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JG February 21st 05 10:16 PM

Unlike Neal, I'm not a pedofile.

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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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...and you have how many children again Jon???

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
No, it's the parents who must inspire the child. The teacher is supposed
to support the enthusiasm and open up even more pathways to knowledge.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:ZylSd.17861$NN.13680@edtnps89...
If a teacher can't inspire the will to learn in their students..... they
have failed at their profession.
Damn it all... now I'm starting to consider that maybe my grade 9
education isn't sufficient.
Mind you it never seems to bother me when I'm directing an engineer on
how to his job.

CM


"Scout" wrote in message
...
Reading your story only emphasizes how tragic the educational blunders
of G.W.Bush truly are. In America's vocational high schools, students
much like you were, kids who've made a career out of daydreaming
instead of participating in the classroom activities, are given a
second chance to learn in a way that is not at the bottom of Bloom's
Taxonomy (rote). Vocational teachers look beyond the corruption of a
public school system that would use it's technical annex as a dumping
ground for the learning disabled, the trouble makers, and in general,
young malcontents.
We take what they consider to be trash, and we re-awaken them,
challenge them, polish them into productive, self-respecting gems. For
many of our students, the vo-tech allows them to get a high school
diploma AND real skills they can use. Our kids show their genius every
day.
Consider one welding student I know. For his senior project he
re-created a few blocks of Manhattan around ground-zero. He fabricated
all the buildings using stainless steel, except for the twin towers,
which he made using mild steel. The entire piece sits under a spotlight
in the school's front-yard. As we watch the towers rust and
disintegrate, we are reminded daily of the tragedy of 911. People pull
into our parking lot and stare contemplatively at the project. It makes
a person think. This kid took what he learned about metals and welding
techniques, and integrated that with what he felt in his heart. The
result is magnificent and deep. And to think, this kid wanted to quit
school because people like our president told him he was a failure
because he couldn't write a flowery essay to describe his ideas!
Thanks to the Bush's standardized testing policies, traditional high
schools are sending swarms of kids who perform poorly on these written
tests to the full curriculum vo-techs, so their poor test scores can
cause the vo-techs to get Bush's public spanking instead of the sending
school. These tests don't acknowledge the genius of the kid who is
staring out the window and germinating the seeds of a success that is
not based on pedantic learning.
We have PhDs, engineers, nurses, and professionals from many walks of
life on staff, guiding these students and giving them new motivation to
learn fundamentals (show them why they need to know math and science).
When kids find a reason for abstract thinking, they work harder to
learn those skills as well.
And these are the schools that Bush wants to close. He calls our kids
"shoe makers" I believe. He is a fool! He has no clue what level of
technology our kids are achieving. From bio-technology to CNC
programming, from masonry to hvac to roofing, from engineering to
advertising, our kids are blossoming into productive citizenship! What
they're not doing is repairing shoes, what they are doing is building
smart robots, producing detailed architectural drawings, and
programming emission systems to improve air quality and gas mileage.
Go ahead Bush, close the schools that are helping our challenging but
nonetheless brilliant kids. Send the money to Iraq so they can have the
things you want to deny American kids!
The only thing that scares me more than this jerk-off's ideas about
schools is the fact that he now wants to apply the same "privatization"
mentality to social security. That's really what this is all about
isn't it? Privatize everything so business in America can do what it
will with and to the American people. Nothing personal, it's just
business. That's why it's important that Bush cause the collapse of
public schools and then blame them for it. If it all goes well, each
family can find a way to pay for the education of their kids. If they
can't afford it, screw 'em. It's important that social security be
deemed a failure too; find a way to retire without it all you civil
servants!
In the end, the only thing Bush won't privatize will be the IRS.
Scout. Phew!


"jlrogers±³©" wrote
[snip]
First-We must have a dream that motivates us. No one has ever
achieved
anything without a dream attached to a burning desire.

Second-We must learn how-to-learn. In school, we learn how to
memorize or
be taught. Learning how to learn frees our dependency on others for
knowledge.

Third-We must learn from failure and learn how to bounce back from
failure. No one ever succeed without failure. In the classroom,
failure is a
no-no.











JG February 21st 05 10:16 PM

Earth

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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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"JG" wrote in message
...
But the exception does prove the point that most gov't workers work hard.


Bwahahahahahahahahahaaaaa.... what planet are you from?

CM




Capt. Mooron February 21st 05 10:25 PM

I didn't ask you how many you diddled Ganz... I asked how many you had!

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
Unlike Neal, I'm not a pedofile.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:IsqSd.19585$NN.13986@edtnps89...
...and you have how many children again Jon???

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
No, it's the parents who must inspire the child. The teacher is supposed
to support the enthusiasm and open up even more pathways to knowledge.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:ZylSd.17861$NN.13680@edtnps89...
If a teacher can't inspire the will to learn in their students.....
they have failed at their profession.
Damn it all... now I'm starting to consider that maybe my grade 9
education isn't sufficient.
Mind you it never seems to bother me when I'm directing an engineer on
how to his job.

CM


"Scout" wrote in message
...
Reading your story only emphasizes how tragic the educational blunders
of G.W.Bush truly are. In America's vocational high schools, students
much like you were, kids who've made a career out of daydreaming
instead of participating in the classroom activities, are given a
second chance to learn in a way that is not at the bottom of Bloom's
Taxonomy (rote). Vocational teachers look beyond the corruption of a
public school system that would use it's technical annex as a dumping
ground for the learning disabled, the trouble makers, and in general,
young malcontents.
We take what they consider to be trash, and we re-awaken them,
challenge them, polish them into productive, self-respecting gems. For
many of our students, the vo-tech allows them to get a high school
diploma AND real skills they can use. Our kids show their genius every
day.
Consider one welding student I know. For his senior project he
re-created a few blocks of Manhattan around ground-zero. He fabricated
all the buildings using stainless steel, except for the twin towers,
which he made using mild steel. The entire piece sits under a
spotlight in the school's front-yard. As we watch the towers rust and
disintegrate, we are reminded daily of the tragedy of 911. People pull
into our parking lot and stare contemplatively at the project. It
makes a person think. This kid took what he learned about metals and
welding techniques, and integrated that with what he felt in his
heart. The result is magnificent and deep. And to think, this kid
wanted to quit school because people like our president told him he
was a failure because he couldn't write a flowery essay to describe
his ideas!
Thanks to the Bush's standardized testing policies, traditional high
schools are sending swarms of kids who perform poorly on these written
tests to the full curriculum vo-techs, so their poor test scores can
cause the vo-techs to get Bush's public spanking instead of the
sending school. These tests don't acknowledge the genius of the kid
who is staring out the window and germinating the seeds of a success
that is not based on pedantic learning.
We have PhDs, engineers, nurses, and professionals from many walks of
life on staff, guiding these students and giving them new motivation
to learn fundamentals (show them why they need to know math and
science). When kids find a reason for abstract thinking, they work
harder to learn those skills as well.
And these are the schools that Bush wants to close. He calls our kids
"shoe makers" I believe. He is a fool! He has no clue what level of
technology our kids are achieving. From bio-technology to CNC
programming, from masonry to hvac to roofing, from engineering to
advertising, our kids are blossoming into productive citizenship! What
they're not doing is repairing shoes, what they are doing is building
smart robots, producing detailed architectural drawings, and
programming emission systems to improve air quality and gas mileage.
Go ahead Bush, close the schools that are helping our challenging but
nonetheless brilliant kids. Send the money to Iraq so they can have
the things you want to deny American kids!
The only thing that scares me more than this jerk-off's ideas about
schools is the fact that he now wants to apply the same
"privatization" mentality to social security. That's really what this
is all about isn't it? Privatize everything so business in America can
do what it will with and to the American people. Nothing personal,
it's just business. That's why it's important that Bush cause the
collapse of public schools and then blame them for it. If it all goes
well, each family can find a way to pay for the education of their
kids. If they can't afford it, screw 'em. It's important that social
security be deemed a failure too; find a way to retire without it all
you civil servants!
In the end, the only thing Bush won't privatize will be the IRS.
Scout. Phew!


"jlrogers±³©" wrote
[snip]
First-We must have a dream that motivates us. No one has ever
achieved
anything without a dream attached to a burning desire.

Second-We must learn how-to-learn. In school, we learn how to
memorize or
be taught. Learning how to learn frees our dependency on others for
knowledge.

Third-We must learn from failure and learn how to bounce back from
failure. No one ever succeed without failure. In the classroom,
failure is a
no-no.













JG February 21st 05 11:51 PM

In your parlance, that's a pedofile or a homosexual. So, I answered in kind.
It's none of your business how many children I've parented.

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www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:SdtSd.21023$NN.19388@edtnps89...
I didn't ask you how many you diddled Ganz... I asked how many you had!

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
Unlike Neal, I'm not a pedofile.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:IsqSd.19585$NN.13986@edtnps89...
...and you have how many children again Jon???

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
No, it's the parents who must inspire the child. The teacher is
supposed to support the enthusiasm and open up even more pathways to
knowledge.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:ZylSd.17861$NN.13680@edtnps89...
If a teacher can't inspire the will to learn in their students.....
they have failed at their profession.
Damn it all... now I'm starting to consider that maybe my grade 9
education isn't sufficient.
Mind you it never seems to bother me when I'm directing an engineer on
how to his job.

CM


"Scout" wrote in message
...
Reading your story only emphasizes how tragic the educational
blunders of G.W.Bush truly are. In America's vocational high schools,
students much like you were, kids who've made a career out of
daydreaming instead of participating in the classroom activities, are
given a second chance to learn in a way that is not at the bottom of
Bloom's Taxonomy (rote). Vocational teachers look beyond the
corruption of a public school system that would use it's technical
annex as a dumping ground for the learning disabled, the trouble
makers, and in general, young malcontents.
We take what they consider to be trash, and we re-awaken them,
challenge them, polish them into productive, self-respecting gems.
For many of our students, the vo-tech allows them to get a high
school diploma AND real skills they can use. Our kids show their
genius every day.
Consider one welding student I know. For his senior project he
re-created a few blocks of Manhattan around ground-zero. He
fabricated all the buildings using stainless steel, except for the
twin towers, which he made using mild steel. The entire piece sits
under a spotlight in the school's front-yard. As we watch the towers
rust and disintegrate, we are reminded daily of the tragedy of 911.
People pull into our parking lot and stare contemplatively at the
project. It makes a person think. This kid took what he learned about
metals and welding techniques, and integrated that with what he felt
in his heart. The result is magnificent and deep. And to think, this
kid wanted to quit school because people like our president told him
he was a failure because he couldn't write a flowery essay to
describe his ideas!
Thanks to the Bush's standardized testing policies, traditional high
schools are sending swarms of kids who perform poorly on these
written tests to the full curriculum vo-techs, so their poor test
scores can cause the vo-techs to get Bush's public spanking instead
of the sending school. These tests don't acknowledge the genius of
the kid who is staring out the window and germinating the seeds of a
success that is not based on pedantic learning.
We have PhDs, engineers, nurses, and professionals from many walks of
life on staff, guiding these students and giving them new motivation
to learn fundamentals (show them why they need to know math and
science). When kids find a reason for abstract thinking, they work
harder to learn those skills as well.
And these are the schools that Bush wants to close. He calls our kids
"shoe makers" I believe. He is a fool! He has no clue what level of
technology our kids are achieving. From bio-technology to CNC
programming, from masonry to hvac to roofing, from engineering to
advertising, our kids are blossoming into productive citizenship!
What they're not doing is repairing shoes, what they are doing is
building smart robots, producing detailed architectural drawings, and
programming emission systems to improve air quality and gas mileage.
Go ahead Bush, close the schools that are helping our challenging but
nonetheless brilliant kids. Send the money to Iraq so they can have
the things you want to deny American kids!
The only thing that scares me more than this jerk-off's ideas about
schools is the fact that he now wants to apply the same
"privatization" mentality to social security. That's really what this
is all about isn't it? Privatize everything so business in America
can do what it will with and to the American people. Nothing
personal, it's just business. That's why it's important that Bush
cause the collapse of public schools and then blame them for it. If
it all goes well, each family can find a way to pay for the education
of their kids. If they can't afford it, screw 'em. It's important
that social security be deemed a failure too; find a way to retire
without it all you civil servants!
In the end, the only thing Bush won't privatize will be the IRS.
Scout. Phew!


"jlrogers±³©" wrote
[snip]
First-We must have a dream that motivates us. No one has ever
achieved
anything without a dream attached to a burning desire.

Second-We must learn how-to-learn. In school, we learn how to
memorize or
be taught. Learning how to learn frees our dependency on others for
knowledge.

Third-We must learn from failure and learn how to bounce back from
failure. No one ever succeed without failure. In the classroom,
failure is a
no-no.















Horvath February 22nd 05 12:49 AM

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:59:03 GMT, "Scout"
wrote this crap:

Amen!
What Horvath and Bush don't seem to get is that not everyone is inspired by
the same method.
Both also seem to imply that vocational students are future burger flippers.
I hope Horvy figures out the truth so he's not too shocked when he finds out
my 10th grade students are more qualified for a job in telephony than he is.



Ha Ha Ha Ha HA! Not a chance. I wouldn't hire any one of them





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Horvath February 22nd 05 12:51 AM

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:16:56 GMT, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote this crap:

...and you have how many children again Jon???



He CAN'T have children. He doesn't have sex with women.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Scout February 22nd 05 02:04 AM

They're not asking you to hire them. They're your competition!


"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:59:03 GMT, "Scout"
wrote this crap:

Amen!
What Horvath and Bush don't seem to get is that not everyone is inspired
by
the same method.
Both also seem to imply that vocational students are future burger
flippers.
I hope Horvy figures out the truth so he's not too shocked when he finds
out
my 10th grade students are more qualified for a job in telephony than he
is.



Ha Ha Ha Ha HA! Not a chance. I wouldn't hire any one of them





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!




Horvath February 22nd 05 11:20 AM

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 02:04:01 GMT, "Scout"
wrote this crap:

They're not asking you to hire them. They're your competition!



Not ****ing likely. I have no competition.



"Horvath" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:59:03 GMT, "Scout"
wrote this crap:

Amen!
What Horvath and Bush don't seem to get is that not everyone is inspired
by
the same method.
Both also seem to imply that vocational students are future burger
flippers.
I hope Horvy figures out the truth so he's not too shocked when he finds
out
my 10th grade students are more qualified for a job in telephony than he
is.



Ha Ha Ha Ha HA! Not a chance. I wouldn't hire any one of them





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Capt. Mooron February 22nd 05 12:09 PM

Wooooooooo..... that hit a nerve!

Gaynz probably has an order restricting him to remain at least 100 yards
from any children!

See Gaynz... that's your problem... you associate children with sex....
while the rest of us associate children as the result of sex.

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
In your parlance, that's a pedofile or a homosexual. So, I answered in
kind. It's none of your business how many children I've parented.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:SdtSd.21023$NN.19388@edtnps89...
I didn't ask you how many you diddled Ganz... I asked how many you had!

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
Unlike Neal, I'm not a pedofile.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:IsqSd.19585$NN.13986@edtnps89...
...and you have how many children again Jon???

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
No, it's the parents who must inspire the child. The teacher is
supposed to support the enthusiasm and open up even more pathways to
knowledge.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:ZylSd.17861$NN.13680@edtnps89...
If a teacher can't inspire the will to learn in their students.....
they have failed at their profession.
Damn it all... now I'm starting to consider that maybe my grade 9
education isn't sufficient.
Mind you it never seems to bother me when I'm directing an engineer
on how to his job.

CM


"Scout" wrote in message
...
Reading your story only emphasizes how tragic the educational
blunders of G.W.Bush truly are. In America's vocational high
schools, students much like you were, kids who've made a career out
of daydreaming instead of participating in the classroom activities,
are given a second chance to learn in a way that is not at the
bottom of Bloom's Taxonomy (rote). Vocational teachers look beyond
the corruption of a public school system that would use it's
technical annex as a dumping ground for the learning disabled, the
trouble makers, and in general, young malcontents.
We take what they consider to be trash, and we re-awaken them,
challenge them, polish them into productive, self-respecting gems.
For many of our students, the vo-tech allows them to get a high
school diploma AND real skills they can use. Our kids show their
genius every day.
Consider one welding student I know. For his senior project he
re-created a few blocks of Manhattan around ground-zero. He
fabricated all the buildings using stainless steel, except for the
twin towers, which he made using mild steel. The entire piece sits
under a spotlight in the school's front-yard. As we watch the towers
rust and disintegrate, we are reminded daily of the tragedy of 911.
People pull into our parking lot and stare contemplatively at the
project. It makes a person think. This kid took what he learned
about metals and welding techniques, and integrated that with what
he felt in his heart. The result is magnificent and deep. And to
think, this kid wanted to quit school because people like our
president told him he was a failure because he couldn't write a
flowery essay to describe his ideas!
Thanks to the Bush's standardized testing policies, traditional high
schools are sending swarms of kids who perform poorly on these
written tests to the full curriculum vo-techs, so their poor test
scores can cause the vo-techs to get Bush's public spanking instead
of the sending school. These tests don't acknowledge the genius of
the kid who is staring out the window and germinating the seeds of a
success that is not based on pedantic learning.
We have PhDs, engineers, nurses, and professionals from many walks
of life on staff, guiding these students and giving them new
motivation to learn fundamentals (show them why they need to know
math and science). When kids find a reason for abstract thinking,
they work harder to learn those skills as well.
And these are the schools that Bush wants to close. He calls our
kids "shoe makers" I believe. He is a fool! He has no clue what
level of technology our kids are achieving. From bio-technology to
CNC programming, from masonry to hvac to roofing, from engineering
to advertising, our kids are blossoming into productive citizenship!
What they're not doing is repairing shoes, what they are doing is
building smart robots, producing detailed architectural drawings,
and programming emission systems to improve air quality and gas
mileage.
Go ahead Bush, close the schools that are helping our challenging
but nonetheless brilliant kids. Send the money to Iraq so they can
have the things you want to deny American kids!
The only thing that scares me more than this jerk-off's ideas about
schools is the fact that he now wants to apply the same
"privatization" mentality to social security. That's really what
this is all about isn't it? Privatize everything so business in
America can do what it will with and to the American people. Nothing
personal, it's just business. That's why it's important that Bush
cause the collapse of public schools and then blame them for it. If
it all goes well, each family can find a way to pay for the
education of their kids. If they can't afford it, screw 'em. It's
important that social security be deemed a failure too; find a way
to retire without it all you civil servants!
In the end, the only thing Bush won't privatize will be the IRS.
Scout. Phew!


"jlrogers±³©" wrote
[snip]
First-We must have a dream that motivates us. No one has ever
achieved
anything without a dream attached to a burning desire.

Second-We must learn how-to-learn. In school, we learn how to
memorize or
be taught. Learning how to learn frees our dependency on others for
knowledge.

Third-We must learn from failure and learn how to bounce back from
failure. No one ever succeed without failure. In the classroom,
failure is a
no-no.

















JG February 22nd 05 06:52 PM

Whoooo... hit a nerve with you.... Why don't you call me a homo again...
that's about your speed.

--
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www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:kiFSd.24641$NN.9486@edtnps89...
Wooooooooo..... that hit a nerve!

Gaynz probably has an order restricting him to remain at least 100 yards
from any children!

See Gaynz... that's your problem... you associate children with sex....
while the rest of us associate children as the result of sex.

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
In your parlance, that's a pedofile or a homosexual. So, I answered in
kind. It's none of your business how many children I've parented.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:SdtSd.21023$NN.19388@edtnps89...
I didn't ask you how many you diddled Ganz... I asked how many you had!

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
Unlike Neal, I'm not a pedofile.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:IsqSd.19585$NN.13986@edtnps89...
...and you have how many children again Jon???

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
No, it's the parents who must inspire the child. The teacher is
supposed to support the enthusiasm and open up even more pathways to
knowledge.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:ZylSd.17861$NN.13680@edtnps89...
If a teacher can't inspire the will to learn in their students.....
they have failed at their profession.
Damn it all... now I'm starting to consider that maybe my grade 9
education isn't sufficient.
Mind you it never seems to bother me when I'm directing an engineer
on how to his job.

CM


"Scout" wrote in message
...
Reading your story only emphasizes how tragic the educational
blunders of G.W.Bush truly are. In America's vocational high
schools, students much like you were, kids who've made a career out
of daydreaming instead of participating in the classroom
activities, are given a second chance to learn in a way that is not
at the bottom of Bloom's Taxonomy (rote). Vocational teachers look
beyond the corruption of a public school system that would use it's
technical annex as a dumping ground for the learning disabled, the
trouble makers, and in general, young malcontents.
We take what they consider to be trash, and we re-awaken them,
challenge them, polish them into productive, self-respecting gems.
For many of our students, the vo-tech allows them to get a high
school diploma AND real skills they can use. Our kids show their
genius every day.
Consider one welding student I know. For his senior project he
re-created a few blocks of Manhattan around ground-zero. He
fabricated all the buildings using stainless steel, except for the
twin towers, which he made using mild steel. The entire piece sits
under a spotlight in the school's front-yard. As we watch the
towers rust and disintegrate, we are reminded daily of the tragedy
of 911. People pull into our parking lot and stare contemplatively
at the project. It makes a person think. This kid took what he
learned about metals and welding techniques, and integrated that
with what he felt in his heart. The result is magnificent and deep.
And to think, this kid wanted to quit school because people like
our president told him he was a failure because he couldn't write a
flowery essay to describe his ideas!
Thanks to the Bush's standardized testing policies, traditional
high schools are sending swarms of kids who perform poorly on these
written tests to the full curriculum vo-techs, so their poor test
scores can cause the vo-techs to get Bush's public spanking instead
of the sending school. These tests don't acknowledge the genius of
the kid who is staring out the window and germinating the seeds of
a success that is not based on pedantic learning.
We have PhDs, engineers, nurses, and professionals from many walks
of life on staff, guiding these students and giving them new
motivation to learn fundamentals (show them why they need to know
math and science). When kids find a reason for abstract thinking,
they work harder to learn those skills as well.
And these are the schools that Bush wants to close. He calls our
kids "shoe makers" I believe. He is a fool! He has no clue what
level of technology our kids are achieving. From bio-technology to
CNC programming, from masonry to hvac to roofing, from engineering
to advertising, our kids are blossoming into productive
citizenship! What they're not doing is repairing shoes, what they
are doing is building smart robots, producing detailed
architectural drawings, and programming emission systems to improve
air quality and gas mileage.
Go ahead Bush, close the schools that are helping our challenging
but nonetheless brilliant kids. Send the money to Iraq so they can
have the things you want to deny American kids!
The only thing that scares me more than this jerk-off's ideas about
schools is the fact that he now wants to apply the same
"privatization" mentality to social security. That's really what
this is all about isn't it? Privatize everything so business in
America can do what it will with and to the American people.
Nothing personal, it's just business. That's why it's important
that Bush cause the collapse of public schools and then blame them
for it. If it all goes well, each family can find a way to pay for
the education of their kids. If they can't afford it, screw 'em.
It's important that social security be deemed a failure too; find a
way to retire without it all you civil servants!
In the end, the only thing Bush won't privatize will be the IRS.
Scout. Phew!


"jlrogers±³©" wrote
[snip]
First-We must have a dream that motivates us. No one has ever
achieved
anything without a dream attached to a burning desire.

Second-We must learn how-to-learn. In school, we learn how to
memorize or
be taught. Learning how to learn frees our dependency on others
for
knowledge.

Third-We must learn from failure and learn how to bounce back
from
failure. No one ever succeed without failure. In the classroom,
failure is a
no-no.



















Capt. Mooron February 22nd 05 09:53 PM

You HOMO!!

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
Whoooo... hit a nerve with you.... Why don't you call me a homo again...
that's about your speed.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:kiFSd.24641$NN.9486@edtnps89...
Wooooooooo..... that hit a nerve!

Gaynz probably has an order restricting him to remain at least 100 yards
from any children!

See Gaynz... that's your problem... you associate children with sex....
while the rest of us associate children as the result of sex.

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
In your parlance, that's a pedofile or a homosexual. So, I answered in
kind. It's none of your business how many children I've parented.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:SdtSd.21023$NN.19388@edtnps89...
I didn't ask you how many you diddled Ganz... I asked how many you had!

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
Unlike Neal, I'm not a pedofile.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:IsqSd.19585$NN.13986@edtnps89...
...and you have how many children again Jon???

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
No, it's the parents who must inspire the child. The teacher is
supposed to support the enthusiasm and open up even more pathways to
knowledge.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:ZylSd.17861$NN.13680@edtnps89...
If a teacher can't inspire the will to learn in their students.....
they have failed at their profession.
Damn it all... now I'm starting to consider that maybe my grade 9
education isn't sufficient.
Mind you it never seems to bother me when I'm directing an engineer
on how to his job.

CM


"Scout" wrote in message
...
Reading your story only emphasizes how tragic the educational
blunders of G.W.Bush truly are. In America's vocational high
schools, students much like you were, kids who've made a career
out of daydreaming instead of participating in the classroom
activities, are given a second chance to learn in a way that is
not at the bottom of Bloom's Taxonomy (rote). Vocational teachers
look beyond the corruption of a public school system that would
use it's technical annex as a dumping ground for the learning
disabled, the trouble makers, and in general, young malcontents.
We take what they consider to be trash, and we re-awaken them,
challenge them, polish them into productive, self-respecting gems.
For many of our students, the vo-tech allows them to get a high
school diploma AND real skills they can use. Our kids show their
genius every day.
Consider one welding student I know. For his senior project he
re-created a few blocks of Manhattan around ground-zero. He
fabricated all the buildings using stainless steel, except for the
twin towers, which he made using mild steel. The entire piece sits
under a spotlight in the school's front-yard. As we watch the
towers rust and disintegrate, we are reminded daily of the tragedy
of 911. People pull into our parking lot and stare contemplatively
at the project. It makes a person think. This kid took what he
learned about metals and welding techniques, and integrated that
with what he felt in his heart. The result is magnificent and
deep. And to think, this kid wanted to quit school because people
like our president told him he was a failure because he couldn't
write a flowery essay to describe his ideas!
Thanks to the Bush's standardized testing policies, traditional
high schools are sending swarms of kids who perform poorly on
these written tests to the full curriculum vo-techs, so their poor
test scores can cause the vo-techs to get Bush's public spanking
instead of the sending school. These tests don't acknowledge the
genius of the kid who is staring out the window and germinating
the seeds of a success that is not based on pedantic learning.
We have PhDs, engineers, nurses, and professionals from many walks
of life on staff, guiding these students and giving them new
motivation to learn fundamentals (show them why they need to know
math and science). When kids find a reason for abstract thinking,
they work harder to learn those skills as well.
And these are the schools that Bush wants to close. He calls our
kids "shoe makers" I believe. He is a fool! He has no clue what
level of technology our kids are achieving. From bio-technology to
CNC programming, from masonry to hvac to roofing, from engineering
to advertising, our kids are blossoming into productive
citizenship! What they're not doing is repairing shoes, what they
are doing is building smart robots, producing detailed
architectural drawings, and programming emission systems to
improve air quality and gas mileage.
Go ahead Bush, close the schools that are helping our challenging
but nonetheless brilliant kids. Send the money to Iraq so they can
have the things you want to deny American kids!
The only thing that scares me more than this jerk-off's ideas
about schools is the fact that he now wants to apply the same
"privatization" mentality to social security. That's really what
this is all about isn't it? Privatize everything so business in
America can do what it will with and to the American people.
Nothing personal, it's just business. That's why it's important
that Bush cause the collapse of public schools and then blame them
for it. If it all goes well, each family can find a way to pay for
the education of their kids. If they can't afford it, screw 'em.
It's important that social security be deemed a failure too; find
a way to retire without it all you civil servants!
In the end, the only thing Bush won't privatize will be the IRS.
Scout. Phew!


"jlrogers±³©" wrote
[snip]
First-We must have a dream that motivates us. No one has ever
achieved
anything without a dream attached to a burning desire.

Second-We must learn how-to-learn. In school, we learn how to
memorize or
be taught. Learning how to learn frees our dependency on others
for
knowledge.

Third-We must learn from failure and learn how to bounce back
from
failure. No one ever succeed without failure. In the classroom,
failure is a
no-no.





















JG February 22nd 05 10:01 PM

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:IRNSd.25977$NN.12765@edtnps89...
You HOMO!!

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
Whoooo... hit a nerve with you.... Why don't you call me a homo again...
that's about your speed.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:kiFSd.24641$NN.9486@edtnps89...
Wooooooooo..... that hit a nerve!

Gaynz probably has an order restricting him to remain at least 100 yards
from any children!

See Gaynz... that's your problem... you associate children with sex....
while the rest of us associate children as the result of sex.

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
In your parlance, that's a pedofile or a homosexual. So, I answered in
kind. It's none of your business how many children I've parented.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:SdtSd.21023$NN.19388@edtnps89...
I didn't ask you how many you diddled Ganz... I asked how many you had!

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
Unlike Neal, I'm not a pedofile.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:IsqSd.19585$NN.13986@edtnps89...
...and you have how many children again Jon???

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
No, it's the parents who must inspire the child. The teacher is
supposed to support the enthusiasm and open up even more pathways
to knowledge.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:ZylSd.17861$NN.13680@edtnps89...
If a teacher can't inspire the will to learn in their
students..... they have failed at their profession.
Damn it all... now I'm starting to consider that maybe my grade
9 education isn't sufficient.
Mind you it never seems to bother me when I'm directing an
engineer on how to his job.

CM


"Scout" wrote in message
...
Reading your story only emphasizes how tragic the educational
blunders of G.W.Bush truly are. In America's vocational high
schools, students much like you were, kids who've made a career
out of daydreaming instead of participating in the classroom
activities, are given a second chance to learn in a way that is
not at the bottom of Bloom's Taxonomy (rote). Vocational teachers
look beyond the corruption of a public school system that would
use it's technical annex as a dumping ground for the learning
disabled, the trouble makers, and in general, young malcontents.
We take what they consider to be trash, and we re-awaken them,
challenge them, polish them into productive, self-respecting
gems. For many of our students, the vo-tech allows them to get a
high school diploma AND real skills they can use. Our kids show
their genius every day.
Consider one welding student I know. For his senior project he
re-created a few blocks of Manhattan around ground-zero. He
fabricated all the buildings using stainless steel, except for
the twin towers, which he made using mild steel. The entire piece
sits under a spotlight in the school's front-yard. As we watch
the towers rust and disintegrate, we are reminded daily of the
tragedy of 911. People pull into our parking lot and stare
contemplatively at the project. It makes a person think. This kid
took what he learned about metals and welding techniques, and
integrated that with what he felt in his heart. The result is
magnificent and deep. And to think, this kid wanted to quit
school because people like our president told him he was a
failure because he couldn't write a flowery essay to describe his
ideas!
Thanks to the Bush's standardized testing policies, traditional
high schools are sending swarms of kids who perform poorly on
these written tests to the full curriculum vo-techs, so their
poor test scores can cause the vo-techs to get Bush's public
spanking instead of the sending school. These tests don't
acknowledge the genius of the kid who is staring out the window
and germinating the seeds of a success that is not based on
pedantic learning.
We have PhDs, engineers, nurses, and professionals from many
walks of life on staff, guiding these students and giving them
new motivation to learn fundamentals (show them why they need to
know math and science). When kids find a reason for abstract
thinking, they work harder to learn those skills as well.
And these are the schools that Bush wants to close. He calls our
kids "shoe makers" I believe. He is a fool! He has no clue what
level of technology our kids are achieving. From bio-technology
to CNC programming, from masonry to hvac to roofing, from
engineering to advertising, our kids are blossoming into
productive citizenship! What they're not doing is repairing
shoes, what they are doing is building smart robots, producing
detailed architectural drawings, and programming emission systems
to improve air quality and gas mileage.
Go ahead Bush, close the schools that are helping our challenging
but nonetheless brilliant kids. Send the money to Iraq so they
can have the things you want to deny American kids!
The only thing that scares me more than this jerk-off's ideas
about schools is the fact that he now wants to apply the same
"privatization" mentality to social security. That's really what
this is all about isn't it? Privatize everything so business in
America can do what it will with and to the American people.
Nothing personal, it's just business. That's why it's important
that Bush cause the collapse of public schools and then blame
them for it. If it all goes well, each family can find a way to
pay for the education of their kids. If they can't afford it,
screw 'em. It's important that social security be deemed a
failure too; find a way to retire without it all you civil
servants!
In the end, the only thing Bush won't privatize will be the IRS.
Scout. Phew!


"jlrogers±³©" wrote
[snip]
First-We must have a dream that motivates us. No one has ever
achieved
anything without a dream attached to a burning desire.

Second-We must learn how-to-learn. In school, we learn how to
memorize or
be taught. Learning how to learn frees our dependency on others
for
knowledge.

Third-We must learn from failure and learn how to bounce back
from
failure. No one ever succeed without failure. In the classroom,
failure is a
no-no.























JG February 22nd 05 11:44 PM

Jun 26 2000:

And young girls of only eight years of age are growing
breasts and hips and nice firm little butts and are becoming
able to reproduce.

Some of them even want to practice the art with me, but I
tell them eight is too young. I find I must admonish them to
wait till they are at least 13. After all, a man must stick
to his principles.

Respectfully,
Capt. Neal


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:kiFSd.24641$NN.9486@edtnps89...
Wooooooooo..... that hit a nerve!

Gaynz probably has an order restricting him to remain at least 100 yards
from any children!

See Gaynz... that's your problem... you associate children with sex....
while the rest of us associate children as the result of sex.

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
In your parlance, that's a pedofile or a homosexual. So, I answered in
kind. It's none of your business how many children I've parented.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:SdtSd.21023$NN.19388@edtnps89...
I didn't ask you how many you diddled Ganz... I asked how many you had!

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
Unlike Neal, I'm not a pedofile.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:IsqSd.19585$NN.13986@edtnps89...
...and you have how many children again Jon???

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
No, it's the parents who must inspire the child. The teacher is
supposed to support the enthusiasm and open up even more pathways to
knowledge.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:ZylSd.17861$NN.13680@edtnps89...
If a teacher can't inspire the will to learn in their students.....
they have failed at their profession.
Damn it all... now I'm starting to consider that maybe my grade 9
education isn't sufficient.
Mind you it never seems to bother me when I'm directing an engineer
on how to his job.

CM


"Scout" wrote in message
...
Reading your story only emphasizes how tragic the educational
blunders of G.W.Bush truly are. In America's vocational high
schools, students much like you were, kids who've made a career out
of daydreaming instead of participating in the classroom
activities, are given a second chance to learn in a way that is not
at the bottom of Bloom's Taxonomy (rote). Vocational teachers look
beyond the corruption of a public school system that would use it's
technical annex as a dumping ground for the learning disabled, the
trouble makers, and in general, young malcontents.
We take what they consider to be trash, and we re-awaken them,
challenge them, polish them into productive, self-respecting gems.
For many of our students, the vo-tech allows them to get a high
school diploma AND real skills they can use. Our kids show their
genius every day.
Consider one welding student I know. For his senior project he
re-created a few blocks of Manhattan around ground-zero. He
fabricated all the buildings using stainless steel, except for the
twin towers, which he made using mild steel. The entire piece sits
under a spotlight in the school's front-yard. As we watch the
towers rust and disintegrate, we are reminded daily of the tragedy
of 911. People pull into our parking lot and stare contemplatively
at the project. It makes a person think. This kid took what he
learned about metals and welding techniques, and integrated that
with what he felt in his heart. The result is magnificent and deep.
And to think, this kid wanted to quit school because people like
our president told him he was a failure because he couldn't write a
flowery essay to describe his ideas!
Thanks to the Bush's standardized testing policies, traditional
high schools are sending swarms of kids who perform poorly on these
written tests to the full curriculum vo-techs, so their poor test
scores can cause the vo-techs to get Bush's public spanking instead
of the sending school. These tests don't acknowledge the genius of
the kid who is staring out the window and germinating the seeds of
a success that is not based on pedantic learning.
We have PhDs, engineers, nurses, and professionals from many walks
of life on staff, guiding these students and giving them new
motivation to learn fundamentals (show them why they need to know
math and science). When kids find a reason for abstract thinking,
they work harder to learn those skills as well.
And these are the schools that Bush wants to close. He calls our
kids "shoe makers" I believe. He is a fool! He has no clue what
level of technology our kids are achieving. From bio-technology to
CNC programming, from masonry to hvac to roofing, from engineering
to advertising, our kids are blossoming into productive
citizenship! What they're not doing is repairing shoes, what they
are doing is building smart robots, producing detailed
architectural drawings, and programming emission systems to improve
air quality and gas mileage.
Go ahead Bush, close the schools that are helping our challenging
but nonetheless brilliant kids. Send the money to Iraq so they can
have the things you want to deny American kids!
The only thing that scares me more than this jerk-off's ideas about
schools is the fact that he now wants to apply the same
"privatization" mentality to social security. That's really what
this is all about isn't it? Privatize everything so business in
America can do what it will with and to the American people.
Nothing personal, it's just business. That's why it's important
that Bush cause the collapse of public schools and then blame them
for it. If it all goes well, each family can find a way to pay for
the education of their kids. If they can't afford it, screw 'em.
It's important that social security be deemed a failure too; find a
way to retire without it all you civil servants!
In the end, the only thing Bush won't privatize will be the IRS.
Scout. Phew!


"jlrogers±³©" wrote
[snip]
First-We must have a dream that motivates us. No one has ever
achieved
anything without a dream attached to a burning desire.

Second-We must learn how-to-learn. In school, we learn how to
memorize or
be taught. Learning how to learn frees our dependency on others
for
knowledge.

Third-We must learn from failure and learn how to bounce back
from
failure. No one ever succeed without failure. In the classroom,
failure is a
no-no.



















Capt. Neal® February 22nd 05 11:48 PM


"Gaynzy" wrote:

And young boys of only eight years of age are growing
balls and hips and nice firm little butts and are becoming
able to have sex.

Some of them even want to practice the art with me, but I
tell them eight is too young. I find I must admonish them to
wait till they are at least 13. After all, a homo must stick
to his principles.

Respectfully,
Homo Gaynz



Scout February 23rd 05 12:09 AM

Famous last words.

"Horvath" wrote
I have no competition.





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