Do you really want that?

"Scout" wrote in message
...
Scout = Captain Neal??

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Scout,
You are the only poster here who is known to be civil or who has earned
respect by most posters on the ng. See where this is going?


"Scout" wrote in message
...
"Gilligan" wrote
Well, what if it be my vice,
My pleasure to displease--to love men hate me!

So sad ~ these words!
Preemptive scorn is scorn of self and fear of self-worthlessness!
Why does Captain Neal doubt himself so?

He is not Don
Quixote afterall, he is the Cowardly Lion!
You can do better than that.

How so? The Cowardly Lion is one of the most complex characters in
literature!
William Jennings Bryan was a right-winged, opinionated, blustering
bully. He was smart and talented, but at best, history will remember him
as a tragic hero; the primary cause of his own failure.

He is an invention, a cathartic adventure for some other here whose
monogram
is a paper thin mask of civility.

Explain your use of "monogram". You forgot to read the introduction or
do
you really believe that civility walks hand in hand with "not mincing
words
to spare the thin skinned or ignorant"?

Simply this: CN is very likely a darker personna of some regular poster
here who, having earned the respect of the group, does not feel free to
expose his troglodytic tenets under that same name.
Does *Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde* ring a bell?

Scout

I'm black Irish, fortunately...I tan rather well....the temps that Taddie's
mentioning though don't tempt me...

"Scout" wrote in message
...
Taddy,
I'm sure Katy doesn't want to burn, but you know how difficult it is for
the Irish to tan.
Scout

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...
You _want_to be burnt????

katysails wrote:
Oh goody....can I do the torture part????

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...


Scout wrote:

you left out the part about "Don Quixote, gone wrong"

This particular personality is mean spirited, selfish, misogynistic,
racist, ostensibly mis-informed, over-reactive, defensive, insecure,
and worst of all, cowardly. He is nothing more than a blustering hot
wind. He is not Don Quixote afterall, he is the Cowardly Lion!

He is an invention, a cathartic adventure for some other here whose
monogram is a paper thin mask of civility.
Scout

Name them!! Name them!!
--
Salem Tadpole

-------------------------
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner
http://music.download.com/internetopera




--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner
http://music.download.com/internetopera
http://www.soundclick.com/flyingtadpolemusic.htm

GASP.....how could your mind come up with such a thought???

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...
Scout, sometimes living in a megalopolis can have strange effects on the
mind and understanding and behaviour. Being aware of this, there is much
those of us far from the madding crowd can indeed accept from you. But
please, for your own health and sanity, not to mention those young minds
for whom you are responsible, see your fantasy for what it truly is--Capt
Neal just CAN'T BE Bobsprit!

Scout wrote:
"Gilligan" wrote

Well, what if it be my vice,
My pleasure to displease--to love men hate me!


So sad ~ these words!
Preemptive scorn is scorn of self and fear of self-worthlessness!
Why does Captain Neal doubt himself so?


He is not Don
Quixote afterall, he is the Cowardly Lion!

You can do better than that.


How so? The Cowardly Lion is one of the most complex characters in
literature!
William Jennings Bryan was a right-winged, opinionated, blustering bully.
He was smart and talented, but at best, history will remember him as a
tragic hero; the primary cause of his own failure.


He is an invention, a cathartic adventure for some other here whose

monogram

is a paper thin mask of civility.


Explain your use of "monogram". You forgot to read the introduction or do
you really believe that civility walks hand in hand with "not mincing
words
to spare the thin skinned or ignorant"?


Simply this: CN is very likely a darker personna of some regular poster
here who, having earned the respect of the group, does not feel free to
expose his troglodytic tenets under that same name.
Does *Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde* ring a bell?

Scout

--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner
http://music.download.com/internetopera
http://www.soundclick.com/flyingtadpolemusic.htm

OIC

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scout" wrote in message
...
I'm just mentioning Jon, not just noticing!
Scout

"JG" wrote in message
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Bwahahahaaa... you've just noticed this? Neal does this with anyone who
disagrees with him on anything.

Get with it Scout.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scout" wrote in message
...
"Gilligan" wrote in message
k.net...

"Scout" wrote in message
...
"Gilligan" wrote
Well, what if it be my vice,
My pleasure to displease--to love men hate me!

So sad ~ these words!
Preemptive scorn is scorn of self and fear of self-worthlessness!
Why does Captain Neal doubt himself so?

Spark Notes (similar to Cliff's):

Summary - Act II, scene viii
Le Bret argues that Cyrano is ruining his chances of becoming a
successful
man or a famous poet. Cyrano says he will live according to his ideals
and
that he has no interest in making friends with unworthy men. Suddenly,
Christian enters.


Your interpretation is a bit different. Where does the difference come
from?

Just an observation. Have you noticed how people automatically condemn
things that challenge them rather than risking failure by accepting the
challenge? Students do this routinely, claiming things they haven't
mastered (read as: fear they cannot master), are stupid or unworthy.
Cyrano and Captain Neal both exhibit this behavior. In the case of the
latter, CN condemns me as unworthy because I have challenged his
political point of view. He doesn't appreciate my opinion regarding our
president's education reform initiatives, so he attacks everything from
my writing style to my manhood. Whether either is lacking is irrelevant
to the point of discussion. That, and only that, is my point in
challenging CN.
I've shared some of what I've experienced in America's public schools.
Let CN bring what he knows to the table. That is where this branch of
the discussion broke away.
Kurt Vonnegut said once that he wished to tell a story without using any
profanity. He said he had an important message to give, and he knew that
many people would not want to hear the message. He said he also knew
that if he used vulgarity of any sort, he would be giving those people
the justification they needed to turn away from what was important. I
haven't used any profanity either ~ so those who don't want to hear my
testimony will have to find or fabricate some other reason to turn a
deaf ear. I suppose a poorly focused paragraph works for CN.
Scout

Ditto here on my mother's side.
Made the lifeguarding job a whole lot easier : )
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message
...
I'm black Irish, fortunately...I tan rather well....the temps that
Taddie's mentioning though don't tempt me...

"Scout" wrote in message
...
Taddy,
I'm sure Katy doesn't want to burn, but you know how difficult it is for
the Irish to tan.
Scout

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...
You _want_to be burnt????

katysails wrote:
Oh goody....can I do the torture part????

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...


Scout wrote:

you left out the part about "Don Quixote, gone wrong"

This particular personality is mean spirited, selfish, misogynistic,
racist, ostensibly mis-informed, over-reactive, defensive, insecure,
and worst of all, cowardly. He is nothing more than a blustering hot
wind. He is not Don Quixote afterall, he is the Cowardly Lion!

He is an invention, a cathartic adventure for some other here whose
monogram is a paper thin mask of civility.
Scout

Name them!! Name them!!
--
Salem Tadpole

-------------------------
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner
http://music.download.com/internetopera




--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner
http://music.download.com/internetopera
http://www.soundclick.com/flyingtadpolemusic.htm

"She's a witch! ~ she turned me into a newt!
{ long pause } ~ I got better"

"katysails" wrote in message
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What a crucible we've become...and who will sit in judgment?

"Scout" wrote in message
...
Don't fret Katy, all who are innocent will sink like rocks, and their
good names will be forever cleansed!
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Taddy...he's getting out the thumb screws...RUN!!!!!!

"Scout" wrote in message
...
"Flying Tadpole" wrote
Scout wrote:
you left out the part about "Don Quixote, gone wrong"

This particular personality is mean spirited, selfish, misogynistic,
racist, ostensibly mis-informed, over-reactive, defensive, insecure,
and worst of all, cowardly. He is nothing more than a blustering hot
wind. He is not Don Quixote afterall, he is the Cowardly Lion!

He is an invention, a cathartic adventure for some other here whose
monogram is a paper thin mask of civility.
Scout

Name them!! Name them!!
Salem Tadpole

I THINK YOU KNOW!
Scout

I thought that's what you were intimating.

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Do you really want that?

"Scout" wrote in message
...
Scout = Captain Neal??

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Scout,
You are the only poster here who is known to be civil or who has earned
respect by most posters on the ng. See where this is going?


"Scout" wrote in message
...
"Gilligan" wrote
Well, what if it be my vice,
My pleasure to displease--to love men hate me!

So sad ~ these words!
Preemptive scorn is scorn of self and fear of self-worthlessness!
Why does Captain Neal doubt himself so?

He is not Don
Quixote afterall, he is the Cowardly Lion!
You can do better than that.

How so? The Cowardly Lion is one of the most complex characters in
literature!
William Jennings Bryan was a right-winged, opinionated, blustering
bully. He was smart and talented, but at best, history will remember
him as a tragic hero; the primary cause of his own failure.

He is an invention, a cathartic adventure for some other here whose
monogram
is a paper thin mask of civility.

Explain your use of "monogram". You forgot to read the introduction or
do
you really believe that civility walks hand in hand with "not mincing
words
to spare the thin skinned or ignorant"?

Simply this: CN is very likely a darker personna of some regular poster
here who, having earned the respect of the group, does not feel free to
expose his troglodytic tenets under that same name.
Does *Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde* ring a bell?

Scout

Doug,
how did you come to have such an extensive background in literature?
Scout

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
But aren't you mixing your metaphorical characters a bit too freely? I
mean, Cyrano ne'er tilted any windbagmills no matter slow or fine they
grind.


Gilligan wrote:
DE GUICHE (who has controlled himself--smiling):
Have you read 'Don Quixote'?

CYRANO:
I have!
And doff my hat at th' mad knight-errant's name.

DE GUICHE:
I counsel you to study. . .

A PORTER (appearing at back):
My lord's chair!

DE GUICHE:
. . .The windmill chapter!

CYRANO (bowing):
Chapter the Thirteenth.

DE GUICHE:
For when one tilts 'gainst windmills--it may chance. . .

CYRANO:
Tilt I 'gainst those who change with every breeze?

DE GUICHE:
. . .That windmill sails may sweep you with their arm
Down--in the mire!. . .

CYRANO:
Or upward--to the stars!


I remembered that part... one of my favorite pieces of literature... BTW
aren't you afraid of invoking the Crapton's ire, quoting something that's
not only "Theatah" but so blatantly French?

Observe the above dialogue. Cyrano was not tilting at windmills, nor was
he planning to. He was pointing oout De Guiche's error in assuming that
Don Quixote's madness would inevitably lead to failure & humiliation... a
veiled threat against Cyrano.

DSK

He needed an antidote to engineering school?
Flying Tadpole

Scout wrote:
Doug,
how did you come to have such an extensive background in literature?
Scout

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .

But aren't you mixing your metaphorical characters a bit too freely? I
mean, Cyrano ne'er tilted any windbagmills no matter slow or fine they
grind.

Gilligan wrote:

DE GUICHE (who has controlled himself--smiling):
Have you read 'Don Quixote'?

CYRANO:
I have!
And doff my hat at th' mad knight-errant's name.

DE GUICHE:
I counsel you to study. . .

A PORTER (appearing at back):
My lord's chair!

DE GUICHE:
. . .The windmill chapter!

CYRANO (bowing):
Chapter the Thirteenth.

DE GUICHE:
For when one tilts 'gainst windmills--it may chance. . .

CYRANO:
Tilt I 'gainst those who change with every breeze?

DE GUICHE:
. . .That windmill sails may sweep you with their arm
Down--in the mire!. . .

CYRANO:
Or upward--to the stars!


I remembered that part... one of my favorite pieces of literature... BTW
aren't you afraid of invoking the Crapton's ire, quoting something that's
not only "Theatah" but so blatantly French?

Observe the above dialogue. Cyrano was not tilting at windmills, nor was
he planning to. He was pointing oout De Guiche's error in assuming that
Don Quixote's madness would inevitably lead to failure & humiliation... a
veiled threat against Cyrano.

DSK

By the processes of elimination Scout was running through,
Neal=Bobsprit was one of the few possibilities left. As a kind
and compassionate soul, I thought I'd better help him with his
selection process...

--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/sbhome.htm
http://music.download.com/timfatchen
http://music.download.com/internetopera


katysails wrote:
GASP.....how could your mind come up with such a thought???

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...

Scout, sometimes living in a megalopolis can have strange effects on the
mind and understanding and behaviour. Being aware of this, there is much
those of us far from the madding crowd can indeed accept from you. But
please, for your own health and sanity, not to mention those young minds
for whom you are responsible, see your fantasy for what it truly is--Capt
Neal just CAN'T BE Bobsprit!

Scout wrote:

"Gilligan" wrote


Well, what if it be my vice,
My pleasure to displease--to love men hate me!


So sad ~ these words!
Preemptive scorn is scorn of self and fear of self-worthlessness!
Why does Captain Neal doubt himself so?



He is not Don
Quixote afterall, he is the Cowardly Lion!

You can do better than that.


How so? The Cowardly Lion is one of the most complex characters in
literature!
William Jennings Bryan was a right-winged, opinionated, blustering bully.
He was smart and talented, but at best, history will remember him as a
tragic hero; the primary cause of his own failure.



He is an invention, a cathartic adventure for some other here whose

monogram


is a paper thin mask of civility.


Explain your use of "monogram". You forgot to read the introduction or do
you really believe that civility walks hand in hand with "not mincing
words
to spare the thin skinned or ignorant"?


Simply this: CN is very likely a darker personna of some regular poster
here who, having earned the respect of the group, does not feel free to
expose his troglodytic tenets under that same name.
Does *Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde* ring a bell?

Scout

--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner
http://music.download.com/internetopera
http://www.soundclick.com/flyingtadpolemusic.htm