"JG" wrote in message ...
Thom, really you need to give it a rest. Neal and others have been bragging
for a long time about how they've "reported me." They are liars on most
subjects, bigots for sure, and responding to them just gives them fuel.

I know you're not into kill filing but it really works. Basically, it
removes the temptation to reply to their stupid, hate-filled crapola, it
completely takes the wind out of their sails because they get no energy from
it, and it totally infuriates them at the same time. Judging from the
subject lines and the copied posts, Neal is having a fit that I don't
respond. I don't usually quote Jesus, but when he said "turn the other
cheek," he was right on. (I'm sure this will generate the usual derogatory
comments, but the good news is that I won't see them!)

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Odd that Jonathan writes multiple abuse complaints about people
he kill files . . .

Maybe he's one of those remote viewers we hear from on Art Bell's show.

CN

"JG" wrote in message
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Check it out.. I'm betting this guy will not try this again. Looks like
everyone got into the act. This was one lucky dude... should have known
better than to try and sail in that spot.

http://www.sfsurvey.com/photos/sailH...ges/image1.htm

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Amazing pics. Have to feel sorry for this guy, making a mistake like that
and having it recorded for posterity. Pity the good samaritan surfers sank
the boat.

John Cairns

From what it looked like to me, the boat was pooped, and sank on it's own or
the second person on the boat did when he climbed back on... He was wearing
foulies, and clearly was not a surfer.

I'm hoping to get more info, since I think a friend of mine knows the boat
owner.

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"John Cairns" wrote in message
. com...

"JG" wrote in message
...
Check it out.. I'm betting this guy will not try this again. Looks like
everyone got into the act. This was one lucky dude... should have known
better than to try and sail in that spot.

http://www.sfsurvey.com/photos/sailH...ges/image1.htm

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Amazing pics. Have to feel sorry for this guy, making a mistake like that
and having it recorded for posterity. Pity the good samaritan surfers sank
the boat.

John Cairns

Why weren't danger buoys in the channel?


"JG" wrote in message
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From what it looked like to me, the boat was pooped, and sank on it's own
or
the second person on the boat did when he climbed back on... He was
wearing
foulies, and clearly was not a surfer.

I'm hoping to get more info, since I think a friend of mine knows the boat
owner.

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www.sailnow.com

"John Cairns" wrote in message
. com...

"JG" wrote in message
...
Check it out.. I'm betting this guy will not try this again. Looks like
everyone got into the act. This was one lucky dude... should have known
better than to try and sail in that spot.

http://www.sfsurvey.com/photos/sailH...ges/image1.htm

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


Amazing pics. Have to feel sorry for this guy, making a mistake like
that
and having it recorded for posterity. Pity the good samaritan surfers
sank
the boat.

John Cairns

"Why weren't danger buoys in the channel? "

there isnt enough danger bouy's in the world, to cover
all the potential dangerous sailing spots along the
california coast........

This is true. However, it's pretty obvious that this is nasty spot,
especially in the wrong conditions. I'm calling it big time pilot error
until I hear the full story.

Perhaps I'll find out first hand... going sailing today and tomorrow!!

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"~^ beancounter ~^" wrote in message
ups.com...
"Why weren't danger buoys in the channel? "

there isnt enough danger bouy's in the world, to cover
all the potential dangerous sailing spots along the
california coast........

On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:02:18 -0700, "JG" jganz wrote:
From what it looked like to me, the boat was pooped, and sank on it's own or
the second person on the boat did when he climbed back on...

Might there have been a second breaking wave that wasn't captured on
film? The reason I ask, images 22 thru 27 show the boat dismasted but
riding high in the water (especially 26 &27). Transom cutout appears
to be high enough that it shouldn't be shipping water aboard.
Granted, people climbing aboard through it might be enough to put it
under. A second wave seems a likely possibility too though.

I'm hoping to get more info, since I think a friend of mine knows the boat
owner.

Thanks, see what you can find out. The decision to be there in the
first place makes no sense at all. And then sinking the boat by
shoving the transom cutout under makes it a doubly dumb scenario...
Were they drunk? On drugs? Stolen boat (joyride)? Insurance fraud?
..... enquiring minds want to know.
Thanks,

Rick

they need to send the guys from discovery channel's
myth busters....to fill up the boat w/ping pong balls...
and re float......right?

I'm sure it's possible there was a second wave. That area can get pretty
rough pretty fast. Turns out it's a bit deeper than I thought... 27 just
outside then over 100 inside. Rocks on one side the stanchion on the other.

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wrote in message
news
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:02:18 -0700, "JG" jganz wrote:
From what it looked like to me, the boat was pooped, and sank on it's own
or
the second person on the boat did when he climbed back on...

Might there have been a second breaking wave that wasn't captured on
film? The reason I ask, images 22 thru 27 show the boat dismasted but
riding high in the water (especially 26 &27). Transom cutout appears
to be high enough that it shouldn't be shipping water aboard.
Granted, people climbing aboard through it might be enough to put it
under. A second wave seems a likely possibility too though.

I'm hoping to get more info, since I think a friend of mine knows the boat
owner.

Thanks, see what you can find out. The decision to be there in the
first place makes no sense at all. And then sinking the boat by
shoving the transom cutout under makes it a doubly dumb scenario...
Were they drunk? On drugs? Stolen boat (joyride)? Insurance fraud?
.... enquiring minds want to know.
Thanks,

Rick

The little boat was probably his home. Now that he is homeless, he can get
monthly checks from the loser liberal gov't in San Francisco.

Lonny B
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"Rock stars! Is there anything they don't know?" Homer Simpson


"JG" wrote in message
...
Check it out.. I'm betting this guy will not try this again. Looks like
everyone got into the act. This was one lucky dude... should have known
better than to try and sail in that spot.

http://www.sfsurvey.com/photos/sailH...ges/image1.htm

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www.sailnow.com