Yes he did. He's admitted it for years.

Infact he claims he was born that way.

Joe
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A Boat to envy!

Shhhhh.....

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"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
What lies?

You said that Jon didn't serve his country by doing military service.


That sounds like a lie to me.


Regards


Donal
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Thom Stewart wrote:
Be Careful Joe;

Jon and Doug are both in the process of sloping and slanting YOUR post
about the TRAITOR and making you the DEFENDENT!


That's right Thom, America is all about hatred & deciding that people
are guilty with no proof, much less a trial; maybe when Canada sends
back those filthy traitors you & Joe can torture them.

DSK

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 22:19:08 -0500, DSK wrote
this crap:

Thom Stewart wrote:
Be Careful Joe;

Jon and Doug are both in the process of sloping and slanting YOUR post
about the TRAITOR and making you the DEFENDENT!


That's right Thom, America is all about hatred & deciding that people
are guilty with no proof, much less a trial; maybe when Canada sends
back those filthy traitors you & Joe can torture them.

DSK


DSK is a lying cocksucker, and a coward.

DSK has posted blatent lies on this newsgroup, and when he is proven
to be a liar, he doesn't have the balls to defend himself.






This post is 100% free of steroids

Doug,

Do you consider D. Arnold a traitor? He severed with distinction before
going against his Army Oath.

Ole Thom




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsPage

Thom Stewart wrote:
Doug,

Do you consider D. Arnold a traitor? He severed with distinction before
going against his Army Oath.


Do you mean Benedict Arnold?

Heck yes he is a traitor. Among other things, he was commissioned as a
general officer by the British after attempting to hand over West Point
(an important strategic fort at the time). You're right, before that he
served with great distinction... some would say he was the best American
general of the Revolutionary War.

There is a big difference between treason and desertion. Benedict Arnold
did not merely desert his post. He actively warred against the United
Stated.

Yet another point:
Military personnel fleeing to Canada from Stateside posts aren't even
deserters. They're AWOL. To be a deserter, you have to flee your post in
a war zone.

DSK

DSK wrote:


Yet another point:
Military personnel fleeing to Canada from Stateside posts aren't even

deserters. They're AWOL. To be a deserter, you have to flee your post
in
a war zone.

DSK

Desertion is defining as leaving with "intent to remain away
permenantly"
(Article 85 UCMJ.) Since the intent is often difficult to prove, most
cases
are simply charged as Unauthorized Absence (Article 86 UCMJ).
Virtually all
Article 86 cases serious enough for court martial will go to a Special
Court
Martial where the maximum penalty is Confinement for 6 months,
reduction to pay
grade E-1, forfeiture of pay, and a Bad Conduct Discharge.


If Charged with Desertion, the case is usually heard at a General Court
Martial, where the Maximum punishment for Article 85 (IIRC) is 5 years
confinement and a Dishonorable Discharge.

Joe

Excuse me Doug,

That should have been a B instead of a D.
Glad you knew who I meant.

OT

Every colonist fighting the British was guilty of treason in that war..
George Washington would likely have been hanged had he been captured.

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Thom Stewart wrote:
Doug,

Do you consider D. Arnold a traitor? He severed with distinction before
going against his Army Oath.


Do you mean Benedict Arnold?

Heck yes he is a traitor. Among other things, he was commissioned as a
general officer by the British after attempting to hand over West Point
(an important strategic fort at the time). You're right, before that he
served with great distinction... some would say he was the best American
general of the Revolutionary War.

There is a big difference between treason and desertion. Benedict Arnold
did not merely desert his post. He actively warred against the United
Stated.

Yet another point:
Military personnel fleeing to Canada from Stateside posts aren't even
deserters. They're AWOL. To be a deserter, you have to flee your post in
a war zone.

DSK

Steve Thomas wrote:
Every colonist fighting the British was guilty of treason in that war..
George Washington would likely have been hanged had he been captured.


The point of what Thom was asking (if I understood correctly) "was
Benedict Arnold guilty of treason against the United States." What he
did was far above (or below) & beyond desertion.

DSK