I was there when the incident happened along with several other members of
the Citizen's Auxiliary Police. As one of the first on the scene, I can say
with great authority, you didn't miss the mark on this one Capt. Neal.

Jay Santos


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
I certainly would not refer to idiots who would run aground like
those jerks did, 'sailors'. Sails were furled said the article.

They were motoring - just another motorboat - take it to
rec.boats please.

CN

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
"Alan Gomes" wrote in news:a8adncHccqo9I6LfRVn-
:

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/news/032...p_aground.html

I don't suppose THESE sailors made any comments about shooting at
jetskiiers with guns and missles.....like I've seen in the past on these
newsgroups.....(c;

Hypothermia might have been a problem without those "damned jetskiiers"
so
quickly on the scene.....

Lew Hodgett wrote:
Jim wrote:

I can't understand why the anchors are still aboard and the dinghy is
in the davits. First thing I would have done was to run all the
anchors I could find as far out as possible and try to horse the thing
head to the swell and wind.


The seas were such that the dinghy would probably have swamped before
you got 100 ft out.

It is a beautiful boat, but not worth a human life.

Lew
Lew;
It wasn't that rough that day. The dinghy is a 13 foot Avon rib with a
15/20 horse outboard.

I have the same dinghy, with a 25.

That boat will handle a lot more than anything that they could have
found that day.

Has anyone heard if the attempt to re-float/tow the "Irving Johnson" have
succeeded??

I haven't seen anything in the last 24 hrs on the national news.

The longer she languishes there, the less hope there is for a successful
attempt.

Thanks.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Red Cloud=A9 wrote:



For the latest information:
http://www.lamitopsail.org/index.asp
=20
rusty

Thanks Bobspirt!

Joe
MSV RedCloud
The boat to envy

This mornings attempt, unsuccessful

Red Cloud© wrote:

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:24:03 GMT, Red Cloud© wrote:


On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 06:58:08 -0800, "Steve" wrote:


Has anyone heard if the attempt to re-float/tow the "Irving Johnson" have
succeeded??

I haven't seen anything in the last 24 hrs on the national news.

The longer she languishes there, the less hope there is for a successful
attempt.

Thanks.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



For the latest information:
http://www.lamitopsail.org/index.asp

rusty


The Irving Johnson has been successfully towed to deeper water and appears to be
intact.

rusty redcloud

The people who built those little ships really did an amazing job. Took
quite a pounding. Every morning I expected the worst.

And Jim Gladson deserved a lot of credit for his management style, from
what I saw.

I guess we all can learn from this to have a plan for such an emergency.

I still wonder why those anchors were still in their chocks.

There are only three types of sailors in the world, those who have been
aground, those who dont sail very often and those who lie

Don White wrote:
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

I certainly would not refer to idiots who would run aground like
those jerks did, 'sailors'. Sails were furled said the article.

They were motoring - just another motorboat - take it to
rec.boats please.

CN


Oh boy! this *was* a nice peaceful newsgroup......... a respite from the
rabble at wrecked boats.


Complain to the the person who originally cross-posted.

Jim wrote:


The people who built those little ships really did an amazing job. Took
quite a pounding. Every morning I expected the worst.

And Jim Gladson deserved a lot of credit for his management style, from
what I saw.

I guess we all can learn from this to have a plan for such an emergency.

I still wonder why those anchors were still in their chocks.

How much do they weigh? What is the weight of the chain?
What would be the requirements for the equipment to haul the anchors and
chain to an area that could do any good? What equipment was available to
do so? What amount of pull could the Irving Johnson apply to that gear,
once it was set?

otn

You are probably right, that group makes few mistakes.

The anchors are huge, but their dinghy is a good one, with a substantial
outboard. The dinghy was still in the davits until the last day on the
beach.

What do you do?


otnmbrd wrote:
Jim wrote:



The people who built those little ships really did an amazing job.
Took quite a pounding. Every morning I expected the worst.

And Jim Gladson deserved a lot of credit for his management style,
from what I saw.

I guess we all can learn from this to have a plan for such an emergency.

I still wonder why those anchors were still in their chocks.


How much do they weigh? What is the weight of the chain?
What would be the requirements for the equipment to haul the anchors and
chain to an area that could do any good? What equipment was available to
do so? What amount of pull could the Irving Johnson apply to that gear,
once it was set?

otn