Capt. Neal® wrote:
Rule 30
a) A vessel at anchor shall exhibit where it can best be seen:
1.. in the fore part, an all-round white light or one ball;
2.. at or near the stern and at a lower level than the light
prescribed in subparagraph (i), an all-round white light.
Special anchorage means nothing unless the vessel is less than 20 meters.

The question says a barge greater than fifty meters . . .

The correct answer is two anchor lights as per above.

I hope this helps.

CN

As stated, question 26 was debatable. If you go by the older rules, and
Bart's test was using that, then he was correct, only one light required
as written for the test.
I'm still checking that one as I think you may be right (ROFL), but
since it's become obvious your rules are out of date, I'm giving you a
"wrong" based on what you know.

otn

Only missed 4 because 29 and 35 are the same question reworded.

The towing light question is unfair and the special flashing light
is a change in the Rules. So, I really only missed two legitimately.

CN


"otnmbrd" wrote in message .net...
Capt. Neal® wrote:


Three counting that trick question where they changed the rules for the
special flashing light.

The barge question over fifty meters in a special anchorage area the
right answer is TWO anchor lights. Bart was wrong when he said one
anchor light was the right answer.

CN

Nope, 5.

Once again, 17,18,21,29,35 (backpedaled).

otn

otnmbrd wrote:
Capt. Neal® wrote:

Rule 30
a) A vessel at anchor shall exhibit where it can best be seen:
1.. in the fore part, an all-round white light or one ball;
2.. at or near the stern and at a lower level than the light
prescribed in subparagraph (i), an all-round white light.
Special anchorage means nothing unless the vessel is less than 20 meters.

The question says a barge greater than fifty meters . . .

The correct answer is two anchor lights as per above.

I hope this helps.

CN


As stated, question 26 was debatable. If you go by the older rules, and
Bart's test was using that, then he was correct, only one light required
as written for the test.
I'm still checking that one as I think you may be right (ROFL), but
since it's become obvious your rules are out of date, I'm giving you a
"wrong" based on what you know.

otn

I'm not sure what the "older rules" say. My 1990 rule book is word
the same as the newer rules. (2 lights, only one below 50 meters,
"special anchorage" exclusion below 20 meters).

The 1948 rules are similar. Vessels over 150 feet need two lights.

Capt. Neal® wrote:


Only missed 4 because 29 and 35 are the same question reworded.

The towing light question is unfair and the special flashing light
is a change in the Rules. So, I really only missed two legitimately.

CN

LOL, Got you up to 4. Excuses on 29 and 35 are not accepted, which makes 5.

otn

Jeff Morris wrote:
otnmbrd wrote:

Capt. Neal® wrote:

Rule 30
a) A vessel at anchor shall exhibit where it can best be seen:
1.. in the fore part, an all-round white light or one ball;
2.. at or near the stern and at a lower level than the light
prescribed in subparagraph (i), an all-round white light.
Special anchorage means nothing unless the vessel is less than 20
meters.

The question says a barge greater than fifty meters . . .

The correct answer is two anchor lights as per above.

I hope this helps.

CN



As stated, question 26 was debatable. If you go by the older rules,
and Bart's test was using that, then he was correct, only one light
required as written for the test.
I'm still checking that one as I think you may be right (ROFL), but
since it's become obvious your rules are out of date, I'm giving you a
"wrong" based on what you know.

otn

I'm not sure what the "older rules" say. My 1990 rule book is word the
same as the newer rules. (2 lights, only one below 50 meters, "special
anchorage" exclusion below 20 meters).

The 1948 rules are similar. Vessels over 150 feet need two lights.

May1, 1977 edition:

Inland Rules.
Art. 11 (c) (2)
A barge, canal boat, scow, or other nondescript craft of one hundred
fifty feet or upward in length may carry and exhibit the single white
light prescribed in paragraph (a) of this article in lieu of the two
white lights prescribed in paragraph (b) of this article.

otn

otnmbrd wrote:
Jeff Morris wrote:

otnmbrd wrote:

Capt. Neal® wrote:

Rule 30
a) A vessel at anchor shall exhibit where it can best be seen:
1.. in the fore part, an all-round white light or one ball;
2.. at or near the stern and at a lower level than the light
prescribed in subparagraph (i), an all-round white light.
Special anchorage means nothing unless the vessel is less than 20
meters.

The question says a barge greater than fifty meters . . .

The correct answer is two anchor lights as per above.

I hope this helps.

CN




As stated, question 26 was debatable. If you go by the older rules,
and Bart's test was using that, then he was correct, only one light
required as written for the test.
I'm still checking that one as I think you may be right (ROFL), but
since it's become obvious your rules are out of date, I'm giving you
a "wrong" based on what you know.

otn

I'm not sure what the "older rules" say. My 1990 rule book is word
the same as the newer rules. (2 lights, only one below 50 meters,
"special anchorage" exclusion below 20 meters).

The 1948 rules are similar. Vessels over 150 feet need two lights.


May1, 1977 edition:

Inland Rules.
Art. 11 (c) (2)
A barge, canal boat, scow, or other nondescript craft of one hundred
fifty feet or upward in length may carry and exhibit the single white
light prescribed in paragraph (a) of this article in lieu of the two
white lights prescribed in paragraph (b) of this article.

otn
Wow, I'm impressed. I only have the International version of the 1948
rules, which doesn't include that rule. Also, my 1897 inland rules
don't have that, it is worded like the 1948 rule. Now I'm going to
have to start looking for my 1962 Chapman!

Jeff Morris wrote:
otnmbrd wrote:


May1, 1977 edition:

Inland Rules.
Art. 11 (c) (2)
A barge, canal boat, scow, or other nondescript craft of one hundred
fifty feet or upward in length may carry and exhibit the single white
light prescribed in paragraph (a) of this article in lieu of the two
white lights prescribed in paragraph (b) of this article.

otn

Wow, I'm impressed. I only have the International version of the 1948
rules, which doesn't include that rule. Also, my 1897 inland rules
don't have that, it is worded like the 1948 rule. Now I'm going to
have to start looking for my 1962 Chapman!

The good news is that saving those older editions helps you look up some
of "answers" people give to Rules questions.
The bad news is you need to be sure you use the up to date version when
answering, especially on test. G

otn

You would probably have a hard time passing the modern-day test having
cluttered your mind with all the old rules. The same goes for Jeff Morris.

Forget the old and stick with the new.

CN


"otnmbrd" wrote in message k.net...
The good news is that saving those older editions helps you look up some
of "answers" people give to Rules questions.
The bad news is you need to be sure you use the up to date version when
answering, especially on test. G

otn

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
You would probably have a hard time passing the modern-day test having
cluttered your mind with all the old rules. The same goes for Jeff Morris.

Forget the old and stick with the new.
CN

Problem with that is, I've been using the Rules since the early 60's, which
means those "old" rules are all ready there.
In most cases it helps by making me aware that I might need to look further
into the "book" when an oddly phrased question arises or a certain phrase
shows up.
As for taking the test..... I wouldn't want to have to do it tomorrow.

otn

The correct answer is two anchor lights. I just posted that.

I didn't post an answer right away because I didn't see
any correct responses. Your response Neal did not show
up on my newsreader. I just checked on Google Groups,
and saw that you, Capt Neal, were the one and only person
to post the correct answer. I awarded you 1 point on that
thread.

Bart

"Capt. Neal®" wrote


Three counting that trick question where they changed the rules for the
special flashing light.

The barge question over fifty meters in a special anchorage area the
right answer is TWO anchor lights. Bart was wrong when he said one
anchor light was the right answer.