.... the newer Tartans are not
Gran Prix boats but they're certainly not slow. What year models were
you looking at?



Donal wrote:
IIRC, I looked at a Tartan about 4 years ago.

OK that should have been one of the newer series.

... The model that I looked at
had a clever galley design. There was a pull-up section in the galley which
provided extra work surface. The quality seemed to be very good, but I
formed the opinion that she would never exceed hull speed.


Shucks any boat can exceed hull speed. The tricky part is, under what
conditions? Anyway the newer Tartans (3400, 3700, 4100, etc etc) are all
in the range of racer-cruisers, performance wise. D/Ls around ~200 and
SA/Ds around ~20, not slugs for sure.


BTW have you seen and/or sailed a Beneteau First Class 12? A friend of
mine is considering buying one.


I thought that I had already replied to this. However I can't see anything
in my newsreader.

I don't know anything about the "12". I tried the Beneteau web site, but I
couldn't find it. I also tried to Google with "Beneteau First 12" and
couldn't find it that way either. Beneteau seem to be completely clueless
about web design.


A lot businesses in the same boat. Anyway I dunno how serious my friend
is, it seems likely they'll go for a boat with a lot more cabin.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

"DSK" blathered thusly:

Shucks any boat can exceed hull speed. The tricky part is, under what
conditions? Anyway the newer Tartans (3400, 3700, 4100, etc etc) are all
in the range of racer-cruisers, performance wise. D/Ls around ~200 and
SA/Ds around ~20, not slugs for sure.


Put a big enough diesel in it and, yes, it can. That's why you 'sail' your
motorboat, isn't it?

CN

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message

roflmao I win!

Actually you lose. Big time.

Max

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message

"Flying Tadpole" wrote:
A response like that to a situation like that is wholly contemptible.
Enjoy the floor you've chosen to roll on.

I didn't see you come to the defense of my sons, when out of the blue,
katy started bashing them.

First, Katy never bashed your sons--only your parenting.

Second, is such a scurrilous attack, implying malicious and felonious intent
on the part of Katy and her grandchild's parents, a viable response to what
you perceived her to be doing?

You have a very dark and vicious side, woman.

Max

In article qHwXd.5739$Ru.1933@okepread06,
Lady Pilot wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote:
Well, gee... I guess people like Neal, Scotty, Hovath, Lonny
(recently), and Mooron (to name just a few) calling me vile things for
years, lying about me, publishing personal information about me, and
calling me late at night doesn't count.

Katy's a hypocrite, pure and simple. I could point out several instances,
but I'm not going to waste my time to google them all.

LP



Yeah, right. Compared to the likes of you, she's a saint... and I'm
still ****ed off that she could doubt me when I told you were a loser.
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article SZBXd.12703$i6.10719@edtnps90,
Capt. Mooron wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Well, gee... I guess people like Neal, Scotty, Hovath, Lonny
(recently), and Mooron (to name just a few) calling me vile things for
years, lying about me, publishing personal information about me, and
calling me late at night doesn't count.

Bwahahahahahahaa.... Gaynz is such a HOMO!

CM



Hahaha... it's CHICKEN MAN. THE WIMP FROM THE NORTH.
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Well, gee... I guess people like Neal, Scotty, Hovath, Lonny
(recently), and Mooron

lying about me,

Stop fantasizing you little homo!






calling me late at night doesn't count.


You wish!

In article ,
Scott Vernon wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Well, gee... I guess people like Neal, Scotty, Hovath, Lonny
(recently), and Mooron

lying about me,

I'm a fat homo.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."