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Capt. Neal® February 8th 05 01:52 AM

And poor Wally can't follow a thread. I realize the report of Ellen's failure
is a year old but what it does is give the record of the fastest person to
sail around the world and it is NOT little Ellen like Donal claimed.

Had he claimed little dyke Ellen is the fastest person to single-hand
around the world he would have been correct but he didn't so he
wasn't and neither are you, you little weenie!

CN


"Wally" wrote in message k...
Capt. Neal® wrote:

Updated 24 February 2003, 13.12


Poor Donal - wrong again.


Poor Neal - a self-proclaimed 'Master Mariner' who can't operate a simple
chronometer.

Bwahahahaha!!!


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Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk




katysails February 8th 05 02:23 AM

A person is solo, dolt...
Some people is more than one...

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Donal wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Wrong


Yup!!! Wrong ..... sooo wrong that I don't think that he'll have

the
courage to post here ever again.

Jonathan will be very pleased.



Regards


Donal



Yelp wrong. If you had said fastest SOLO sailor around the world then
indeed you would have been correct.

Joe
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Capt. Neal® February 8th 05 04:13 AM

This is a serious discussion. We don't need comments from the
Peanut Gallery or the learning disabled.

CN


"katysails" wrote in message ...
A person is solo, dolt...
Some people is more than one...

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Donal wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Wrong

Yup!!! Wrong ..... sooo wrong that I don't think that he'll have

the
courage to post here ever again.

Jonathan will be very pleased.



Regards


Donal



Yelp wrong. If you had said fastest SOLO sailor around the world then
indeed you would have been correct.

Joe
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JG February 8th 05 04:17 AM

Joey no speak English goodly.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"katysails" wrote in message
...
A person is solo, dolt...
Some people is more than one...

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Donal wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Wrong

Yup!!! Wrong ..... sooo wrong that I don't think that he'll have

the
courage to post here ever again.

Jonathan will be very pleased.



Regards


Donal



Yelp wrong. If you had said fastest SOLO sailor around the world then
indeed you would have been correct.

Joe
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Joe February 8th 05 02:24 PM


katysails wrote:
A person is solo, dolt...
Some people is more than one...



A person rode on a crewed boat around the world faster than Ellen did.

Got it Dolt?

Ellen is not the fastest person to sail around the world.
Ellen is the fastest person to sail solo around the world Katy.

Big Difference dunce.

Joe






"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Donal wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Wrong

Yup!!! Wrong ..... sooo wrong that I don't think that he'll have

the
courage to post here ever again.

Jonathan will be very pleased.



Regards


Donal



Yelp wrong. If you had said fastest SOLO sailor around the world

then
indeed you would have been correct.

Joe
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Jeff Morris February 8th 05 04:48 PM

Actually, we don't know how fast Ellen is, we only know how fast her
boat was for the last 71 days. Dodge Morgan sailed around the world
slower, but he may be a faster person!


Joe wrote:
katysails wrote:

A person is solo, dolt...
Some people is more than one...




A person rode on a crewed boat around the world faster than Ellen did.

Got it Dolt?

Ellen is not the fastest person to sail around the world.
Ellen is the fastest person to sail solo around the world Katy.

Big Difference dunce.

Joe






"Joe" wrote in message
groups.com...

Donal wrote:

"Joe" wrote in message
legroups.com...

Wrong

Yup!!! Wrong ..... sooo wrong that I don't think that he'll have

the

courage to post here ever again.

Jonathan will be very pleased.



Regards


Donal


Yelp wrong. If you had said fastest SOLO sailor around the world


then

indeed you would have been correct.

Joe

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Jeff Morris February 8th 05 06:38 PM

Wrong, Putz. There's nothing in the rule that says you only need to
keep watch while underway. Perhaps you're claiming that your boat does
not qualify as a "vessel"?


Capt. Neal® wrote:
Jeff,

If you weren't such a first class idiot you would read the Rules
and note that Rule 5 comes under the heading of Steering and Sailing
Rules.

What don't you understand about:

Part B - Steering and Sailing Rules

A vessel anchored or moored is not underway so neither is it steering
nor is it sailing by defintion.

3(i) The word "underway" means a vessel is not at anchor, or made fast
to the shore, or aground.

I hope this helps.

CN

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...

So are you claiming that you stay up all night maintaining a proper
watch? Being on a mooring does not relieve you of the responsibility
of obeying Rule 5.


Capt. Neal® wrote:


"Donal" wrote in message
...

Ellen has just become the fastest person to sail around the world!!!




I disagree. I would say more accurately that Little Ellen has become
the latest criminal to sail around the world. She's no sailor or she
would not knowingly violate Rule 5 of the COLREGS.

In any other sport if a competitor broke the laws that governed
his or her sport do you think they would be allowed to keep any
record.
Just imagine if an Olympic athlete failed his drug test. His record
would be taken away. Just think if a NASCAR driver ignored the
yellow flag and passed his way into first place under the yellow,
he would be disqualified.

Why is it all you fools rejoice when some little dyke violates
the COLREGS. She has no record in my opinion unless and until
she operates legally.


CN




Capt. Neal® February 8th 05 07:08 PM

Your wrong!

Whereas, the section of the Rules under which Rule 5 occurs
is Section B which is Steering and Sailing Rules,

And, whereas, any vessel that is anchored or made fast to the shore
is not steering or sailing by definition. (look at the definition of
'under way' in the Rules)

It follows, Rule five does not apply to anchored, docked, or moored
vessels.

Simple logic and irrefutable because of it.


CN




"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ...
Wrong, Putz. There's nothing in the rule that says you only need to keep watch while underway. Perhaps you're claiming that your
boat does not qualify as a "vessel"?


Capt. Neal® wrote:
Jeff,

If you weren't such a first class idiot you would read the Rules
and note that Rule 5 comes under the heading of Steering and Sailing
Rules.

What don't you understand about:

Part B - Steering and Sailing Rules

A vessel anchored or moored is not underway so neither is it steering nor is it sailing by defintion.

3(i) The word "underway" means a vessel is not at anchor, or made fast to the shore, or aground.

I hope this helps.

CN

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ...

So are you claiming that you stay up all night maintaining a proper watch? Being on a mooring does not relieve you of the
responsibility of obeying Rule 5.


Capt. Neal® wrote:


"Donal" wrote in message ...

Ellen has just become the fastest person to sail around the world!!!




I disagree. I would say more accurately that Little Ellen has become
the latest criminal to sail around the world. She's no sailor or she
would not knowingly violate Rule 5 of the COLREGS.

In any other sport if a competitor broke the laws that governed
his or her sport do you think they would be allowed to keep any
record.
Just imagine if an Olympic athlete failed his drug test. His record
would be taken away. Just think if a NASCAR driver ignored the
yellow flag and passed his way into first place under the yellow,
he would be disqualified.

Why is it all you fools rejoice when some little dyke violates
the COLREGS. She has no record in my opinion unless and until
she operates legally.


CN



Jeff Morris February 8th 05 08:10 PM

Nice try Neal. You always try to win argument with with you call
"simple logic." The simple truth is that had they intended what you
claim, they easily could have added that Section B applies to "Vessels
underway," but they didn't. You must be aware that there are a number
of cases where an anchored vessel was held liable for not maintaining a
lookout.


Capt. Neal® wrote:
Your wrong!

Whereas, the section of the Rules under which Rule 5 occurs
is Section B which is Steering and Sailing Rules,

And, whereas, any vessel that is anchored or made fast to the shore
is not steering or sailing by definition. (look at the definition of
'under way' in the Rules)

It follows, Rule five does not apply to anchored, docked, or moored
vessels.

Simple logic and irrefutable because of it.


CN




"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...

Wrong, Putz. There's nothing in the rule that says you only need to
keep watch while underway. Perhaps you're claiming that your boat
does not qualify as a "vessel"?


Capt. Neal® wrote:

Jeff,

If you weren't such a first class idiot you would read the Rules
and note that Rule 5 comes under the heading of Steering and Sailing
Rules.

What don't you understand about:

Part B - Steering and Sailing Rules

A vessel anchored or moored is not underway so neither is it steering
nor is it sailing by defintion.

3(i) The word "underway" means a vessel is not at anchor, or made
fast to the shore, or aground.

I hope this helps.

CN

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...

So are you claiming that you stay up all night maintaining a proper
watch? Being on a mooring does not relieve you of the
responsibility of obeying Rule 5.


Capt. Neal® wrote:


"Donal" wrote in message
...

Ellen has just become the fastest person to sail around the world!!!





I disagree. I would say more accurately that Little Ellen has become
the latest criminal to sail around the world. She's no sailor or she
would not knowingly violate Rule 5 of the COLREGS.

In any other sport if a competitor broke the laws that governed
his or her sport do you think they would be allowed to keep any
record.
Just imagine if an Olympic athlete failed his drug test. His record
would be taken away. Just think if a NASCAR driver ignored the
yellow flag and passed his way into first place under the yellow,
he would be disqualified.

Why is it all you fools rejoice when some little dyke violates
the COLREGS. She has no record in my opinion unless and until
she operates legally.


CN



Donal February 9th 05 01:22 AM


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

Had he claimed little dyke Ellen is the fastest person to single-hand
around the world he would have been correct but he didn't so he
wasn't and neither are you, you little weenie!


I'm pleased to see that you admit that Ellen is the fastest person to sail
single-handed around the world.

I suspect that the source of your irritation is that Americans have never
achieved much in *real* sailing.

You only do well in competitions where the skipper can sleep in a hotel room
every night - backed by enormous quantities of sponsers' dollars!

I'm not surprised that you consider yourself to be a real sailor.... when
you only compare yourself with Joe and Jeff. I won't insult you by
suggesting that you compare yourself with Max, Jon,BB or Bob.



Regards


Donal
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