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"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... I hate to admit it but Jonathan is right and Mooron is wrong. There is a 'solar wind.' It consists of charged particles and it is strong enough to make it all the way to the heliopause. These charged particles bouncing off the solar sails impart small forces in the direction away from the sun and the sails are propelled away at very high velocities though the acceleration is rather uninspiring. Calling a recurring wave of charged particles a "Wind"..... well it's cute and all... but Ganz and Ozone think it's a breeze and you can set your sails to the wind! CM |
Neither of them is that stupid. I'm sure they realize the limitations
of solar wind sailing. But, the funny thing is by using the gravity fields of various objects in the solar system, solar sails can and probably eventually will be able to 'sail' towards the sun. CN "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:L6gNd.14401$tU6.2456@edtnps91... "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... I hate to admit it but Jonathan is right and Mooron is wrong. There is a 'solar wind.' It consists of charged particles and it is strong enough to make it all the way to the heliopause. These charged particles bouncing off the solar sails impart small forces in the direction away from the sun and the sails are propelled away at very high velocities though the acceleration is rather uninspiring. Calling a recurring wave of charged particles a "Wind"..... well it's cute and all... but Ganz and Ozone think it's a breeze and you can set your sails to the wind! CM |
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Be a man. Admit your foolish error. Further Ganz bashing only demonstrates your frustration - not your manliness. Stand Down.... I've made no error! If I recall correctly you were alluding to tacking through a Solar Wind... which would outline your proficiency in the subject you've only recently researched by utilizing Ganz's links! Here let me quote you brainiac.. Bwaahahhahahahahahhahhahha. That solar sail will work but only downwind or crosswind. It will never be able to go upwind. It is against the known laws of physics for a sailboat to sail directly into the wind and it's the same for solar sails Cross Wind????? ... on a photon wave?? Solar Wind..... Pffft! ......and since when are you placing limits to tormenting Ganz? CM |
"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:HegNd.14405$tU6.444@edtnps91... .....and since when are you placing limits to tormenting Ganz? CM A manly man will support even a dweeb like Jon when he is right. It happens so rarely that it takes no real effort at all . . . CN |
"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:HegNd.14405$tU6.444@edtnps91... Stand Down.... I've made no error! You made a HUGE error! All the ranting and raving in the world won't change that fact. If I recall correctly you were alluding to tacking through a Solar Wind... which would outline your proficiency in the subject you've only recently researched by utilizing Ganz's links! Here let me quote you brainiac.. Bwaahahhahahahahahhahhahha. That solar sail will work but only downwind or crosswind. It will never be able to go upwind. It is against the known laws of physics for a sailboat to sail directly into the wind and it's the same for solar sails Cross Wind????? ... on a photon wave?? Solar Wind..... Pffft! I stand by my statements. A solar sail cannot go anywhere but downwind. It can use gravity assist from various bodies in space to go sideways to the solar wind and even directly upwind in which case the sails would have to be furled or turned edge on to the solar wind. The velocity a solar sail attains from going downwind can be used to allow it to travel in any direction provided it has an intelligent program using planetary mechanics. And, I still have not visited a single ganz link on this subject. I have bookmarked a couple of space sites and I read them regularly. This is why I know it all. CN |
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Poor Mooron, there is no greater humiliation than to lose to Jonathan! I've lost nothing... I've made no claims..... I only posted insults and innuendo. You on the other hand seem to have lost your dignity! You lumbered in on a subject you were ill informed on and made outlandish claims... agreeing with Ganz that a Solar Wind was equivalent to an ocean breeze! Ganz posted URLs that only served to prove he didn't have a clue about the subject.... and now you've decided to compound that by siding with Ganz in the Loser's Box! Way to go there .... those books on the language of women really have had an effect... you now know how to communicate with Ganz! CM |
"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:TCgNd.14413$tU6.82@edtnps91... "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Poor Mooron, there is no greater humiliation than to lose to Jonathan! I've lost nothing... I've made no claims..... I only posted insults and innuendo. You on the other hand seem to have lost your dignity! You lumbered in on a subject you were ill informed on and made outlandish claims... agreeing with Ganz that a Solar Wind was equivalent to an ocean breeze! Ganz posted URLs that only served to prove he didn't have a clue about the subject.... and now you've decided to compound that by siding with Ganz in the Loser's Box! Way to go there .... those books on the language of women really have had an effect... you now know how to communicate with Ganz! CM You cracked me up with that last statement. roflmbfao I guess you've noticed how, even when one is defending Jon, it's really insulting to him. CN CN |
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message I stand by my statements. A solar sail cannot go anywhere but downwind. It can use gravity assist from various bodies in space to go sideways to the solar wind and even directly upwind in which case the sails would have to be furled or turned edge on to the solar wind. The velocity a solar sail attains from going downwind can be used to allow it to travel in any direction provided it has an intelligent program using planetary mechanics. Oh cripes... that's not what you said... here's what you said Einstein! That solar sail will work but only downwind or crosswind. And, I still have not visited a single ganz link on this subject. Yes you have..... I have bookmarked a couple of space sites and I read them regularly. If you did... you'd know how stupid your original statement was! This is why I know it all. Bwahahahahahahaaa.... Really Space Cadet?.... then kindly explain how you'd set your solar sails for a beam reach on a solar wind despite the radial pattern of dispersion. Then since you know it all..... explain the description of photon waves as a "wind".... CM |
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message I guess you've noticed how, even when one is defending Jon, it's really insulting to him. Jon is his own worst enemy..... Frankly I'm elated you decided to jump in ... at least I was forced to engage brain cell activity! I even managed to get Ozone to jump in ... but I think he caught on as to where I was going with this and bailed! :-) CM |
Neal can't set any sails to any wind.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:L6gNd.14401$tU6.2456@edtnps91... "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... I hate to admit it but Jonathan is right and Mooron is wrong. There is a 'solar wind.' It consists of charged particles and it is strong enough to make it all the way to the heliopause. These charged particles bouncing off the solar sails impart small forces in the direction away from the sun and the sails are propelled away at very high velocities though the acceleration is rather uninspiring. Calling a recurring wave of charged particles a "Wind"..... well it's cute and all... but Ganz and Ozone think it's a breeze and you can set your sails to the wind! CM |
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