On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:54:30 +1100, OzOne wrote this crap:


Should be a fun evening.
We're off to the Global Challenge prize giving dinner at Sydneys Star
City Casino this evening.


What job do you have? waiter? bartender? coat-check girl?





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

OzOne wrote:
Should be a fun evening.
We're off to the Global Challenge prize giving dinner at Sydneys Star
City Casino this evening.

It will be interesting chatting with the amateurs who have taken the
challenge and the leggers who are preparing to sail the
Sydney/CapeTown leg starting Sunday.


That does sound like an interesting dinner. Is Chay Blythe going to be
there himself? Does the Global Challenge group solicit donations to keep
the project going or do the paying passengers bring in enough to keep it
floating? I was pretty surprised they raised enough money to build those
boats and managed to keep it going this long. It's an outstanding ocean
racing event and seems to be under the radar of most of the sailing press.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

OzOne wrote:
Yep, Chay was there, big as ever!
He presented the trophy to the winners of the NZ/Syd leg.

Had a scotch with him and chatted about the Challenge.

OK, now I'm officially envious. That sounds very cool.

Sponsors for each boat pretty much cover costs and paying crew cover
theirs and the cost of paid crew.
Of course Challenge get their cut.
5-8000 English pound for each leg and crew of 18 on each yacht, so
they do alright.


I used to make fun of people who would pay to go on an "adventure" like
that, such as those guided tours of Mt Everest... but it really is a
good idea for many people. They might have a great desire for the
experience, but not the skills or the time to acquire the skills (since
they've been too busy making money!). So it supports the boats (and
they're cool boats even if they are steel) and supports the skippers
(who need a job too, after all) who have gained the skills.

It just kind of surprised me that the whole thing could be turned into a
profitable enterprise. "Let's get people to pay enormous sums to be
seasick & miserable & stay up on night watches while bashing their way
around the world the wrong way." Yep, sounds like a great business plan!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Steel is the way to go Doug. If you want a cool boat that will finish
what it starts the best material is steel.

I suspect my vessel was custim built for the Whitbread race.

Joe
Oh the Power of Steel

Joe wrote:
I suspect my vessel was custim built for the Whitbread race.


You're high on cheap drugs

DSK

Doug,

Your usually above such cheap BB like responses.

I've raced RedCloud agains another English Ketch that looks very much
like RedCloud. It was built for the Whitbread. The owner sailed
redcloud and after I explained the original layout below he suspected
RedCloud was a Whitbred built boat as well.

So...what makes you reply to my post in such a flaming manner? What
makes you think RedCloud could not contend?

Joe

Joe wrote:
Your usually above such cheap BB like responses.


Thank you for the compliment

I've raced RedCloud agains another English Ketch that looks very much
like RedCloud. It was built for the Whitbread. The owner sailed
redcloud and after I explained the original layout below he suspected
RedCloud was a Whitbred built boat as well.


Do you mean "built for the Whitbread Round-the-World race" or "built in
Whitbread" (which is a place)?

So...what makes you reply to my post in such a flaming manner? What
makes you think RedCloud could not contend?


Because hard chine pilothouse ketches with tabernacle masts are not
built for racing. And it's not big enough, a Whitbread race boat would
be 60'+.

What's your PHRF rating again?

DSK

The pilot house roof was added by me. The boat is quite sporty with it
removed. And that only involves removing 8 1/2" SS bolts.

The tabernacle system is no diffrent than any other deck mounted rig.
And most likely stronger than a keel mounted mast.

And yes I did mean the around the world race.

I have no ideal what my PHRF rating is.

Joe

Joe wrote:
The pilot house roof was added by me. The boat is quite sporty with it
removed. And that only involves removing 8 1/2" SS bolts.


OK, I didn't know that. It's still got an aft cabin, right? An excellent
& popular feature for custom race boats

The tabernacle system is no diffrent than any other deck mounted rig.
And most likely stronger than a keel mounted mast.


That may be the case, but boats custom built for racing don't have
tabernacle masts. Ease of lowering the mast is not even the tiniest
consideration for racing.

And yes I did mean the around the world race.


Maybe I shouldn't have just said "You're high on cheap drugs" with no
further explanation... wait a minute, I'm giving you further explanation
now...

The probability of your boat having been designed & built for the
Whitbread race is about the same as the probability of a green & purple
polka-dotted monkey flying out of my nose, playing 'Stairway To Heaven'
on a banjo. Is that better than "You're high on cheap drugs"?

I have no ideal what my PHRF rating is.


I though you raced in the Harvest Moon regatta... isn't that under PHRF?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Big deal. A bunch of pompous rich fools trying to buy their
way around the world because they are too timid to attempt
doing it on their own.

Wussies!

CN


OzOne wrote in message ...

Should be a fun evening.
We're off to the Global Challenge prize giving dinner at Sydneys Star
City Casino this evening.

It will be interesting chatting with the amateurs who have taken the
challenge and the leggers who are preparing to sail the
Sydney/CapeTown leg starting Sunday.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.