Capt.Mooron wrote:

Heh Bob.... were you "Packin'" on your last trip to Florida?

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I like that idea!
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Capt. Rob wrote:
I couldn't even get my hammer on the plane and they wanted me to take
out the moisture meter so they could see what it was!


That makes me feel a lot safer. What were you taking the hammer for, to
check for dry rot in the planking?

DSK

"DSK" wrote ...

That makes me feel a lot safer. What were you taking the hammer
for, to
check for dry rot in the planking?


To wake himself up and get out of this dream.

SBV

That makes me feel a lot safer. What were you taking the hammer
for, to
check for dry rot in the planking?

Sound the deck before using the meter. We the deck to be 100% dry with
a small one inch void only in the starboard side deck.

RB

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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That makes me feel a lot safer. What were you taking the hammer
for, to
check for dry rot in the planking?

Sound the deck before using the meter. We the deck to be 100% dry with
a small one inch void only in the starboard side deck.

So Bob... what type of sound are you looking for when applying a whack with
a 28oz waffle faced framing hammer to the gelcoat??

I've seen a surveyor use a rawhide mallet and a stethoscope before.....
sort of weird!

CM

So Bob... what type of sound are you looking for when applying a whack
with
a 28oz waffle faced framing hammer to the gelcoat??


Generally, when sounding a cored deck for water and voids I listen for
a sharp report. Dull sounds are reason for further inspection, but
before all of this you need to go below and note where hardware points
are, including fixtures. Different decks make different sounds of
course! If the boat has a liner, it should be removed if at all
posiblle. Even if you have little experience you can sound a deck. It's
pretty easy to hear the differences. Once you locate an area, the meter
(I use a GRP 33) can find possible wet core. Bulkheads and other
structural elements can also give you false leade..pretty easy to
figure out. If the meter can be used on the underside of the deck,
that's also a big help. Same goes for the hull.
I've worked with several surveyors and they all have their little
tricks, but it's not rocket science. Nothing beats experience. I do my
own pre-survey which is more extensive than what most people do. For
the 35s5 the surveyor found 3 things I missed...a bad fuel hose clamp,
a dying sanitation hose...and most serious of all, a poorly located
thru hull for the air conditioning that will have to be relocated.
Other than that she surveyed out like a new boat.

RB

Nothing beats experience. I do my
own pre-survey which is more extensive than what most people do..

LOL .................................................. ................

Nothing beats experience. I do my
own pre-survey which is more extensive than what most people do..


LOL .................................................. ................



It just kills poor Loco. I'm actually making money with boats and
working with yards and surveyors. Now I have a WAY nicer boat. And he's
sitting around waiting to daysail his Depress 30!!!

RB

Capt.Mooron wrote:
So Bob... what type of sound are you looking for when applying a whack with
a 28oz waffle faced framing hammer to the gelcoat??


He's looking for the sound of the seller and or broker clocking him
upside the head.


I've seen a surveyor use a rawhide mallet and a stethoscope before.....
sort of weird!


No stethoscope needed. A rawhide mallet makes sense.

I know one surveyor who has a little wooden judges gavel... that's a
classy touch. Most that I've seen use the handle of a screwdriver.

And as usual, Boobsy hasn't got a clue. Maybe he read this in a sailing
magazine, but the way to "sound" any lamination (not just cored) is tap
in a grid pattern, listening for changes in the sound which are not
accountable by structure. In other words, if you get a "pok... pok...
pok... thud" and there is a stringer or beam or some structural
difference, then it's OK. If not, then you do a tighter grid & try to
map out the problem.

It's not rocket science, and anybody trying it with a hammer is friggin
dunce who should not be allowed near a boat.

DSK

It's not rocket science, and anybody trying it with a hammer is friggin

dunce who should not be allowed near a boat.


You have to wonder if Doug even knows what a hammer looks like. Hammers
used by surveyors are tiny. Some use little wood hammers, mallets and
so on...all HAMMERS.
Doug, you're an idiot. I actually work with surveyors. You own a
trawler.

But let's take it a bit further to PROVE how dumb and full of it Doug
is!

Hammer: 1 a : a hand tool consisting of a solid head set crosswise on a
handle and used for pounding.

Gosh...do surveyors use hammers or is that Doug's head that's
solid!!!???

Good job, Doug! You're so eager to attack that you've exposed yourself
again.

RB

"Swab Rob" wrote
You have to wonder if Doug even knows what a hammer looks like.
Hammers
used by surveyors are tiny. Some use little wood hammers,
mallets and
so on...all HAMMERS.


But you wrote:


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"Swab Rob" wrote
I couldn't even get my ball peen hammer on the plane
and they wanted me to take
out the moisture meter so they could see what it was!

RB