats
and
working with yards and surveyors.

IIRC Loco is retired. But, hey, I'm sure he's jealous that you're
still working.


Waiit a second!!!! LOCO IS RETIRED!!!!!!?????? And his retirement boat
is an ancient Express 30???!!!!!!
BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Oh...the...humanity!!!!!!!! Loco should just kill himself!!!!
BWAHAHAHAHA! Retired with an Express 30??? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Thanks, Scotty potty! That's PERRRRFECT!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Best
laugh of the day!

RB

Capt.Mooron wrote:
So Bob... what type of sound are you looking for when applying a whack with
a 28oz waffle faced framing hammer to the gelcoat??


He's looking for the sound of the seller and or broker clocking him
upside the head.


I've seen a surveyor use a rawhide mallet and a stethoscope before.....
sort of weird!


No stethoscope needed. A rawhide mallet makes sense.

I know one surveyor who has a little wooden judges gavel... that's a
classy touch. Most that I've seen use the handle of a screwdriver.

And as usual, Boobsy hasn't got a clue. Maybe he read this in a sailing
magazine, but the way to "sound" any lamination (not just cored) is tap
in a grid pattern, listening for changes in the sound which are not
accountable by structure. In other words, if you get a "pok... pok...
pok... thud" and there is a stringer or beam or some structural
difference, then it's OK. If not, then you do a tighter grid & try to
map out the problem.

It's not rocket science, and anybody trying it with a hammer is friggin
dunce who should not be allowed near a boat.

DSK