Oz,

I don't know of any place that rents these, and a quick search didn't
produce anything viable. I've never heard of any of the major rental
companies renting one of these. They are pretty good in ice/snow, but I'd
recommend something a bit more roomy anyway, and most of the rental
companies do have SUVs. (I don't recommend using chains unless you have no
other choice. The rental companies don't want you to use them, I doubt they
supply them, and putting them on is not a lot of fun if the weather turns
nasty. There are crews that do it for you, but they charge $30.

Enterprise is pretty good generally. You'll pay a bit more for a Hertz or
Avis car. I'll see if I can find something about Subarus tomorrow.

One thing to keep in mind is which highway you decide to take and when
you're planning on doing the driving. Highway 50 closes periodically (80 is
almost always open), and chains, 4x4 or not, they won't let you through. You
should definitely check the weather and traffic. I'd also suggest not trying
to get there on a Friday or leaving on a Sunday unless you leave really
early.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

OzOne wrote in message ...

Jon Ganz,
Do you know of any hire car joints in SF that rent Subaru Liberty,
Outback (or whatever you call it) or Forrester?

The trip to Tahoe will require an AWD or chains apparently and I've
been impressed with just how good the Subby system is in ice/snow.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

"JG" wrote

I The rental companies don't want you to use them, I doubt they
supply them, and putting them on is not a lot of fun if the weather
turns
nasty. There are crews that do it for you, but they charge $30.

Hoo boy, what a girlie man. I bet Ellen could put her own chains on.
But then she's more manly than you are. Cripes, Liberace was more
manly than you.

Scotty

Scott Vernon wrote:
"JG" wrote

I The rental companies don't want you to use them, I doubt they
supply them, and putting them on is not a lot of fun if the weather

turns

nasty. There are crews that do it for you, but they charge $30.


Hoo boy, what a girlie man. I bet Ellen could put her own chains on.
But then she's more manly than you are. Cripes, Liberace was more
manly than you.

I heard that this was more like a rental fee; crew on one side puts the chains on, up and over you go and on the other
side another crew takes them off?

Cheers
Marty

I know... hardly anyone complains about the $30 though. You main need chains
even on the highway. It just depends on the weather.

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:53:49 -0800, "JG"
scribbled thusly:
$30...that's highway robbery...I pay $10 here
Apparently the loop road that we'll be staying on gets snowed and we
may need chains..I'll need to double check this as I've been dudded
before when some hopeless driver has told me chains were a must and
the roads stayed easy even after heavy falls.

89 closes regularly. I wouldn't rely on it. Sometimes, it's wide open... you
place your bets, you takes your chances. :-)

Yep, I'd heard about the changeover.
We're booked Saturday to Saturday so that shouldn't be more of a
problem than usual.
Hopefully 50 will be clear so we don't need to go right up to the top
of the lake and cone back down to Stateline.
Would 89 from Inikee on 80 down to Tahoe City be open or would I need
to go to Reno then down?

If you do decide to do LA first and you have some time, check out the Body
Worlds exhibit if you possibly can. I saw it a few weeks ago... flew down
there just for it.... ok for kids too....

http://www.koerperwelten.de/en/pages/home.asp

Of course Monterey is always worth a stop.

I'll do some checking this morning and see what I can find.

J

We're now considering flying into SF instead of LA and staying at
Marina on Monterey Bay for a few days to look around.

Thanks for the help Jon.
Much easier if you have someone who is familiar with the area.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Yep... they're very good at their job... takes a couple of minutes and
you're done. A real assembly line. I haven't used them in years, as I have a
Jeep.

Scotti Potti is jealous because he doesn't have a spare $30.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Scott Vernon wrote:
"JG" wrote

I The rental companies don't want you to use them, I doubt they
supply them, and putting them on is not a lot of fun if the weather

turns

nasty. There are crews that do it for you, but they charge $30.


Hoo boy, what a girlie man. I bet Ellen could put her own chains on.
But then she's more manly than you are. Cripes, Liberace was more
manly than you.

I heard that this was more like a rental fee; crew on one side puts the
chains on, up and over you go and on the other
side another crew takes them off?

Cheers
Marty

Hey Oz... I found one company that has either the Outback or the Forester.
Hertz. They couldn't give me the exact rates because I don't know the exact
dates. The approximate rate from the SF Airport is $390 with unlimited
miles.

So far all the others either claim that they "might have it" but couldn't
tell me or "can't guarantee a particular make or model."


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:53:49 -0800, "JG"
scribbled thusly:

Oz,

I don't know of any place that rents these, and a quick search didn't
produce anything viable. I've never heard of any of the major rental
companies renting one of these. They are pretty good in ice/snow, but I'd
recommend something a bit more roomy anyway, and most of the rental
companies do have SUVs. (I don't recommend using chains unless you have no
other choice. The rental companies don't want you to use them, I doubt
they
supply them, and putting them on is not a lot of fun if the weather turns
nasty. There are crews that do it for you, but they charge $30.

$30...that's highway robbery...I pay $10 here
Apparently the loop road that we'll be staying on gets snowed and we
may need chains..I'll need to double check this as I've been dudded
before when some hopeless driver has told me chains were a must and
the roads stayed easy even after heavy falls.

I'll look at the hire companies and see what I can get whatever.

Enterprise is pretty good generally. You'll pay a bit more for a Hertz or
Avis car. I'll see if I can find something about Subarus tomorrow.

That'd be great.
I own a Liberty in NZ and it's never let me down on what is regarded
as a pretty treacherous road on Mt Hotham.

One thing to keep in mind is which highway you decide to take and when
you're planning on doing the driving. Highway 50 closes periodically (80
is
almost always open), and chains, 4x4 or not, they won't let you through.
You
should definitely check the weather and traffic. I'd also suggest not
trying
to get there on a Friday or leaving on a Sunday unless you leave really
early.

Yep, I'd heard about the changeover.
We're booked Saturday to Saturday so that shouldn't be more of a
problem than usual.
Hopefully 50 will be clear so we don't need to go right up to the top
of the lake and cone back down to Stateline.
Would 89 from Inikee on 80 down to Tahoe City be open or would I need
to go to Reno then down?

We're now considering flying into SF instead of LA and staying at
Marina on Monterey Bay for a few days to look around.

Thanks for the help Jon.
Much easier if you have someone who is familiar with the area.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Also... I don't have your email address. If you need some coordination to
make the rental happen, drop me a line.

I called Enterprise. They don't rent Subarus (said they wished that they
did). They're willing to rent you a Ford Explorer for $350 for the week.
Normally, they go for $90/day or $70/day for a week, but the woman I talked
to said she would do it for $50/day for a week.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:53:49 -0800, "JG"
scribbled thusly:

Oz,

I don't know of any place that rents these, and a quick search didn't
produce anything viable. I've never heard of any of the major rental
companies renting one of these. They are pretty good in ice/snow, but I'd
recommend something a bit more roomy anyway, and most of the rental
companies do have SUVs. (I don't recommend using chains unless you have no
other choice. The rental companies don't want you to use them, I doubt
they
supply them, and putting them on is not a lot of fun if the weather turns
nasty. There are crews that do it for you, but they charge $30.

$30...that's highway robbery...I pay $10 here
Apparently the loop road that we'll be staying on gets snowed and we
may need chains..I'll need to double check this as I've been dudded
before when some hopeless driver has told me chains were a must and
the roads stayed easy even after heavy falls.

I'll look at the hire companies and see what I can get whatever.

Enterprise is pretty good generally. You'll pay a bit more for a Hertz or
Avis car. I'll see if I can find something about Subarus tomorrow.

That'd be great.
I own a Liberty in NZ and it's never let me down on what is regarded
as a pretty treacherous road on Mt Hotham.

One thing to keep in mind is which highway you decide to take and when
you're planning on doing the driving. Highway 50 closes periodically (80
is
almost always open), and chains, 4x4 or not, they won't let you through.
You
should definitely check the weather and traffic. I'd also suggest not
trying
to get there on a Friday or leaving on a Sunday unless you leave really
early.

Yep, I'd heard about the changeover.
We're booked Saturday to Saturday so that shouldn't be more of a
problem than usual.
Hopefully 50 will be clear so we don't need to go right up to the top
of the lake and cone back down to Stateline.
Would 89 from Inikee on 80 down to Tahoe City be open or would I need
to go to Reno then down?

We're now considering flying into SF instead of LA and staying at
Marina on Monterey Bay for a few days to look around.

Thanks for the help Jon.
Much easier if you have someone who is familiar with the area.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

"JG" wrote in message

Oz,

I don't know of any place that rents these, and a quick search didn't
produce anything viable. I've never heard of any of the major rental
companies renting one of these. They are pretty good in ice/snow, but I'd
recommend something a bit more roomy anyway, and most of the rental
companies do have SUVs. (I don't recommend using chains unless you have no
other choice. The rental companies don't want you to use them, I doubt
they supply them, and putting them on is not a lot of fun if the weather
turns nasty. There are crews that do it for you, but they charge $30.

Enterprise is pretty good generally. You'll pay a bit more for a Hertz or
Avis car. I'll see if I can find something about Subarus tomorrow.

One thing to keep in mind is which highway you decide to take and when
you're planning on doing the driving. Highway 50 closes periodically (80
is almost always open), and chains, 4x4 or not, they won't let you
through. You should definitely check the weather and traffic. I'd also
suggest not trying to get there on a Friday or leaving on a Sunday unless
you leave really early.

You'd need to give the rental agencies--the local offices--a call, Jon.
When we last rented from Enterprise, we were surprised to arrive at the
office and discover Audis, Mercedes, and other upscale cars for rent. None
of them appear in their ads on the Web. Each office apparently has a number
of non-standard cars.

Max

OzOne wrote in message


...that's highway robbery...

Is that a pun?

Max

Why would you ask our resident gay about renting a car in SF? Are you a
racialist? Gaynzy doesn't live in SF, just ask him.

And, please, take it to email. This thread is even more boring than the
usual threads you start, although it is your right to post such drivel as
your brave fighting men have made the world safe for usenet!

Lonny


OzOne wrote in message ...

Jon Ganz,
Do you know of any hire car joints in SF that rent Subaru Liberty,
Outback (or whatever you call it) or Forrester?

The trip to Tahoe will require an AWD or chains apparently and I've
been impressed with just how good the Subby system is in ice/snow.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.